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DMT- first time, first psychedelic

No_Hindrance

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Ok so this is my first time posting on bluelight. I've been visiting the site for quite some time without actually contributing but after smoking DMT for the first time the other day I decided its time to be sociable.

My history of drug use: smoked weed mainly just on weekends for the past few years, rolled around 12 times during the past 9 months and have occasionally used speed, nitrous oxide (often on pill comedowns and while stoned) and ofcourse alcohol.

At present im half way to finishing a four year university degree and so have always made sure to keep my drug use under control. However, I have been becoming increasingly interested in psychedelics, mainly because I have always had an open mind and a some what allready trippy mind state and also because of some of the really intense experiences I have had with weed and nitrous oxide especially while coming down off a pill or meth.

I have a good friend M who is an experienced tripper and is one of the people i usually roll with and smoke up with and since doing pills he has told me alot about his own pyschedelic experiences with acid and shrooms. So for a while now I have been wanting to get some acid and trip with him but every time we have organised to trip it has fallen thru. Acid seems to have become hard to obtain up here. Anyway on good friday we decided to drive down to nimbin (about one hour south of where i live) in my car. If you havent heard of it its basically a cool little hippy town where everyone lives off the government and you get asked if you want weed by every second person. After asking around a bit we find that noone seems to have any acid for us except one old guy who said he didnt have any tabs but that he had liquid. Anyway M was a bit sus that it would just be water or something because he has been ripped off alot before so we declined his offer and went into a herb store. M has done DMT before and has told me alot about it and so we decided that if we couldnt get acid we would try and get DMT. So we asked the woman behind the counter if she had some and she said she didnt have the extract but had some leaf. So we thought what the hell we'll get it. M said it wouldnt be as intense as the extract.

So we drive all the way back up the coast and park in an empty carpark to smoke this DMT leaf. M is sus that it isnt going to do anything and says he will go first to see if its real. He packed a bit into his pipe, lit it and sucked it all in. In a matter of seconds I saw his body do a small shudder and then he burst out laughing before going into an eye wobbling state and rolling his head around. Then he just seemed to be passed out for a while. Well I knew it would be doing something after seeing this so i packed myself a cone of it and drew it in and held. its hard for me to explain what happened next. I held the smoke in for about 10 seconds then i felt my heart rate go right up. I felt extremely relaxed yet physically tense at the same time, i tried putting the pipe down but dropped it because my arm was shaking. i closed my eyes and all of a sudden i saw the most intense visuals i could never have even imagined before i tried this. my body did not exist anymore, i couldnt feel it or see it. what i could see was this stunningly beautiful and in perfect clarity, red, green and blue patterned tunnel that i was looking thru, at the end of it seemed to be just darkness. this tunnel was very slowly rotating and the texture of it was just amazing i could not believe it. i remember screaming out "what the fuck???!!!" it was like being in a 3d movie where u wear those glasses because i felt i could just jump into the tunnel, like it was right in front of me or perhaps i was part of it because i could not feel my body. i then tried to move through this tunnel towards the dark hole at the end and this is where i cannot remember any more. M said i came to about 5mins later. for about another 20mins i still had some mild sort of visual distortions eg. i thought the car was moving and the seats moving backwards act.

an hour later we are back at a friend's house so we can let him try some. this is when i had my second hit of it. this time it was even more warped and i think it is because the tv was on. once again i had these stunning visuals that just looked too real and once again i could not feel my body but this time instead of the tunnel i could see these jelly baby shaped beings that were different colours standing in a semi cirle around me with long arms and very long fingers beckoning at me. it was all very mellow, they moved very slowly. they did not look like a human or creature, they were just 3d shaped in the form of like a penguin/human/jellybaby and they were different colours. they started poking me in the chest and then i realised i could feel them doing it i opened my eyes and i could still feel the tips of their fingers on my chest untill i rubbed the sensations away. i was still really tripping. when i closed my eyes i kept seeing these same figures and i think it might have been some image on the tv that i saw just before i closed my eyes. when i did open my eyes and the ego loss was gone i felt like my body was 2d and that i was as thick as a sheet of paper. this resulted in me moving my arms and legs in a ridiculous manner wondering what the hell was going on, even when i looked down at my waist i looked 2d? i didnt know how long it had been, time didnt seem to exist in that it was just random. i couldnt put together any sequence of time at all, it could have been 5 seconds it could have been hours i had no idea at the time. few mins later M told me it had been aroun d 5-10mins. Anyway i wish i could explain this better, i probably could if I had the time but I have to get off the computer now thats why my writing has become a bit scrappy. I truly enjoyed this DMT experience and i am looking very forward to trying acid and shrooms. I will be posting within the next couple of weeks about my experiences. Thanks for reading if you got this far.
 
Brilliant mate, Do you know what the dmt leaf was e.g. psychotria viridis, phalaris arundicea (sp). Thats amzing your can gain that trip without smoking the extract and i must try this myself. Some Nitrous oxide wouldn't have gone miss though so get your hands on a cracker.

welcome to bluelight, thankyou for posting
 
Nice Report. If you missed anything because you had to get off the computer add it in. I am hoping to get some DMT in the near future and this report is nothing but encouraging. Also nice description of visuals and feeling, good ammount of detail.
 
Good report, but are you sure what you smoked wasn't salvia? I've never smoked DMT, but the description sounds quite a bit like many of the salvia trips i've had.
 
Im pretty sure it was DMT mainly due to the fact that my friend has had both salvia and DMT before and he said that it was DMT. Also, when we got it from the shop it came in a packet with the name of the tree on it black gum wattle or something which apparently is one of the tree that you get DMT from. However, i am inexperienced with all this stuff and could not honestly be sure what i smoked- im simply going off what my friend told me. Out of interest is salvia something i should try and get a hold of?
 
yea man, salvia is fucking WICKED! do it when ur stoned soooo much fun, its a real dreamy feeling, just try 5x or 10x extract first, and punch a few cones, will do u well, not to mention n2o on salvia is great!
hey nice report and if u remember any more details just edit your post and add them, we all here can never get enough of details!!

peace

p.s welcome!!!!!!!!! :D:D:D:D:D:D
 
I'm extremely skeptical that you smoked DMT... DMT in an active dose like that is 30-40mg+, a lot of material to smoke on its own, let alone in a leaf form...

It sounds more like salvia to me, minus the pulse increase... I'm skeptical. Can you find out the name of this leaf? This needs more investigation.

And - whether DMT or Salvia, I wouldn't want either for my first trip... anything else becomes nowhere near as amazing once you've had these two, minus E.
 
Im going back down to Nimbin tomorrow so I will try and find out if it was actually DMT leaf that I smoked or whether perhaps it was Salvia. I have heard a few people say the same thing as you that nothing else will compare after having DMT for a first trip. However, it is a very short trip and even though I lost sense of time when I came back to reality I realised I did not have enough time to truly analyse anything. I was more in a state of confusion, mainly because it was my first real trip. I agree that perhaps acid and shrooms will not be as intense, but they do offer a much more prolonged experience which i think is essential for my learning of the pyschedelic world as well as the ability to communicate with people while under the influence- something i could not do while tripping on the DMT or salvia if thats what it was.

Thanks for the input guys, its much appreciated as I have very little experience in pyschedelics.
 
What did it taste like?

If you smoked an un-extracted plant/root and actually got a trip off DMT I would be amazed. I would also want somma that =D

I agree, generally longer tips (shrooms, LSD, mescaline) are more productive because you actually have time to think about what's going on.
 
yes, i've had this stuff from Nimbin, it is definitely DMT, there are 2 types - the extract and the leaf form with plant shavings.

...apply to third eye...
 
the Nimbin elves are somewhat taciturn regarding the makeup of the magical blend, could be p.viridis but more likely a local acacia species of which there are too many to mention.

No_Hindrance, please ask for the botanical name - and pass on my happy regards to the blue eyed beauty.

BTW, i found Salvia frightening, heavy on the body, evil and lacking in mind-manifesting merit.
 
Hmmm... I'm still quite suspicious. You'd have to have a plant be at 10% DMT in order to smoke 400mg of it and get 40mg of DMT and that's a ridiculous amount to smoke in such a short time. I have a hard enough time smoking 40mg of pure DMT!
 
^don't know what sorta math you are smoking there MKat777, but 1-3 cones of the Nimbin mix had experienced travellers surfing the soup for 5-20 minutes.

granted, i did entertain the thought of a carrier plant material being impregnated with the acacia extract and dispersed through the blend...
 
jesus! dmt of all will certainly color your perception of any further psychedelics you try (I always thought LSD was a good starting point for anyone, but hey, i started on 2cb, so there's no denying the merit of variety ;) )

I strongly advise researching salvia before you dive into it, lest the machine world take you in 8o ;)
 
I find that the salvia extract is horrible it sends me to a place i don't really like: one that i find opressive. Its good to try but i feel other psyches are so much more valuable. In Jim Dekornes book he states that neophytes (new to shamanism) were started off on salvia leaf then morning glory or rivea corymbosa (sp?) and finally the magic mushroom which shows that the salvia was considerably less important. I havn't had any life-changing experiences on salvia i much prefer mushrooms + nos for that kind of revelation.

I read another report that stated when smoking dmt leaf on a trip on another substance the DMT visuals were most definitely there. It might be reasonable to expect that you would clearly see the effect of the leaf while under the influence of another longer-lasting psychedelic.

peace
 
It's not DMT leaf, it's DMT freebase absorbed onto a known quantity of herbal blend... there is Banisteriopsis caapi in the mix as well (the little brown twig-looking bits, I piqued on this when I tried seperating and smoking the different herbal components of the stuff on their own, and got a really strong 'aya effect' from it), apparently vaporized harmine is fully active in the brain in microgram levels so it's a 2+2=5 sorta situation (I've seen people on Effexor smoke the shit and while they were physiologically OK I think there was indeed a drug interaction, that wouldn't have happened with freebase only, so be careful)...

If I had to guess I'd say it's about 25% DMT by weight. I really quite liked that stuff, it's more like smokable ayahuasca than a straight DMT experience, which is always a bonus in my books. Easier to dose with than crystalline DMT, easier to smoke, much more portable, seems to be more entheogenic, organic, fluid, spirit-realmish than just straight DMT which can seem like Extraterrestrial C-SPAN at times. It has basically been compounded alchemically to be Damn Good ShitTM.

I found Salvia to be oppressive, terrifying, dissociative (more the PCP 'tearing your eyeballs out' myth-style than the usual k-style dissociation, btw), completely uninsightful, 'stupid' is a good word for it... being split into 23 pieces that need to be put back together on a hyperspatial assembly line by some weird Wiccan custodial chick was NOT my idea of entheogenesis! Although I admit I am intrigued by the asskicking... I'll probably re-explore, but it doesn't hold a twig to tryptamine consciousness IMHO - just because it 'fucks you up' more than say 5-MeO-DMT doesn't mean it's useful!
 
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^^Irate, you da man. thanks for clearing that up.

i concur entirely with your descriptions, both of the DMT mix and the Salvia.

the organic nature of the Damn Good Shit blend was wonderful, a fully integrational experience, and in a class of its own when it comes to potable smokables i reckon.

also tried separating into constituents, but got greedy every time ;-)
 
Irate_Scotsman said:
I found Salvia to be oppressive, terrifying, dissociative (more the PCP 'tearing your eyeballs out' myth-style than the usual k-style dissociation, btw), completely uninsightful, 'stupid' is a good word for it... being split into 23 pieces that need to be put back together on a hyperspatial assembly line by some weird Wiccan custodial chick was NOT my idea of entheogenesis! Although I admit I am intrigued by the asskicking... I'll probably re-explore, but it doesn't hold a twig to tryptamine consciousness IMHO - just because it 'fucks you up' more than say 5-MeO-DMT doesn't mean it's useful!

^hell yes. This is exactly how i feel about it...though I dont think salvia is worthless...im still rather quite intrigued by it's mystery's.

EDIT - 5-MEO-DMT has a lot more to offer if you can get used to the overwhelming egoloss.
 
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