Opioids Do people actually like methadone recreationally?

[kongoman]

Keep in mind that methadone is different in that it has a very long half-life. Withdrawal lasts an incredibly long time but it's nowhere near as intense as with other opioids. It's still extremely unpleasant, yes, but not totally debilitating.

I dont know what you mean... I know methodone long half-life. I take methadone since 2004. Im at 60mg and I discovered that I can take 120mg every other day. So for me if i double the dose it lasts 48h and I get high the first 12 hours.

 

[Señor Moreno]

Yeah,I would rather get hit/shot nonfatally (get a morphine syrrete/shot as a bonus) then go trough hard withdrawals cold damn turkey and the Post acute withdrawal syndrome anxiety etc etc etc.

Im sorry but I dont understand. Im spanish and dont know what you mean

Creo que se refiere a que está de acuerdo, que prefiere que le disparen o le peguen y lo manden al hospital antes de comerse un monazo a pelo

I think that he agrees with you, he prefers to undergo getting hit or shot with a gun and to be sent to hospital rather than endure a cold turkey wd.

Keep in mind that methadone is different in that it has a very long half-life. Withdrawal lasts an incredibly long time but it's nowhere near as intense as with other opioids. It's still extremely unpleasant, yes, but not totally debilitating.

I dont know what you mean... I know methodone long half-life. I take methadone since 2004. Im at 60mg and I discovered that I can take 120mg every other day. So for me if i double the dose it lasts 48h and I get high the first 12 hours.

Si entiendo bien se refiere a que un mono de metadona, aunque dura mogollón, no es tan intenso como uno de caballo o morfina. Que estar 50 días de mono de meta no es como estar 50 días de mono de caballo, por eso alguna gente prefiere comérselo a pelo y estar muy mal dos meses antes que reducir y estar mal un año o más.
If I took it correctly, @jasperkent said that even when a mdone wd is superlong it isn't as brutal as a h wd, like being into a 50 days methadone wd can't be compared to 50 days of h wd, that's why some people choose to be really bad two months of cold turkey rather than tapering and being bad for a year.

I don't know, but, while I understand how long and unconfortable a tapering process is, I still can't cope with the idea of a cold Turkey being better

 

[kongoman]

Creo que se refiere a que está de acuerdo, que prefiere que le disparen o le peguen y lo manden al hospital antes de comerse un monazo a pelo

I think that he agrees with you, he prefers to undergo getting hit or shot with a gun and to be sent to hospital rather than endure a cold turkey wd.







Si entiendo bien se refiere a que un mono de metadona, aunque dura mogollón, no es tan intenso como uno de caballo o morfina. Que estar 50 días de mono de meta no es como estar 50 días de mono de caballo, por eso alguna gente prefiere comérselo a pelo y estar muy mal dos meses antes que reducir y estar mal un año o más.
If I took it correctly, @jasperkent said that even when a mdone wd is superlong it isn't as brutal as a h wd, like being into a 50 days methadone wd can't be compared to 50 days of h wd, that's why some people choose to be really bad two months of cold turkey rather than tapering and being bad for a year.

I don't know, but, while I understand how long and unconfortable a tapering process is, I still can't cope with the idea of a cold Turkey being better

If you tapper slowly you dont feel unconfortable at all. I did it a couple of times, so I dont see any advantages of cold turkey.

 

[kongoman]

Lots of times I take less than my normal dose of methadone and I feel the same if Id take my normal dose.

 

[Señor Moreno]

If you tapper slowly you dont feel unconfortable at all. I did it a couple of times, so I dont see any advantages of cold turkey.

I did quit my first my first mdone regimen tapering no problem, but today after so many years have passed, I feel unconfortable when I reach 20 or 30 mg, no matter how carefully have O taper or how long and slowly I did it, when I reach dosages under 30 mg I feel it. I land in a nasty territory: not enough bad to say that I am sick; not enough well to say I am well and funtional.
Maybe Purgatory is made of this

 

[Señor Moreno]

If you tapper slowly you dont feel unconfortable at all. I did it a couple of times, so I dont see any advantages of cold turkey.

Oh, no no no! cold Turkey is out of the scene for me, I don't even fantasize with the idea.

But I don't know @kongoman, maybe I am wrong and I wish to be wrong, but I am very afraid that if you try to taper now, after decades using it and being currently on 60 mg, I say again that I am afraid that you will experience what I call the 'frontier": you are more or less ok on, say, 35mg, you eat, you work, you function for your prescribed 24 hours and you sleep kind of ok.
Then you taper to 33 and things are more or less the same. Then you go 32, 30... and your sleep isn't the same. Later you taper under 30mg, or 25 or whatever, and things aren't working like they used to. It's not only the worsening sleep, your energy only last 12 or 16 hours, and then you are tired as fuck; your clothes aren't confortable anymore and they don't prevent you from the increasing humidity/cold sensation.
Eventually you realize that you aren't bad only cause you"re adjusting to a new dose, no, you realize that you are in moderate wd and it will be like that for the next tapering months, and also more months after you finally jump to 0mg.
That perspective isn't easy to manage and not everybody can cope with it all.

But, people are different and, as I said, I really hope to be mistaken and that you could be able to taper and quit easily like you did in the past

Un abrazo hermano