DMT while alone

[cyberius]

I have never done DMT with other people and I've used it 4 times. Just before you start make sure your in a comfortable safe place, and that you can easily put your pipe down with moments notice.

 

[YaDang]

I had the DMT prepared, was about to light it, and I just couldn't do it. For the first time ever, I felt utter fear about doing a psychedelic. The fear prevented me from going through with it, when normally I just accept I have some jitters and just do it anyway. I had to abort the whole procedure, after spending an entire evening getting the mood just right.

Ugh...

Has anyone experienced this?

that's great that you took such care and preparation. make it a point to follow through with the decisions you make in life. flexibility is always good, but as far as you went with this, all lights are green!

 

[YaDang]

I had the DMT prepared, was about to light it, and I just couldn't do it. For the first time ever, I felt utter fear about doing a psychedelic. The fear prevented me from going through with it, when normally I just accept I have some jitters and just do it anyway. I had to abort the whole procedure, after spending an entire evening getting the mood just right.

Ugh...

Has anyone experienced this?

that's great that you took such care and preparation. make it a point to follow through with the decisions you make in life. flexibility is always good, but as far as you went with this, all lights are green!

I don't know if this is the right place to ask but is it good to smoke DMT from a real cannabis vaporizer? I just ordered this for cannabisand I got 50mg of DMT. I have never done DMT before but I am aiming for the breakthrough experience.

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i've had an near-breakthrough experience with a hose-vaporizer before. it was two subsequent long drags held 30 seconds each, definitely coming up strong by the second hold-in.

it was enjoyable, but i like to use a method that allows a single hit. i've had great success with a skillet before.

 

[xammy]

that's great that you took such care and preparation. make it a point to follow through with the decisions you make in life. flexibility is always good, but as far as you went with this, all lights are green!



i've had an near-breakthrough experience with a hose-vaporizer before. it was two subsequent long drags held 30 seconds each, definitely coming up strong by the second hold-in.

it was enjoyable, but i like to use a method that allows a single hit. i've had great success with a skillet before.

So it cant be done or what? I really dont want to waste my DMT.. But it should be vaporized and I asked from the manufacturer and they said that vaporizer could go as slow as 40C and DMT should be vaporized in 60-80C if i'm right?

 

[crOOk]

So I have 50mg of DMT but I'm thinking if it would be smart to do like 25mg considering it's my first time? I have experienced high doses of acid and medium trips with shrooms, 2C-B etc but I know DMT is beyond all that. I'm not gonna get any more of this stuff in my hands, so would it be waste if I did only 25mg when obviously that is not enough to breakthrough? What's it like to take smaller doses of DMT? I'm not in any rush to do this, I've had the substance for months now. I will do it when i feel 100% to it but what do you say? Breakthrough is something I really look forward to experience.

25mg is pretty much worthless. What you want is a breakthrough on your first trial, by all means. 50mg might actually not even be enough for that, unless it is of very high purity and your vaporisation technique is spot-on. I wasted my first 150mg (shiny white dmt) without experiencing any effects whatsoever due to improper technique. When I received the next 300mg I went straight for oral+MAOI to avoid further fuckups. This worked perfectly well and was a good preparation towards a breakthrough dose of smoked DMTsince it comes on a lot slower.

Again, I can only stress that there is absolutely nothing to fear when smoking DMT in the right place. It is actually very warm, gentle and calming despite the extremely high intensity of the experience. This is very unlike mushrooms, DPT or 5-MeO-DMT (or countless other psychedelics) which can be pretty fucking scary. While I have had a bad DMT experience, this was due to accidental consumption of 120mg (DON'T ASK!) in a very bad setting. Even that experience wasn't much more than "slightly unsettling" unlike my bad mushroom trips (which were hell on earth to put it mildly). I've never seen anyone have a bad experience on DMT. A schizophrenic friend of mine dosed 60mg on acid and when I came back from my trip I found him simultaneouls puking and taking a shit while standing over a toilet, yet he did not find the experience psychologically unsettling. DMT is very intense, but nonetheless exceptionally gentle stuff.

Also, I'd recommend following Broseph's advice and letting an experienced friend handle the pipe and lighter after explaining you how to properly drag. That's exactly what I've always done when introducing people to DMT with close to 100% breakthrough rate.

 

[DragonFly31]

A schizophrenic friend of mine dosed 60mg on acid and when I came back from my trip I found him simultaneouls puking and taking a shit while standing over a toilet, yet he did not find the experience psychologically unsettling.

That's pretty rank!

 

[crOOk]

it was enjoyable, but i like to use a method that allows a single hit. i've had great success with a skillet before.

That doesn't work for everyone ime. Single hit is desirable, but some people just can't do it and have to sneak in a 2nd one before they're hit. Just saying, it's not only depending on the device you're using.

 

[xammy]

thanks crOOk, I'm going to use cannabis vaporizer to do DMT. Manufacturer said it goes as slow as 40C, any tips? I just hope i don't burn the crystals. Should i put something else with DMT to the vaporizer, some herb? to prevent them burning

 

[crOOk]

Never tried that and I don't think it'll work very well. Will the vapor directly enter your lungs or is it collected? You'll never want to smoke pot through that vaporizer again, cause it'll smell like shit. Imho go for a 150°C or so. I know it sounds too high in theory, but you won't vape the dmt at 80°C, at least that's my guess.

I usually use whatever pipe is available, doesn't need to be anything fancy. I put some tobacco over the whole where the smoke leaves the cone, sprinkle the DMT on top, then put the lighter's flame right above the cone. When inhaling, make sure the flame gets dragged far enough down to almost touch the dmt, but inhale VERY slowly (save breathe). Then when you feel you've got a good lungful, just torch that shit by moving the flame closer, right into the dmt. Otherwise you'll have some unvaped DMT left. Take a huge final inhalation. Keep vapor inside the lungs for as long as you can. BOOM BLAST OFF! Enjoy

If you want to go for vaporizer, try it. I really cannot say whether that will work or not though.

 

[xammy]

Isn't there any way to avoid the smell? I don't want to ruin brand new vaporizer.. I posted a picture of the vaporizer above. The camber is removable so wouldnt it be easy just to clean it after DMT?

 

[.:Holy::Toast:.]

The best way to avoid the smell sticking to your vape is to not use your vape.
Trust, using a glass pipe or a bong with the DMT spread over ash is very simple and effective.
Using the vape would be unnecessary imo

 

[p-helix]

Isn't there any way to avoid the smell? I don't want to ruin brand new vaporizer.. I posted a picture of the vaporizer above. The camber is removable so wouldnt it be easy just to clean it after DMT?

If the vape is easily cleaned glass and metal then the vaping whip might be the only ruined part and could be cheaply replaced - buy a spare perhaps - otherwise use a solvent like isopropyl alcohol or acetone. I don't know how well the vape'll work though. If you do try it, start with 50mg and try to inhale it in one to three inhalations, each time inhaling and holding in for about fifteen seconds. Any amount much less than 50mg would be self-defeating.

I use an 'essential vaaapp' pipe because it works so well, is cleanable, safe to use and 4ml glass vials are disposable and inexpensive. I actually use a separate one for hash oil to save me cleaning DMT each time.

 

[crOOk]

Isn't there any way to avoid the smell? I don't want to ruin brand new vaporizer.. I posted a picture of the vaporizer above. The camber is removable so wouldnt it be easy just to clean it after DMT?

I looked at the picture and I'm afraid some of the DMT will go solid upon cooling down and get stuck to the inner wall of the glass chamber. Bad idea if all you have is 50mg.

If you do try it, start with 50mg and try to inhale it in one to three inhalations, each time inhaling and holding in for about fifteen seconds.

Are you sure about that timing? It doesn't take 15 seconds for me to get hit. By that time I would suggest a new user should've inhaled all the DMT he is going to take in.

 

[xammy]

Well, I don't have anything but a bong and a basic cannabis pipe so I think ill use the sandwich method with the pipe then. Or are the meth type of glass pipes cheap if I were to order one of those? Is it against the rules to link them, if not i would appreciate if you would point me into the right direction where I could order online.

 

[SWIM Had A Dream]

While trip sitting a friend....she ripped the deems....blasted off...and started coughing very hard (presumably from the harshness) I was glad I was there to roll here on her side in case she might have aspirated vomit or other fluid

 

[p-helix]

I looked at the picture and I'm afraid some of the DMT will go solid upon cooling down and get stuck to the inner wall of the glass chamber. Bad idea if all you have is 50mg.

Are you sure about that timing? It doesn't take 15 seconds for me to get hit. By that time I would suggest a new user should've inhaled all the DMT he is going to take in.

There is a risk of some DMT condensing inside the glass chamber and draw whip but I don't know how much. In relation to the timing, it would take longer than the pipe/bong methods but might work strongly and smoothly due to the lower temperature of the DMT. If the inhalations are about five seconds and holding in is ten that's fifteen seconds. The ten seconds holding would allow the vape temperature back up slightly, so if more remains in the chamber take the second hit on the second inhalation. Anything left after that, vape that too. It takes about thirty seconds to kick in fully so the third hit would be difficult but nonetheless possible. If the vaporizer works slowly then more time's needed to inhale before blast-off, basically. Worth testing with water or another compound to see how it goes.

I'm not too sure what method is best, but I'm surprised nobody else has tried the essential vaaapp method yet because it does work well. Vaporizing DMT involves no coughing either IME.

 

[crOOk]

Well, I don't have anything but a bong and a basic cannabis pipe so I think ill use the sandwich method with the pipe then. Or are the meth type of glass pipes cheap if I were to order one of those? Is it against the rules to link them, if not i would appreciate if you would point me into the right direction where I could order online.

Standard pipe works perfectly well.

 

[Foreigner]

I tried DMT tonight for the first time, while alone. I had about 80mg to use. I'm actually glad I did it alone because having anyone else around telling me what to do would have made me too nervous.

I vaped a little bit at first to sample it, and I coughed my lungs out. I quit smoking 3 months ago so my lungs are practically virgin again, and boy does this stuff do a number on the lungs. I felt way lighter just from that one toke, like I had become an apparition... so I vaped a bunch more so that it was nice and thick. I took several tokes from the bottle until I could no longer sit up, holding it for a few seconds but then coughing my lungs out each time. I tried to hold it in for as long as I could but it was just so damned hard, even the back my throat started swelling up and the tip of my tongue was kind of numb.

I felt like I was being lifted out of my body, and I traveled forward through some kind of blue electric web that throbbed, rolled, and waved like the ocean. It was really neat. It kind of looked like star trek for a minute there. I could hear my music the entire time though, and I could move, so I don't think I broke through. The music I was listening to started to warp and at first I thought something was wrong with the sound system until I realized it must be the DMT, but that's as far as I got. I didn't "leave".

I honestly don't know how I am ever going to be able to take enough of that into my lungs to have a breakthrough experience. My body will just not let me hold it without coughing no matter how hard I try. This is the harshest shit I have ever put into my lungs. The only way I can see this working is if I go back to smoking full time so that the cilia in my lungs are nice and dead. My stomach is also upset, either from swallowing whatever I coughed up or just from the drug effect itself. FWIW I used "the machine" method. I made sure I flamed the tinfoil ahead of time to vape any unwanted chemicals. I really don't think it was the foil that was so harsh because I've done other drugs off foil before and never coughed so violently. It was hard to enjoy the limited trip because I was constantly clearing my throat.

When the first round wore off I decided to take some ketamine. It's highly uncharacteristic of me to mix anything when I'm doing a drug for the first time but I thought maybe it could help me lift off if I did that + more DMT. I couldn't seem to hold that shit in my lungs for long and figured the two would surely synergize. And boy, was I right... it was very angelic and bright with lots of rolling webbing and design, but it was way too intense and yet I still did not enter hyperspace. Frustrating.

I think I just did not do enough DMT due to the coughing problem. I can see the benefits of DMT... it's very colourful and complex. IMO not worth the lung irritation for such a short duration, and I would rather do an oral form like ayahuasca. Never thought in a million years I'd say this but I would rather risk puking a bit than frying my lungs like I did tonight. At least the puking comes attached to a 6-8 hour trip.

 

[xammy]

I tried DMT tonight for the first time, while alone. I had about 80mg to use. I'm actually glad I did it alone because having anyone else around telling me what to do would have made me too nervous.

I vaped a little bit at first to sample it, and I coughed my lungs out. I quit smoking 3 months ago so my lungs are practically virgin again, and boy does this stuff do a number on the lungs. I felt way lighter just from that one toke, like I had become an apparition... so I vaped a bunch more so that it was nice and thick. I took several tokes from the bottle until I could no longer sit up, holding it for a few seconds but then coughing my lungs out each time. I tried to hold it in for as long as I could but it was just so damned hard, even the back my throat started swelling up and the tip of my tongue was kind of numb.

I felt like I was being lifted out of my body, and I traveled forward through some kind of blue electric web that throbbed, rolled, and waved like the ocean. It was really neat. It kind of looked like star trek for a minute there. I could hear my music the entire time though, and I could move, so I don't think I broke through. The music I was listening to started to warp and at first I thought something was wrong with the sound system until I realized it must be the DMT, but that's as far as I got. I didn't "leave".

I honestly don't know how I am ever going to be able to take enough of that into my lungs to have a breakthrough experience. My body will just not let me hold it without coughing no matter how hard I try. This is the harshest shit I have ever put into my lungs. The only way I can see this working is if I go back to smoking full time so that the cilia in my lungs are nice and dead. My stomach is also upset, either from swallowing whatever I coughed up or just from the drug effect itself. FWIW I used "the machine" method. I made sure I flamed the tinfoil ahead of time to vape any unwanted chemicals. I really don't think it was the foil that was so harsh because I've done other drugs off foil before and never coughed so violently. It was hard to enjoy the limited trip because I was constantly clearing my throat.

When the first round wore off I decided to take some ketamine. It's highly uncharacteristic of me to mix anything when I'm doing a drug for the first time but I thought maybe it could help me lift off if I did that + more DMT. I couldn't seem to hold that shit in my lungs for long and figured the two would surely synergize. And boy, was I right... it was very angelic and bright with lots of rolling webbing and design, but it was way too intense and yet I still did not enter hyperspace. Frustrating.

I think I just did not do enough DMT due to the coughing problem. I can see the benefits of DMT... it's very colourful and complex. IMO not worth the lung irritation for such a short duration, and I would rather do an oral form like ayahuasca. Never thought in a million years I'd say this but I would rather risk puking a bit than frying my lungs like I did tonight. At least the puking comes attached to a 6-8 hour trip.

There were some kind of correlation between breaking through and smoking cigarettes as they have mild MAOI properties(?). Don't know if this has been scientifically proved tho

 

[ricardo08]

I honestly don't know how I am ever going to be able to take enough of that into my lungs to have a breakthrough experience. My body will just not let me hold it without coughing no matter how hard I try. This is the harshest shit I have ever put into my lungs. The only way I can see this working is if I go back to smoking full time so that the cilia in my lungs are nice and dead. My stomach is also upset, either from swallowing whatever I coughed up or just from the drug effect itself. FWIW I used "the machine" method. I made sure I flamed the tinfoil ahead of time to vape any unwanted chemicals. I really don't think it was the foil that was so harsh because I've done other drugs off foil before and never coughed so violently. It was hard to enjoy the limited trip because I was constantly clearing my throat.

When the first round wore off I decided to take some ketamine. It's highly uncharacteristic of me to mix anything when I'm doing a drug for the first time but I thought maybe it could help me lift off if I did that + more DMT. I couldn't seem to hold that shit in my lungs for long and figured the two would surely synergize. And boy, was I right... it was very angelic and bright with lots of rolling webbing and design, but it was way too intense and yet I still did not enter hyperspace. Frustrating.

I think I just did not do enough DMT due to the coughing problem. I can see the benefits of DMT... it's very colourful and complex. IMO not worth the lung irritation for such a short duration, and I would rather do an oral form like ayahuasca. Never thought in a million years I'd say this but I would rather risk puking a bit than frying my lungs like I did tonight. At least the puking comes attached to a 6-8 hour trip.

I'd suggest looking into dmt enhanced leaf, or "changa" if caapi or some maoi is in the blend. It's MUCH easier on the lungs and you don't have to worry about vaping it. It's also somewhat of a smoother ride, slightly prolonged due to the caapi which gives a bit more time to make sense of what's going on. Imo it's the only way to fly.