Opioids Do people actually like methadone recreationally?

[phoenixk9]

The highest i went was 120

I went that high too,its a total waste..you can stabilize on 50/60 and taper yourself down.
Over 100 mg you become the methadone zombie imho or you dont feel it at all because of tolerance.

 

[Jabberwocky]

I was at 120 for roughly 2 years. It never gave me any euphoria, or energy. It just wiped out my memories and made me not give a shit about anything, which wasn’t what I wanted

I went from 120-8 in just under a year (I believe) with fairly mild physical withdrawls.
Eventually, I was switched to suboxone. Had 2 significant relapses and now I’m at 24mg.

Dropping by just 2mg fucks with my head big time. I just feel super fucky and always go back up. I’d rather deal with physical withdrawal over mental fuckery any day.

 

[phoenixk9]

I was at 120 for roughly 2 years. It never gave me any euphoria, or energy. It just wiped out my memories and made me not give a shit about anything, which wasn’t what I wanted

I went from 120-8 in just under a year (I believe) with fairly mild physical withdrawls.
Eventually, I was switched to suboxone. Had 2 significant relapses and now I’m at 24mg.

Dropping by just 2mg fucks with my head big time. I just feel super fucky and always go back up. I’d rather deal with physical withdrawal over mental fuckery any day.

yeah,120 is just too much..it will skyrocket your already high tolerance.
You know when you start to become tolarant of other opioids? and soon you are basically taking a ton just to feel normal because your body isnt producing the normal level of Endorphines etc..?
If you take small tolerance breaks and keep it at a relatively low level..maybe maintain on a low dose and get extra endorphines by working out..

I know this sounds impossible when you are in the middle of opioid dependency,but its something that do work and you dont have to give up opioids completely and live years with PAWS and all that.
I have made my peace with the fact that I probably always are going to use a moderate to small amount of opioids every day for depression,pain and PTSD..
But I want to be as high functioning as I possibly can be.
I realize its the system in the country I live in that enable this for me atm as they dont make you feel like you are being punished at the same time.
It may also be because I did get hooked while serving my country in a dangerous place where I got hurt and was put on this medication by military doctors assuring me that it was not as addictive or they wouldnt perscribe it.(Oxycontin)

It really used to mess with my head tapering down minute doses..I realize a lot of that was the Nocebo effect..the mind is a powerful thing.

 

[MedicinalUser247]

There are some people that once they get on methadone they stay on it for life.

 

[Jen X]

I went that high too,its a total waste..you can stabilize on 50/60 and taper yourself down.
Over 100 mg you become the methadone zombie imho or you dont feel it at all because of tolerance.

I think most of us go higher trying to get high, i never could get high from methadone though. When I was on it 50 or 60 was enough

 

[Jen X]

There are some people that once they get on methadone they stay on it for life.

I met people at my old clinic that were on it for 20+ years. Once I got off I made the decision to never touch it again. I get ms cotin and hydromorph for MS so thankfully don't need methadone.
I miss the sleep I would get though and it is good for pain. I just didn't want to go the clinic anymore and thankfully my neurologist agreed

 

[kongoman]

I was at 120 for roughly 2 years. It never gave me any euphoria, or energy. It just wiped out my memories and made me not give a shit about anything, which wasn’t what I wanted

I went from 120-8 in just under a year (I believe) with fairly mild physical withdrawls.
Eventually, I was switched to suboxone. Had 2 significant relapses and now I’m at 24mg.

Dropping by just 2mg fucks with my head big time. I just feel super fucky and always go back up. I’d rather deal with physical withdrawal over mental fuckery any day.

I dont understand if you were at 8mg methadone why are you at 24mg bupe? It gives you any euphoria or high?

 

[Jabberwocky]

I dont understand if you were at 8mg methadone why are you at 24mg bupe? It gives you any euphoria or high?

This was years ago, so I don’t fully remember all the details. But I ended up on another run, I can’t remember why, but I think I checked myself into the psych ward. Was introduced to a different doctor/clinic, and after some convincing, I chose to try suboxone. No high, no euphoria, just .. not sick.

 

[ChemicallyEnhanced]

Yeah it's great when you have no or a low active tolerance to opioids. When I was on 380mg/day of methadone years ago it didn't get me high, but if I were to take 60mg right now I'd get fucked up for a solid 18 hours.

These days I'd take methadone over oxycodone in a heart beat.

How the fuckedyfuck did you get a dose that high? Like, was that all prescribed?

 

[ChemicallyEnhanced]

Man, I’ve been to the methadone clinic and I never felt like any kind of buzz from methadone. Granted I got up to only 60mg but I have had way better experiences with suboxone when I was on it in the beginning.

Just keep seeing people talk about getting high on methadone on other platforms. I just never really found it recreational at all.

I was only on 60mg, too. I'd get weekend pickups (so, generally, you have to take it in front of the pharmacist on the day, but on a Friday I'd get Saturdays and Sundays to take home) and I'd get high enough to have a bit of a nod if I took the two weekend doses along with my regular dose on the Monday, so I'd go two days without any at all and then take 180mg on the Monday. It was nice, but I wouldn't call it particularly recreational.

 

[ChemicallyEnhanced]

i know William S Burroughs was a strange man, but he documented the "junky" life very well and had experience with opiates and opioids. I feel the same as him with methadone. It is satisfying to the addict and a good opioid. He wrote about being addicted to meperidine and having horrible side effects. But once he switched to methadone all side effects disappeared.

I never had buprenorphine. My last methadone stint was in 1990. I can not even remember if buprenorphine was even an option back then. But i do remember taking my methadone and feeling that nice warmth and strength kick back in

I really enjoyed "Junky", too. And the sequel (which was a word for gay that I can't quiet remember right now...not the f-slur..."Queer", maybe?).

 

[ChemicallyEnhanced]

I love methadone. For one thing, it's got legs. Not an intense high, but it lasts. Personally, I've always valued duration over rush-- with any drug.

For me, opiates are work drugs. I don't want to nod; I want to get moving and get shit done. Methadone is perfect for that. It elevates my mood and gives me several hours of relaxed energy. I do experience moderate euphoria.

When I was in a methadone maintenance program I got 180mg daily. That suited me just fine. If I've been off opioids for a while I can get a little buzz from 10mg and 40mg will get me high as fuck.

The only drawback of methadone is that getting off of it takes for-fuckin-ever...as we all know.

I was only on 60mg and they still planned to take me off of it "over 6 to 12 months, depending on how well you cope with coming off of it". I though FUCK THAT, I'm not gonna deal with even mild withdrawal for a YEAR. So I quit it cold turkey by myself. I was actually fine for almost 10 days (just kinda sweaty and for some reason REALLY horny) but then I had severe acute withdrawal that lasted for TEN WEEKS. That's the reason I will never again go on Methadone. Imagine the horrific symptoms you get for like 5 days coming off of most opioids and expand that for 70 days.
I don't know how I did it. Not even in a nice environment, I was in a homeless hostel during those weeks.

 

[kongoman]

I was only on 60mg and they still planned to take me off of it "over 6 to 12 months, depending on how well you cope with coming off of it". I though FUCK THAT, I'm not gonna deal with even mild withdrawal for a YEAR. So I quit it cold turkey by myself. I was actually fine for almost 10 days (just kinda sweaty and for some reason REALLY horny) but then I had severe acute withdrawal that lasted for TEN WEEKS. That's the reason I will never again go on Methadone. Imagine the horrific symptoms you get for like 5 days coming off of most opioids and expand that for 70 days.
I don't know how I did it. Not even in a nice environment, I was in a homeless hostel during those weeks.

In 10 weeks you could tapper almost all your 60mg.Like 60-50-40-30-25-20-25-20-15-10. Then 5-6 more weeks you can be at 0. Dont know why people coldd turkey?? I hate WD so just not understand why people do that.

 

[phoenixk9]

I think most of us go higher trying to get high, i never could get high from methadone though. When I was on it 50 or 60 was enough

Yes I think its counterintuitive for most addicts to reduce your dosage deliberately in order to get high.
To be fair to myself,its not expressively to get high thats a nice side bonus but to maintain on a low as possible dosage while staying active and being fit for work etc.

To be as normal as possible,that sometimes i can get a little high by taking a small amount of extra medicine is fine by me,
It gives me a nice relief from the pressures of my work tbh.

 

[phoenixk9]

How the fuckedyfuck did you get a dose that high? Like, was that all prescribed?

I heard even higher,something like 500mg plus in a NYC clinic in the 90s(documentary)..its where I picked up the term "methadone zombie"

 

[phoenixk9]

In 10 weeks you could tapper almost all your 60mg.Like 60-50-40-30-25-20-25-20-15-10. Then 5-6 more weeks you can be at 0. Dont know why people coldd turkey?? I hate WD so just not understand why people do that.

Yeah,I would rather get hit/shot nonfatally (get a morphine syrrete/shot as a bonus) then go trough hard withdrawals cold damn turkey and the Post acute withdrawal syndrome anxiety etc etc etc.

 

[Alex1991]

Yeah it's great when you have no or a low active tolerance to opioids. When I was on 380mg/day of methadone years ago it didn't get me high, but if I were to take 60mg right now I'd get fucked up for a solid 18 hours.

These days I'd take methadone over oxycodone in a heart beat.

Yeah when I was on methadone years ago and had carries sometimes I'd double up and catch a buzz from it that was pretty nice.

 

[kongoman]

Yeah,I would rather get hit/shot nonfatally (get a morphine syrrete/shot as a bonus) then go trough hard withdrawals cold damn turkey and the Post acute withdrawal syndrome anxiety etc etc etc.

Im sorry but I dont understand. Im spanish and dont know what you mean

 

[jasperkent]

In 10 weeks you could tapper almost all your 60mg.Like 60-50-40-30-25-20-25-20-15-10. Then 5-6 more weeks you can be at 0. Dont know why people coldd turkey?? I hate WD so just not understand why people do that.

Keep in mind that methadone is different in that it has a very long half-life. Withdrawal lasts an incredibly long time but it's nowhere near as intense as with other opioids. It's still extremely unpleasant, yes, but not totally debilitating.

 

[myownsef]

I took 10mg today, a concidedience this is the third time I have ever taken it, the last time was years ago. Opiates and I don't really know each other.
I had a hip replacement a little more than three weeks ago and my friend who is on the clinic felt sorry for me and gave me the 10 mg but the thing is; I still feel like some dude cut open my leg and sawed of the top to the bone and replaced it with some fucking thing and it hurts.
Nobody said it was going to hurt.
;-)