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DMT has HUGE body load. Is that normal?

^Have you mixed 5-Meo-DMT with n,n,DMT BD? A pretty wild ride, but the body load of plain 5-Meo-DMT is somewhat negated and transformed/transduced into something else, more relaxing....though cardiac issue really bother me with 5-MeO-DMT. I get intense tachycardia and have recently had pains in my left arm after using it, as well as numbness and palpitations that lasted long after the psychoactive effects. It didn't bother me, as I knew it would fade, but its stopped me from doing 5-Meo-DMT again for a while. That said, this was a solo dose of ~25mgs smoked. Too much, and I think MAO inhibition caused some of the cardiac issue.

Hmm, I used to get a lot of parathesia (pins n needles) when I smoked it, but now, it acts as a muscle relaxant; everything about me goes limp, occasonally I have pissed myself :D However, the feeling like someone has smashed your face in can be very dramatic- best to try and work with it I reckon. To me, as someone recovering from anxiety issues, DMT is the most relaxing PHYSICAL sensation I have.

Taste is perhaps aqcired; but I love it personally :)
 
porkstock said:
kinda makes me re-evaluate my desire to try DMT
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Makes me cringe to read those words... ;) For what it's worth, my snow-white freezer-precipitated MHRB extract has never given me a hint of anything I'd describe as a body load. Physical effects consequential to DMT-rippage are as follows: first, a post-physical-exertion type of sensation, not to an uncomfortable degree (you can imagine the path to hyperspace as a bit of a steep hike); shortly thereafter you'll reach the "breakthrough" stage of the trip, the physical sensations of which nobody will probably ever be able to tell you, because everybody's too busy laughing and crying and wondering what the FUCK is going on, and HOW is any of this even possible?! and then you're light as a feather, gently floating back to earth, and breathing and smiling is easier than it ever has been.

Dancing like a loon to some psytrance at that point is highly recommended! ;)
 
^Haha i love smoking a high dose of dmt with no tolerance. It reminds me of a ridiculous roller coaster. First comes the insane rushing feeling of you being blasted into hyperspace before you even finish that second hit. The that oh fuck sensation and after that i always look around my room and let out a wtf? as i realize my room is completely and utterly alien to me. God I fell utterly in love with smoked dmt from the first smoke.
 
I never once felt like my skin was on fire. I sometimes (on my +++) lost the ability to have complete control over physical actions (standing, walking, gripping my hand) but I never was in pain, felt displeasure, was upset, anything.

DMT's body high is very much like an opiate (to me), in the sense that it's WARM and LOVING and GIVES YOU MORE. <3 DMT
 
Pure vs impure DMT, there's really no difference here. Impure DMT will make it a harsher smoke but have no affect on how it feels or makes you trip.
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I have to somewhat disagree here. It depends what the impurities are...

Most common impurities in extracted DMT are DMT-N-oxide, lye, jungle alkaloids and plant fats.

Of these lye is certainly inactive, other than harshening the smoke. Plant oils are most likely inactive, although some argue that they affect the DMT trip somehow. There could be some unknown compounds hiding in the plant oils, relatively little is known about the components of DMT plants.

DMT-n-oxide is the oxidized DMT molecule. It is supposed to mostly convert into DMT as it vaporizes, but very many people say it produces different effects than DMT, so it's hard to say.

Lastly there are the mysterious jungle alkaloids, the exact composition of which are a subject of speculation. Yuremamine has been thought to be included, also betacarbolines, all we know is that (some of) the jungle alkaloids have MAOI properties and potentiate the DMT trip quite a bit.
 
^Thats really only an issue for MHRB though is it not? Most acacia spp. used for DMT are relatively free of beta-carbs and yuremamine. I think 5-Meo-DMT will be found in traces in A. Cortii and Obtusifolia though....
 
swilow said:
^Have you mixed 5-Meo-DMT with n,n,DMT BD? A pretty wild ride, but the body load of plain 5-Meo-DMT is somewhat negated and transformed/transduced into something else, more relaxing....
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Indeed I have, several times. The ratios can be adjusted depending on how I feel. Except I seem to have a different reaction than you... the 5-meo-DMT seems to smooth over the DMT.

Hard to pick apart the effects when they are combined. But probably not the best time to spend picking things apart anyway?
 
I often get the sensation of my body mass becoming infinitely dense, while at the same time an amazing sense of weightlessness.
 
i always get this feeling of being heavy and liquid, never had a bad body load feeling. infact it was nice. however once i break through i dont even know i have a body
 
Three things.

1. you guys know this thread is over a year old, right? It was necroed.

2. The guy who necroed it is from Rochester, NY? I went to school there, never met another BLer from the area, and now I randomly run into one :P UofR ftw.

3. I get a very strong rushing sensation from DMT as well, and medium doses (enough to have substantial effects but not enough to blast off) can be a little physically unpleasant at times - a sort of nervous/anxious energy combined with overall 'weirdness' to bodily sensations. Most of the time, after a minute or two it fades away and I can enjoy the rest of the dose. I don't always get the rush and when I do it isn't always unpleasant, and once the effects properly 'set in' I find DMT to be very smooth on the body and at times quite euphoric.
 
^You need to able to lie down after smoking it- I get intense vertigo from DMT but I love the feeling of surrender.

I've mentioned it before somewhere, but I also feel extremely sensual when on it. Nothing pleases me more then sucking my fingers- its like I AM the fingers being licked and I AM the licker of fingers.

Yeeah, okay. God fingers FTW. :D
 
solistus said:
1. you guys know this thread is over a year old, right? It was necroed.
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Yup, but i thought it was an interesting thread despite been over a year old, because i find the body-load to be extremely pleasant, whereas most people i speak to find it uncomfortable. It's like i am the floating essence of I AMness :)
 
malakaix said:
Yup, but i thought it was an interesting thread despite been over a year old, because i find the body-load to be extremely pleasant, whereas most people i speak to find it uncomfortable. It's like i am the floating essence of I AMness :)
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I agree... so what if the thread was "necroed" (great term, btw)... and a year is not that old.

This is a GREAT topic, and a very intriguing question, trying to describe and discuss the body load from DMT.

I have some n,n-DMT but not yet worked up the courage to smoke it. But I am trying to read and learn as much as possible about it so as to be a little prepared and know what to expect. I already know to "expect the unexpected" and it seems that's the only consensus, though some have thoughtfully attempted to describe in detail the visuals, thoughts and sensations of their experiences. I wish more would do so instead of resorting to, essentially "Wow, man" posts.

I once did some 5-Meo-DMT, 10mg oral, 45 minutes after an mao-inhibitor... described here: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showpost.php?p=8769299&postcount=616 (along with a post of Alex Grey's gorgeous "Dying" painting... check it out, y'all!)

That experience did include a VERY strong body-load component, that was simultaneously alarming, but in a very weird way that is tough to describe, intensely almost sexually pleasurable.

It was like I could feel every single molecule of my body humming and buzzing, especially in my head. The description from the movie Fight Club "All singing, all dancing" comes to mind. It was almost as if every particle of my body awoke and began singing and dancing and I could FEEL all of them doing that, creating a vivid almost electric buzzing sensation.

Another term that comes to mind is "magnetic," though I don't know why. It was like I could feel my substance becoming powerfully magnetic and a sense of "pull" as it was attracted to itself and to everything else around it. Weird but in a strange way pleasant.

Well, there's my 2 cents! Similar to n.n-DMT or different?
 
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did you right the words "dmt" and 'normal" in the same sentence, without a negation?
or is my eyesight deteriorating? :)
 
the most euphoric rush of infinite mass without the effects of gravity.

I love DMT

Sometimes however, I have smoked a few bowls of Caapi leaf and then smoked the FB DMT, if I smoke too much caapi sometimes I get a sort of cycling energy flowing through my body, its almost as if I can feel my blood cycling through my body with each heart beat.... its not scarey or bad feeling. In fact, it feels like its cleansing me when it happens.
 
I don't have time to read all the topic, but I hope this wasn't written before

I have a bigger bodyload sensation with n-oxide, can be you had a pretty N-oxydated results
 
greenk said:
Hey,

I thought I'd ask some of the DMT experts here a question:

What is the body load of DMT supposed to be like?

I ask because I have recently extracted some DMT from the "DMT for the Masses" tek. I must note that I skipped the ammonia wash at the end because the author mentioned later that it wastes too much product and that a sodium carbonate wash should be used instead. I have yet to run out and get some sodium carbonate, so I have been smoking the unwashed DMT. Based off of a couple DMT-Nexus posts it doesn't seem like skipping the wash is that detrimental, but I would like a little bit more confirmation than two posts :P.

Essentially, when I smoke the DMT I experience some level of a trip (have yet to breakthrough), but along with that is a pretty uncomfortable body load. I just am pretty overcome by a heavy synthetic feeling, the taste and the smell doesn't help either. There is definitely a not-so-pleasant body load, a physical feeling that is so bizarre that I find that I can't really describe it. It is just a really foreign feeling so I have a hard time recalling describable components of the body load.

My question to you guys is, is this body load normal? Is there a pretty intense body load associated with DMT, or do I need to wash the DMT?

Right now I can't see how it can be anything but the DMT that is making me feel like this. The product itself looks perfectly fine. Nice and white, with the slightest tinge of yellow. There is a bit of lye in the powder. I messed up separating the naptha from the lye by sucking a little lye into my turkey baster, which I was using to skim the naptha off the top. Keep in mind, this couple of drops isn't 100% lye. It's a mixture of water, lye, and whatever the bark decided to add to the mixture. With that in mind, also consider that lye combusts at a very high temperature, VERY high, so it's unlikely to even enter my lungs.


So what's up?! Does DMT have a weird body high associated with it or do I need to wash this stuff?
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is it extracted from mimosa? In that case we can account for the bodyload because of the additional compounds found in mimosa hostilis (beta-carbolines that ARE active when vaporized).
 
Are you sure they can be extracted the same way dmt is?
'cause I think in a dmt extraction tek you wont take B-carbolines too...
 
^I (maybe incorrectly) associate body load with other trace alkaloids, maybe 5-MeO-DMT. At least, the negative body load....Really nice white crystals seem very positive and comfortable.
 
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