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DMT - 1st experience - 50mg, First but not last time

JustChad

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DMT, 50mg - First but not last time...

OK... First of all, I've got to make this one point clear... I am not insane.

If you meet me, or know any of my close friends, you will know that with the exception of an occasional stress induced anxiety attack, I have no serious emotional problems, or notable forms of psychosis.

I've been interested in the power of the human brain for as long as I can remember, I've studied various mind-centered religions and beliefs, and have spent many hours in deep meditation.

With all that said, I'd like to tell you about my first experience with DMT. I think that anyone actually interested in
'Trip reports' would be interested to read it.

My first experience was in 1999, in a friend's appartment, alone except for him.
We each took 50mg in freebase form. Me first at 8:00pm, and him at 8:30pm. This is my experience:

For the day and a half before my experience, I fasted and meditated. I meditated for 30 minutes every 3 hours, clearing my mind as much as possible each time.

7:50pm : used US Postal Service approved scale to measure two 15mg piles of the pale pinkish powder, and one 20mg pile.

7:52-8:00 : meditated, this time focusing on allowing my mind to open itself to the experience I was about to have.

8:00-8:05: smoked the hit's in order: small large small (15mg, 20mg, 15mg) Only lost the smoke on the first hit (the smoke can't really be explained. It almost hurts it's so harsh)

8:05-8:06: At this point I was sure I was going insane, but did not focus on this thought. My body felt as if it was shaking and peeling away from my consciousness. I could hear childlike laughing, and what sounded like rubber shoes being dragged along a tile floor. These sounds got progressively louder until I was sure they were going to take me over. Just as I felt they were becomming too much for me, they stopped.

8:07-8:20: I found myself in a void. I couldn't feel my body, and felt as if I had died, and gone on to a higher existance. There were other consciousnesses present, though I was unsure if they were human or not, or even if they were those of others, or branches of my own that I'd never had the ability to sense. These consciousnesses helped me look at myself in ways impossible to fully explain. I was able to analyze my basic human condition from my current point of view, as well as the opposing position, and in two ways that I can't even fathom, let alone explain.

I came to understand that there is order to our existance, but not an order that is visible to our severely disabled minds. I could send thoughts to parts of my mind that I was generally unable to access when in a normal state of consciousness.

I began to hear other voices, but couldn't pick out any words that I understood. I started to hear voices I recognised, but couldn't match up with memories of who they belonged to. The voices started telling me that I was OK, and that I was going to be back soon.

With that, I started to see what looked like paint, swirling in front of my eyes. The paint started looking like snakes and vines climbing up the insides of my eyelids...

Finally they all eventually reached the top of my vision, and dissappeared, the next thing I knew, I was done.

It was about twenty after eight, and I felt shaky and enlightened. My arms felt sore, and my legs were weak, but I felt as though I'd experienced something I couldn't ever fully explain, or even want to fully share.

I continued to trip lightly for the next 20 minutes or so, but was sober enough to watch my friend and be sure that he was doing OK as he took his dose.

Anyway, I've spent much of my time trying to learn exactly how these chemicals work, and how synapses, seratonin, and receptor cells function, and can honestly say that if you are brave enough, you will never experience anything as mind altering and enlightening as a DMT trip...

However, if you have any tendancies to act neurotcally, or have suffered even the mildest of psychosises, you should NOT take this drug, as it has the ability to push someone over the edge, if they don't have good control over their mind, or are irrational when facing their fears. (feeling as though your body has died is quite scary, and can cause you to have seizures, or to cause a heart attack...)

So yeah... anyway... that's what I compare other trips to, and is why I say that salvia is a fairly mild experience as far as I'm concerned. No offense to those of you who've had great salvia experiences.


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NICE TRIP Report! Ive only done it once
but my roommate talked me into doing a 50 mg
dose at once. I cant even explain what happened. This happened april 15 1998 and ever since then I have been totaly frightened to grasp its power again.
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SOME TIME
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HAPPY TRIPPING
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awesome man, im soo happy to finally see a DMT trip report in BL! nice to know someone in our community is venturing off into the wild!
You've got balls of steel id have to say, ive had a whole gram of the stuff sitting in the back of my closet for the last 3 months, and i just wanted to take a small taste at 20mg. to make sure it was real, based on taste, way it burnt, smell and any small effects. Well I thought my heart was going to explode out of my chest cuz it was beating so fast and furious before i lit the glass pipe. I was sooooo freaked out, i think mainly because i had been searching for dmt for so long and i finally had the most powerful tripping machine in my hands!
Needless to say, i had some small perifial vision effects from it since i think i only got about 15mg of it, but it sure tasted and smelled like everyone says it does, so when i get the balls to finally do it, this board will be the first to know!
Mad props to you buddy!
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Well, I've done it once since the first time, and can say that I was pretty sure the second time was going to be the last. It was somewhat more controlable, yet scarier at the same time.
I'm actually planning on another 50mg trip this summer, but haven't gotten up the gutts to do it yet.
For anyone who takes it, I have to say, seriously consider meditation as your primary form of preparation... This is NOT an easy drug to handle, but you WILL come out of it being a different, more "in tune" person. You will learn more about yourself, and existance, in thirty seconds than you would if you lived a hundred years.
This is NOT a social drug. It's an introspective, self/mind expanding chemical. I recommend having one or two people present to watch you and monitor you.
DO NOT take DMT if you have high bloodpressure, or heart problems. When you smoke DMT, your heart rate raises, due to anxiety, as well as increased neuroelectonic activity. ( I know your heart beat isn't controled by your brain, but it is effected by it. )
Anyway, if you decide to do this drug, feel free to email me, I'd love to help you decide where, when, and how to do it.
As for dosage, I don't know if you need the full 50mg, but I recommend it for the full effects. The highest recommended dose is 55-60mg, and I'm not sure I would be able to handle that.
Anyway, I'm glad you liked the report... I think anyone who's done extensive experimentation with acid or other hallucinogens would benefit greatly from this drug, however, if you just want to get really mind fucked, I recommend a few ten strips. You get the same amount of trip that way, only spread out over 15-20 hours instead of a 20 hour trip compressed into a half hour of extreme mental overload.
 
hey man, i notices you mention the high amount of anxiety when using dmt, i noticed a extremely high amount, i thought i was gonna have a heart attack. You think it would be helpfull to possibly take a couple valium or xanax before the trip to calm the nerves?
 
Not really...
The biggest thing is to make sure you prepare yourself mentally... It's a sorta scary thing taking something known for being so overwhelming...
I recommend sitting against a wall and breathing really slowly, and deeply... Try to calm yourself before taking your first hit.
DMT WILL raise your heartrate quite a bit though. People I know have said that it felt like it was going to burst... I think you're only in danger if you have a bad heart, or high blood pressure.
As far as valiu or xanex... I really think you'd limit the experience... but I'm not sure. You may end up gettin more fucked up than you can handle.
I DO NOT recommend mixing DMT with other drugs... But that's just based on what I've heard, and read...
 
yeah, i hear that. I told my friend who is going to do the 50mg. with me next month, that we have to go to this dude who will teach us how to meditate properly, cuz i know thats the only way ill be able to handle the experience, and unfortunately i dont know the first thing about meditatting, all i know how to do it sit still for a few moments and breath slowly, haha.
 
You don't need to be taught....
Yoga sutra meditation is a simple three stage process. Many people never actually reach the second stage, let alone the third...
The first stage is where you concentrate your thoughts... It's called dharana. This is actually the hardest stage, because your mind is still open to outside stimuli. What I do in this stage is usually lean against a wall, or something solid, with my back pretty straight... I think about a candle flame... you know, like picture it in my mind. I then breath as evenly as I can, and concentrate on the flame. Every time another thought tries to occupy my mind, I consciously refocus on the candle. The longer you practice, the easier it will be to concentrate on it. Your goal is to get to the point where you are not thinking. Your mind stops trying to concentrate on the candle, because all there is is the candle. Do you understand that?
Once you get to this point, you've entered the second stage. (You don't even need to get this far to prepare for your trip... the first stage is soothing enough, but it's good to try to meditate, so I'll continue..)
The second stage is called dhyana, or the meditation state... In this state, your mind can move freely around whatever you're concentrating on, but no other thoughts enter the mind. You can examine your image (in my case, the flame) and manipulate it mentally without loosing grasp of it...
This stage can last anywhere from a fraction of a second to many hours. The longer you can stay in dhyana without sliding back to dharana, the closer you come to the third and final stage, samadhi...
Samadhi is sort of the point of "enlightenment" where you become one with your mind (consciousness, not brain) and have complete control over your thoughts, and mind. It's very hard to get there... I've been meditating for years, and can concentrate very easily, but have only glimpsed the last stage for a fraction of a second a few times.
Sorry to have turned this into a "Spirituality & Personal Philosophy" caliber post, but I think it will be beneficial to you and your friend to try it out...
 
AWESOME response! i love it. Im copying all of what you said and printing it out for my DMT experience.
Thank-you so much for posting that buddy, it will be truly helpful when the time comes!
 
This is one of the most enlightening discussions I have read. So little said, yet so much conveyed.
Also, well done in your respectful, aware and disciplined approach to DMT. I am sure my words cannot measure what the experience brought to you.
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i've got approximately 40mgs so i want to get everything i can from it. i've got a regular (homemade) bong or a light bulb to do it in. i've done it once before but didn't get enough smoke in one go. if i use the lightbulb will it fill competely. last time the DMT (in sticky red goo form) took ages to produce all of its smoke. how long should i wait before toking the lot or can i do it in a couple of passes?
 
Thank you very much Leprechaun. I like to think that I'm an intelligent drug user; if there is such a thing. Your comments are appreciated.
eight: I don't actually recommend a lightbulb... the second time I smoked DMT, we used a bulb. There was really no noticeable benefit... I recommend either a freebasing pipe, or a pirex bowl. (a new one, not one that's been used for smoking pot)
Either way you need something REALLY clean, with a carb. You want the hit to go as quickly and smoothly as possible.
~chad
 
thanks i did it (foolishly using a lightbulb), didn't hyperspace, but my hand did a full tracer thing and the afterglow, phew! if DMT were more available i would be doing it all the time. now to find some more...
 
Awesome!

Some decent information about DMT in this thread too.
 
Yum. 50mg single hit of DMT is my favorite. You really need a glass pipe so you can:
a) Chase the vapour up the pipe
b) See how much your toking
c) Cool it so it doesn't burn so much

The Dutch call it 'hippy crack' which I think sums it up pretty well. I just toke until I cannot see straight & get the annoying whistling noise in my ears (tinitus is quite common). Then I go into a totally dark/silent room and escape my body for 15 minutes. I don't think it's a sociable drug since everyone is in their own universe. Beware of scum cutting 5-MeO into it to make more cash! The body load of pure DMT is somewhere around 0. If you feel body load;kill the dealer...
 
Why try to find someone who is selling DMT? There are plenty of methods on the net explaining simple acid/base extraction using cheap ass mimosa root bark (around 25 US dollars for 4 oz). It really is easy, if you have a little patience and can read.

This way one never has to worry about 5-MeO DMT, although that is another interesting adventure altogether in itself.

Ok, real quick - If N,N, DMT is similar to a NDE, what the hell is 5-MeO DMT similar to? Definatly closest to death I have ever experienced. Definate heavy body load. I Never feel that way on straight DMT. DMT is always inviting in a way but still scary as fucking hell every time, just like 5-MeO is. But since I love a vividly visual experience, DMT is always my choice. It is by far my all time favorite tryptamine.

I have been humbled by both these 2 substances and can't express the love and praise I give to these spiritual meds. Treat them well, and they will treat you the same in return.

Have fun
Be Safe
Come Back
 
5MeO is much easier to produce. You can do it in 3 simple steps from melatonin. DMT on the other hand requires some very smelly & (with the high yielding routes) dsngerous chemicals. I went with indole 3 benzaldehyde via nitromethane. Reduced with Red Al & methylated with MeI. Dequat still stinks (I've tried ethanoamine, triethanolamine and others). It's a cow to crystalize as well. Experience shows ethyl acetate does the best work. Yellow-Brown amorphous crystals with that particular odour...
 
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