DMT while alone

[YaDang]

As an experienced tripper, I'm very much looking forward to experiencing DMT on my own, and have some on the way! I personally recommend that anyone who is comfortable with psychedelics and sure of themselves try them alone. It makes for a completely different trip, and can be very enlightening!

 

[Solipsis]

Hi YaDang welcome to BL/PD :D

if you are interested in more about tripping alone we have an entire centralized thread on it here: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=302487
Please check our psychedelic index for a list of central threads with lots of info, opinions and discussion - and you can use the Beginners FAQ. Links below in my signature.

But you are also just as welcome here of course.

carry on

 

[ricardo08]

DMT is unbelievable but I am convinced that (barring mentally unstable people) if you heart is pure and your mind and intentions are clear, there is really nothing to worry about and if you need to be comforted, the DMT experience can do that.

I agree with this. If you feel absolutely open to the experience it will open itself to you in a more manageable way than if you're not.

I can imagine doing DMT with a group of people you aren't completely trusting with could potentially be a bit jarring. I personally love doing it alone; just be sure to dose right.

 

[lovepsychadelics]

My first few smoked DMT experiences, indeed they were my FIRST DMT experience were bellow breakthrough dose. However after 2-3 mid level doses in the space of two hours I decided to double the dose and most certainly "broke through". I'd try a mid mid range dose of smoked DMT to get a feel of where you will be headed and then go for a break through level dose. Just my opinion and nothing more. Otherwise everything that can be said has been said by previous posters. Enjoy .

 

[YaDang]

Thanks Solipsis This place has so much knowledge, glad to play a part.

I agree with what others are saying, if the people you do it with know, there will be a sort of quiet calm to let the person go on their journey. Some music is especially useful in these situations. The people I was with played Stairway to Heaven my first time, eventually my perceptual attention did shift from my auditory senses, the beginning was a great mood enhancer for everyone involved. Pink Floyd is good too!
And the importance your friends play in maintaining a safe environment is always valuable. However if you plan accordingly, and it seems you're the type who is very capable, then tripping safely alone is not a problem.

Foreigner, have you ever read Zen Flesh, Zen Bones? I think you would like it!

 

[bunnyhentman]

As for music... hmmm... I'll have to think about that. It was my understanding that with higher dose DMT, even aural sensation is taken over and brought elsewhere.

I've found that any ambient sound gets incorporated into my DMT experience, particularly during the ascent. A fan, radiator, car alarm etc becomes the sounds of the space port / elf machinery / or whathaveyou as I hurtle through the veil. Playing music REALLY helps me get to the right place. I prefer something quiet, no vocals but with a trance-inducing beat (not necessarily trance music -- indigenous drumming, new agey stuff like Laraaji, Donato Dozzy works for me).

One of my most special DMT experiences was when I was listening to a beloved song while a friend assisted me with the dmt pipe. As I started to take off, I sort of saw a cartoon version of the musician racing ahead of me, building a neon path out of sound to guide me to the entry point into DMT space. I just felt so much warmth and appreciation for the musician/architect who was helping me traverse the void. And when I started to fall back down, the music was waiting for me, both a parachute and a landing strip that made reintegration smooth and easy.

Now, I am wary of smoking DMT alone when I'm already on other psychedelics. This is because I have seen people mix smoked DMT with already powerful LSD or RC-cocktail trips and really go beyond to the point they were trying to walk around rooms they couldn't see, completely blinded by their fractal hologram universes. In those cases, it could have been very dangerous to leave them on their own for the 5-10 minutes it took wear off.

 

[ricardo08]

I generally use ambient music, but if I'm having a "breakthrough" experience I only ever notice it on the way up and on the way down. It's nice to come home to, though.

Another thing, tell anyone in your house what you're doing. I made the mistake of not telling my house mate and she knocked on the door and called my name right as I was about to slip away and the rest of the experience was a confusing mess of me scrambling around my mind for a word to shout back at her to let her know I didn't want anything from the shop. I think I managed, ".....Wait!" before I was gone completely. Kind of ruined it from there on, came back a bit shaken up.

 

[xammy]

I don't know if this is the right place to ask but is it good to smoke DMT from a real cannabis vaporizer? I just ordered this for cannabisand I got 50mg of DMT. I have never done DMT before but I am aiming for the breakthrough experience.

 

[p-helix]

xammy, if it can vaporize liquids. Most ways are about technique as much as anything else. The best way is to inhale - without hurting your lungs and wanting to cough - in one to several long inhalations - the full 50mg. ^

Music is something to behold on dimethyltryptamine, it is enhanced, sounds can enhance the experience, but at higher doses sound and the experience from within takes over. Sounds outside may detract from the experience or benefit it.
Higher doses certainly make music or sound unneeded though. The peace, tranquility and completeness of DMTs effects are there, it is positively amazing that such blissful moments can be found. These experiences are best found in serene circumstances feeling fully comfortable to embrace the experience.

 

[crOOk]

I'll preface this by saying I've never done DMT before, but I really want to try it.

I've made friends with a small group of people who have an ample n,n-DMT supply they're willing to share freely, but the problem is that they don't approach psychedelics in the same sacred manner I do. For them it's like entertainment. They've invited me over to their home to do it with them.

What I'm not interested in, is all eyes on me while I'm going through whatever experience I go through. I really hate being watched while I'm breaking through... it's a very personal, private experience. I know that when I do the DMT I'll likely just be gone so I won't care about these people, but it's the principle of it. Knowing that I'm being watched or analyzed, possibly for some kind of entertainment value, is something I completely reject.

I also don't want to be bombarded with questions and intrusions once I come back because I find that just as invasive. For me this is not entertainment, it's exploration of consciousness... and it's not a party trick to me. If I need to process my experience then I'm not sure if I want to be around so many people.

This group has offered to sell me some, which I am considering. But I'm wondering if it's safe to do breakthrough-level DMT on my own, given that it's my first time? My understanding of it is that you really can't move when you're on it, so if I situate myself properly I could have a private journey myself.

Feedback is appreciated. I'm just trying to avoid having a bad experience either way. For me, in the past, psychedelics + groups of people = usually a bad time.

Judging by the sounds of it, I'd reocmmend not doing it with them, but with a close friend OR with only one of them. Ask them to be as quiet as possible.

I even try to breathe quietly whenever I introduce someone to DMT. Turn the flat dark, light candles, turn on the right music (dead can dance), give them a comfy place to sit or lie down (matter of preference), then hold the pipe for them and light it etc. After that I just try to be as silent as possible. I still love seeing the expression on someone's face when he is first catapulted into hyperspace. :D

Btw I do not think it poses any problem whatsoever to do DMT alone, but you might prefer the company of a close friend so you can share your thoughts and feelings on what the experience means to you. It's so much more beautiful that way and also helps most people remember it a whole lot better!!

 

[p-helix]

light candles

Absolutely. Candlelight brings its own magic to the DMT experience by virtue of tremendous beauty, extraordinary light and colours and may become the focal point in terms of the candle flame itself. Candlelight may also help with mood in preparing mentally for the trip, whether eyes are open or closed, for the few minutes of the trip's duration as well as afterwards. Atmosphere.

 

[Octarine]

Hey there foreigner! Just wanted to help if I can...
I've broken through completely, once and being alone was a MUST!

The only reasons I would recommended people around, is for physical safety..
Because once you blast off, you need to make sure your body is in a safe place. I noticed a complete replacement, of this world with another.

You seem like your intent is good, so I couldn't imagine a solo tip being too problematic.

I recommend a soft place to lay down during your trip.

OHH!! I just remembered, what helped me a lot in my DMT exploration is to remember this... "Smile and know everything is okay"

 

[buildersoftime]

it all depends on set /setting and purity.

Purity how so? Can you explain how a few plant fats and tannins can affect the nature of the trip? Are you saying that they're psychoactive in their own right or that they have magic vibes like your crystals apparently do?

 

[Foreigner]

I had the DMT prepared, was about to light it, and I just couldn't do it. For the first time ever, I felt utter fear about doing a psychedelic. The fear prevented me from going through with it, when normally I just accept I have some jitters and just do it anyway. I had to abort the whole procedure, after spending an entire evening getting the mood just right.

Ugh...

Has anyone experienced this?

 

[crOOk]

I had the DMT prepared, was about to light it, and I just couldn't do it. For the first time ever, I felt utter fear about doing a psychedelic. The fear prevented me from going through with it, when normally I just accept I have some jitters and just do it anyway. I had to abort the whole procedure, after spending an entire evening getting the mood just right.

Ugh...

Has anyone experienced this?

Well I am very excited before doing DMT, even after having done it 100s of times. But ultimately I am not a whuss, so this has never happened to me and probably not to any other man on this planet. My advice would be to go seek a gynecologist and have him clean that sand out of your vagina, maybe afterwards you will feel up to it!

 

[Broseph Smith]

I had the DMT prepared, was about to light it, and I just couldn't do it. For the first time ever, I felt utter fear about doing a psychedelic. The fear prevented me from going through with it, when normally I just accept I have some jitters and just do it anyway. I had to abort the whole procedure, after spending an entire evening getting the mood just right.

Ugh...

Has anyone experienced this?

Yes.

Wait for it to feel right. I lined up at the starting line several times thinking I was ready but when I flicked the lighter I wasn't ready. It took a few attempts over several weeks before I felt ready. But I can tell you that I was happy I did it when I finally did and couldn't wait to do it again! but even after experience with it you'll still find that despite planning in advance and being physically prepared with setting you will still find that the mind set will be very sensitive and you'll "bail" at the last moment (literally). But that's ok with me. I don't ever treat DMT as a "you planned to do it, so do it," but rather will pass on a fully prepared for night with DMT if something doesn't feel right, even if it is slight.

I have never feared it, but I have never forced it to happen. Always be open to passing it if it doesn't feel right. That said, I hope it happens soon for you.

Cheers.

 

[xammy]

So I have 50mg of DMT but I'm thinking if it would be smart to do like 25mg considering it's my first time? I have experienced high doses of acid and medium trips with shrooms, 2C-B etc but I know DMT is beyond all that. I'm not gonna get any more of this stuff in my hands, so would it be waste if I did only 25mg when obviously that is not enough to breakthrough? What's it like to take smaller doses of DMT? I'm not in any rush to do this, I've had the substance for months now. I will do it when i feel 100% to it but what do you say? Breakthrough is something I really look forward to experience.

 

[Broseph Smith]

^if you want to break through, and only have 50mg and cannot access more... Well, you'll probably need all 50mg, and have to be almost perfect in how you vape it so as not to waste any. :-/ be careful but do it all if you cannot work your way up with smaller doses due to lack of supply. Get someone who knows how to make and use "the DMT machine" to help you light it and hit it. That person will help you not waste any by coaching or even supplying the hit (helps if they actually will hold the pipe and fire as well as let you know when to exhale, etc.), and can be a trip-sitter for you so you're more relaxed about breaking through on your first dance with DMT. Be safe.

Cheers.

 

[p-helix]

So I have 50mg of DMT but I'm thinking if it would be smart to do like 25mg considering it's my first time? I have experienced high doses of acid and medium trips with shrooms, 2C-B etc but I know DMT is beyond all that. I'm not gonna get any more of this stuff in my hands, so would it be waste if I did only 25mg when obviously that is not enough to breakthrough? What's it like to take smaller doses of DMT? I'm not in any rush to do this, I've had the substance for months now. I will do it when i feel 100% to it but what do you say? Breakthrough is something I really look forward to experience.

'Breakthrough is something I really look forward to experience.'

Definitely. 20-30mg is very interesting, noteworthy of different sensations, sounds and vision, but well short of the amazing capacity DMT has in mind and body at breakthrough dose. To have an immersive, captivating experience in the DMT realm I reckon I need 50-60mg. 20mg at once then within ten minutes 30mg at once might work. Very safe and easy on the body. Lower dose there are interesting OEVs, colours are sharpened and move, but without fulfilling the dreams and expectations of the breakthrough dose, merely knocking on the door whereas the higher dose opens into reality beyond imagination.

Obviously, it's important to choose a time when one does DMT. But I will allow for my mood to take me there quite rapidly sometimes, in a hurry almost. It can even be a reliable medicine in these situations. DMT-time is different from other times.

 

[DragonFly31]

I want to share my experience on this matter.

I was at a festival in Croatia last summer and a guy was walking around selling changa. I was there with about 10 fellow campers. Being the only one stupid enough to want to try it, it was my first time, and I took some. And everyone was watching me... In complete silence... As I did a solid dose and went, well, far beyond this world.

The fact that everyone was watching me made me self conscious, with a drug that extinguishes the ego. It wasn't a pleasant experience because of this, though I really enjoyed the colours and intense warping of reality.

So I completely understand you wanting to do this alone. It's what I plan to do next time. I'm not experienced, but it doesn't seem dangerous.