Do you think dealers are inherently “bad” people?

[frogluvr]

I recently saw a similar discussion online and I’m curious about you guys thoughts on this subject ^^

I think dealers are usually demonized and seen as evil or bad people, especially by non drug users. Imo It’s much more of a moral grey zone and I’ve met a lot of genuinely kind and caring people that are actively dealing or have in the past.

I remember my old plug would always ask me how I was doing in school, how I was, always complimented me and called me sweetheart when I’d get in his car etc. - genuinely a nice guy imo, still kinda miss him sometimes ^^

I think it’s quite easy to get emotionally attached to a dealer because of the lonelines/isolation that’s often accompanies the addiction. A few caring words can truly make a difference when you’re struggling and they don’t judge u for using like most people tend to do.

On the other hand they’re still actively sustaining the addiction that’s slowly killing you, which ofc makes the question a lot more complicated.

Anyways looking forward to u guys replies :>

 

[papercuts]

Interesting question, but I think most of us here won't judge the person selling any more than they judge us as the buyer, it's just not part of the equation. While I've known dealers who look physically formidable, I've never felt intimidated, but you wouldn't would you? You're both in agreement over what you're doing. Have I ever got close? Well, yes, the guy I lived with immediately before my husband drove a taxi and sold from that, so, yes, I did indeed get attached and fall in love.

 

[placebonaut]

as with all professions they are a slice of society, the good, the bad, the idealistic, the desperate.

don't tar them all with the same brush, there are plenty of nice ones about, however it's a sad fact that drug users have a higher proportion of issues than non-drug users, and dealers have a higher likelihood of drug problems driven by those same issues themselves, you end up with the "cream of the crop" in your average drug dealer.

but they're people just like average joe public.

generational trauma, poverty, abuse, mental health issues, addiction, greed, easy money, hippies spreading the love, there are lots of drivers for why people end up dealing. maybe that doesn't make them inherently bad per se, it might make them more likely to do bad things though, but that's more to do with the situation that made them a dealer in the 1st place.

The other category worth mentioning is the "professional dealer", quality, reputation, standards, which are all good for the users, though this is imho more likely to be an OCG - though if they keep the nasty stuff directed at other OCGs then it's less an issue, but they're very capable of doing bad things...this is the compromise we make where there's no legal alternative

 

[Gridlink]

The notion that dealers are inherently bad people is of course bullshit as most people using this site already know. Generally I would say most professional dealers I have dealt with were/are good people. And some of the best people I have known, in 2 or 3 cases, happened to be dealers. It's the users who tend to be the most desperate and who end up doing shitty things to people to fund their habit, and that is just a product of capitalistic economics where the product is expensive (because it's illegal).

Someone earlier said something to the effect that dealers are "still actively sustaining the addiction that is killing you" no matter how good they are as people. But I see two problems with that line of thought. 1) it always takes a drug addict to sustain an addiction, but not necessarily a dealer. And more importantly 2} generally it is the illegality of drugs that causes the negative consequences of use, and not the drugs themselves. I guess what I am saying is that it is short sighted to blame dealers for problems that actually stem from flawed drug policy.

It would make more sense to discuss whether policymakers and people with vested financial interests in current drug policy are "bad" people, when you think about it.

 

[spypilot]

i feel like it depends on what they push and if theyre aware of what will happen to those who buy

 

[placebonaut]

i feel like it depends on what they push and if theyre aware of what will happen to those who buy

they will push what is in demand and are fully aware of what will happen to those that buy, they see the worst of it.

agree with @Gridlink to a degree, the user is the only person who is ultimately responsible, the dealer is an enabler, a pusher is something different, a user can have reasons for not being responsible - little snakey get's to eat it's own tail