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Do you still have a conscience?

I think it really has to do with which drugs you do...

The ones that effect the conscience mostly, I would say, are the ones that directly effect dopamine/endorphin and are subject to easy repeated use.

In other words Speed, coke, alcohol, and opiates... Seeing that dopamine is responsible for learning and pleasure, it would make sense that a conscience could be altered by influx/reduction of dopamine.. One lacking in dopamine will be feeling shitty, resulting in a self centered view, while also unable to see the consequences of actions, do to dopamines role in insight... For this reason, I think these are called "hard drugs".

Ive also found that those who periodically use serotonin boosting drugs(MDMA, LSD, mushrooms, pot) tend to have more of an understanding personality.. Hence a greater conscience... Even those who abuse them, tend to end up depressed, yet conscience seems to remain intact..
 
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i disagree. while those chemicals do affect dopamine there are many other neurotransmitters at play. I was under the impression that mdma also released dopamine. I think the chemical responsible for not giving a shit is norapinepherine IMO.

Most people i know who really dont give a shit about anyone never did in the first place, they failed to learn, grow-up etc, or werent taught right or wrong by their parents. Also, most ppl who steal have always stole, the difference is they have found something else to spend their ill gotten money on and the fact that most "fences" (go betweens) are dealers too.

I know many ppl who take opiates and have had habits for years but have a conscience and respect for others. I know many ppl who have never taken drugs and couldnt give a fuck about anyone but themselves.

How many of those serial killers were drug addicts?

i agree that they can blunt your emotions somewhat but thats not quite the same as blunting your empathy.
 
let your conscience be your guide

Yea I think I still have a conscience but after all the drugs I have taken it seams to be dwindling away as I have contimplated stealing from my parents for drug money. I wonder if my innate values have been forgotton by all the drug use, honestly it makes me sad I even contimplate this ideas I dont want to end up another street junkie stealing anything he/she can find for their next fix. (I dont this will ever happen but it does worry me!)

----emagdnim--mindgame----
 
serial killer / drug link

Definitely the way drugs alter our brain chemistry affects our emotions. I've seen a lot of ppl fucked up on crank and coke and opiates. Ppl on opiates maintain well as long as their supply never dwindles. They can lead relatively "normal" lives, and more ppl than you'd believe are opiate addicts. But the amphetamine and coke users all seem to just become emotional voids after awhile, even when there's a shitload around for consumption. It seems to just blunt their emotions to the point that they feel nothing but the drug.

As far as serial killers and drug abuse links, Bundy was a user of both coke and pot, and liked to drink Chablis. He was loaded during many of the murders. Danny Rollings was a dopehead. Dahmer wasn't. Neither was Gacy. The Nightstalker was always loaded and incorporated dope into his satanic rituals. I don't think you have to use drugs to be a serial killer, but i imagine they'd help. Who wouldn't want to escape from the horror inside of a mind like that?
 
i know i have a conscience and it seems i have more of it after my drug use cuz you see everythin from such a broad point of view. and it has to be a complete lie to say that you have no conscience because that's just impossible. you just seem a tad bit indifferent and bitter :\
 
What exactly is a conscience? A moral set of rights and wrongs? Having a personality? Caring for others?
Pharcyde, you do have a "conscience," whatever that may mean. And that conscience of yours tells you to do whatever the hell you can do to make yourself happy. Just because you don't care about the feelings of others doesn't mean you don't have a conscience. Yours just might hold different values over others.
 
ok buddy wait untill your conscience comes back from vacation and beats the living shit out of u then u can tell me its a good thing.

what im saying is what goes around comes around,no matter what u say its just gonna happen either on your own guilt of your energy will just turn into a pile of shit.and noone will like,they wont even kno y,but its because you as a person will be so degraded and yiour soul will be so filthy will sin that u wont kno what hit u.it always happens after its to late.

im just telling u this from experience,i used to be the master theif.having no guilt because i didnt give a fuck about anything but my own wealth.i would steal at every occasion.i actually got so good at lying because i could actually make myself beleive what i was saying is true and not have a hint of lying.i was conscience of all this of course but i just pushed it to the back of my head.untill the crap had pilled up so much that there was more sinister than good little kid and i became a bad person who doesnt give a fuck about anyone.

im a bad person:D
 
hmm.. i dunno.. after killing pharcyde and chopping him into tiny bits with an electric turkey-carver, i thought i'd feel bad.. but i think maybe televised violence and video games have rendered me immune..

maybe if i'd say, poured droplets of acid into his eyeballs before fatally twisting his windpipe like an indian rubberburn, thereby snuffing out his lifeforce, i'd have felt some pangs of conscience or remorse.. oh, well, guess i'll never know.. there's always next time... cheers.
 
I was educated about conscience in rehab and they actually break it down to the science aspect of concience.

Picture your brain as a circle in a circle in a circle.etc Now the center circle is the conscience. When you use most drugs your depleting chemicals in the brain. Norepinepherine is depleted which lubercates neurons and the synapse so signals can get around the brain. When its used up or scarce, scar tissue will develop in the synapse causing signals not to reach or not reach in time (re-routing) so your conscience is actually disabled due to the lack of chemicals that help carry the message of "hey this is wrong!".
I believe this theory , actually its a fact that this can happen from most drugs (norepinepherine loss) . Most people think of dopamine and seurotonin loss from drug use. (btw they too, control mood and thought and logic.)
 
The point is that stealing and doing things for drugs is wrong but its almost a mental disability when your conscience is blocked out.(which does exist in the brain)

So don't be so eager to put someone down who did fucked up things for drugs. If your using, then this process could slowly be happening to you as well.
 
u kno i actually think that i had less of a "stop dont do this its wrong" conscinece before i started smoking pot then i just got paranoid when i did bad things simply cuz i might get caught.

i dont have a conscience telling me things are bad i have more of a conscience telling me the consequenses of gteting caught.

but im still a bad person:D
 
I have... to much of a conscience. I can't steal. I can't be mean to people or i'll feel too bad. I don't lie unless it's to spare someones feelings or an attempt to make them feel better. It sounds good and all but sometimes it just doesn't work out to be so god damn nice..
 
Is it considered a conscience when I want everybody to follow my lead in acquiring true happiness via means of manipulation and anything else that's required to get the job done?
 
mashead testing said:
I have more of one now than I ever had before I did drugs, I try not to do anything wrong to anyone as I dont see any point in giving others feelings of pain.
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Wow, didn't think there was any people left like that anymore.
 
yea dude. I dont do any hard drugs and i dont steal or shoplift or nothing like that. And i always consider what other people

Note: This reply is not ban-worthy, but this is the known troll CaptainMorgan420, 420Austin316, Hitman, etc. You have been given a 2nd chance, and a 3rd chance - enough is enough.
-BA
 
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LOL!!!

i didnt kno they could track down your last baned profile....

but anyways, is your guys conscience telling u its wrong with the little devil and the little angel.

or is it like mine when the only thing my conscience tells me are the consequences of getting caught or the result of what i do?
 
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