flabberghost
Bluelighter
Okay then what?
Sorry for being dismissive.
This discussion appears to have been reduced to: “Prove the unprovable” , and, “If I can’t see it, then it doesn’t exist!”
I really can’t help you with those positions, you need to be willing to move out of them, before you can.
“Here, pick a card... any card... no, not that card, the card that I want you to pick... “
So, you picked a Jack of -____ anyway, didn’t you?
See? You don’t believe in cards either!
Now, I don’t want to play with you.