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Meth DM/Telegram Vender AI Bot Community Engineering and Misinformation

Methamphetanonymous

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If you watch the landscape of drug community platforms especially on Reddit, there's been a disturbing trend of dozens of brand new throwaway accounts appearing daily in order to present misinformation with the illusion that the majority of the community shares the misinformation belief.

After some undercover snooping and baiting for the last month or two, I've realized that the accounts are typically programed ChatGPT or other AI programed bots attempting to convey a sense of widespread disappointment and distrust in the safety and quality of a certain drug. They're operated by Dark Net and Telegram market vendors (several of whom I am certain I have traced back to but am still on the lookout for evidence that can be demonstrated) who then show up to these communities sharing posts titled "Afrer Weeks of this N-isopropylbenzylamine and racemic Mexican bullshit I finally found the big bad cook who's selling the old stuff" with a picture of an implied pure and clean product (in the examples at the end they show images of what is clearly not methamphetamine and looks more like asbestos? A quartz or marble garden stone??? Which adds to my curiosity of wtf this is all about)


This new spin on old tricks guerilla marketing has been rampent in methamphetamine communities all over the internet for shit... two years at least (and the N-isopropylbenzylamine hoax also started as a cash grab gift almost 12 years ago)

Like N-isopropylbenzylamine my issue with these people is that the disinformation that they lean into so heavily includes actual dangerous lies about powerful drugs that can and actually has gotten people seriously hurt. One of these operations is the most bizarre shit I've ever seen from a "Cook13" which is a methamphetamine forum that appears to be one single person having fake conversations with themselves for hundreds of posts including ones where the user marked Admin an authority source says things like "Meth is a healing and life improving medicine it only harms if you're stupid." "Methamphetamine is not capable of causing acute fatal injury at any dose" "D-meth has no cardiovascular side effects" and implications that the documented data describing the ways meth induces neurotoxicity are a hoax. Oh an N-isopropylbenzylamine everywhere.


And here are a few sample posts of suspicious accounts and suspicious images on Reddit:






Anyways I bring it up one because it's no secret that I've hated these people's guts since I first began research for my book before I ever tried methamphetamine even. Spreading fake information intentionally to a group of individuals at risk of paranoia isolation and doubt on what to trust is fucking vile regardless of if the info is relevant to harm reduction. But they double down and also spread false information about "real old school dextromethamphetamine" having a flawless safety profile, being capable of safe and efficient use daily forever, and share fake or bunk steps in synthesis instructions to naive users wanting to learn, some of which would be potentially lethal or at least would draw police attention.

I mean, there's not much I can do now but maybe exposing the grift will eventually force them to back off until they find some other scumbag shit to try. They're just trying to foster a belief that all the meth in the world is fake except theirs, and their meth has only positive effects and is safer than weed.

Haven't seen this going on on Bluelight yet... but be wary I've definitely noticed that they're now starting to target opioid users and I have great skepticism on certain claims about heroins so called return. Be aware, and hopefully this helps keep them away from this community at least


[Crystal meth samples from law enforcement seizures in every country with a significant market and user population consistently tests as being composed of entirely the potent psychostimulant dextrorotary isomer (99% of crystal meth samples are purely d-meth in the last 4 years) and are between 90-95% purity with often 2-4% MSM present for its reported enhancement of the overall glossy and clear crystals

N-isopropylbenzylamine was never a meaningful chemical in meths history and was present in statically approximately zero meth samples globally. Racemic meth is as far as I can see never sold on the street (but a handful of times pure L-meth was funny enough)]
 
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Researching N-isopropylbenzylamine now. Thanks for posting!! I had myself in a pretty bad place due to a Reddit acquaintance some time ago and maybe this is the answer to what was wrong. Was very scary actually 😖
 
Researching N-isopropylbenzylamine now. Thanks for posting!! I had myself in a pretty bad place due to a Reddit acquaintance some time ago and maybe this is the answer to what was wrong. Was very scary actually 😖
Start with the Wikipedia page and the endless fields of [Citation Needed]

It's a chain isomer of meth that does nothing, combusts and doesn't melt, can't co crystalize with meth, and doesn't even resemble meth in person. It's not present as a cutting agent because it'd be a garbage cutter and manufacturers already have MSM which is much more useful to cut meth shards with
 
Start with the Wikipedia page and the endless fields of [Citation Needed]

It's a chain isomer of meth that does nothing, combusts and doesn't melt, can't co crystalize with meth, and doesn't even resemble meth in person. It's not present as a cutting agent because it'd be a garbage cutter and manufacturers already have MSM which is much more useful to cut meth shards with
Holy shit this is exactly what it was. Looked cloudy. Even got really sick- nausea and vomiting. Hallucinations and memory impairment :blkitty::
 
Holy shit this is exactly what it was. Looked cloudy. Even got really sick- nausea and vomiting. Hallucinations and memory impairment :blkitty::
Yeah my joke there was that even the Wikipedia page acknowledges that N-isopropylbenzylamine's properties are fabricated, it does not do anything symptomatic to humans and it's not used to cut meth


As it happens meth causes nausea and vomiting all the time. Famously meth induces hallucinations under certain conditions, and if sleep deprived or overdosing lapses in memory is common

You got methamphetamine, and overdosed on it
 
Weirdly
Yeah my joke there was that even the Wikipedia page acknowledges that N-isopropylbenzylamine's properties are fabricated, it does not do anything symptomatic to humans and it's not used to cut meth


As it happens meth causes nausea and vomiting all the time. Famously meth induces hallucinations under certain conditions, and if sleep deprived or overdosing lapses in memory is common

You got methamphetamine, and overdosed on it
didn’t taste like it. Also was brown immediately. But maybe you’re right. It wasn’t the same hallucinations I’ve had on it before. Could be that I fried my brain back then a little lol :cringe:
 
Weirdly

didn’t taste like it. Also was brown immediately. But maybe you’re rigt
In my experience, because meth is an extremely water soluable salt even the slightest bit of H20 from heavy air humidity, rinsing out a pipe and some micro droplets remain, maybe touching the shard with sweaty hands... the hydrochloride salt absorbs and clings to that water content


I tested this theory, added a droplet of water to an 8 ball of meth that I had knowledge of its synthesis source and purity and sure enough it gave the meth a slight unpleasant odor, and an unpleasant vapor taste. The puddle took a moment or two longer than it should to refreeze, and did so in a disorganized almost slushy pattern.

I use a tea candle to warm my meth pipe, and even with a flame as gentle as possible it turned piss yellow on the first melt.

I air dried the product that night and placed a silica gel packet in with the shards. Come morning, I smoked about a .05 and it melted and cracked back flawlessly, with no taste at all
 
If you watch the landscape of drug community platforms especially on Reddit, there's been a disturbing trend of dozens of brand new throwaway accounts appearing daily in order to present misinformation with the illusion that the majority of the community shares the misinformation belief.

After some undercover snooping and baiting for the last month or two, I've realized that the accounts are typically programed ChatGPT or other AI programed bots attempting to convey a sense of widespread disappointment and distrust in the safety and quality of a certain drug. They're operated by Dark Net and Telegram market vendors (several of whom I am certain I have traced back to but am still on the lookout for evidence that can be demonstrated) who then show up to these communities sharing posts titled "Afrer Weeks of this N-isopropylbenzylamine and racemic Mexican bullshit I finally found the big bad cook who's selling the old stuff" with a picture of an implied pure and clean product (in the examples at the end they show images of what is clearly not methamphetamine and looks more like asbestos? A quartz or marble garden stone??? Which adds to my curiosity of wtf this is all about)


This new spin on old tricks guerilla marketing has been rampent in methamphetamine communities all over the internet for shit... two years at least (and the N-isopropylbenzylamine hoax also started as a cash grab gift almost 12 years ago)

Like N-isopropylbenzylamine my issue with these people is that the disinformation that they lean into so heavily includes actual dangerous lies about powerful drugs that can and actually has gotten people seriously hurt. One of these operations is the most bizarre shit I've ever seen from a "Cook13" which is a methamphetamine forum that appears to be one single person having fake conversations with themselves for hundreds of posts including ones where the user marked Admin an authority source says things like "Meth is a healing and life improving medicine it only harms if you're stupid." "Methamphetamine is not capable of causing acute fatal injury at any dose" "D-meth has no cardiovascular side effects" and implications that the documented data describing the ways meth induces neurotoxicity are a hoax. Oh an N-isopropylbenzylamine everywhere.


And here are a few sample posts of suspicious accounts and suspicious images on Reddit:






Anyways I bring it up one because it's no secret that I've hated these people's guts since I first began research for my book before I ever tried methamphetamine even. Spreading fake information intentionally to a group of individuals at risk of paranoia isolation and doubt on what to trust is fucking vile regardless of if the info is relevant to harm reduction. But they double down and also spread false information about "real old school dextromethamphetamine" having a flawless safety profile, being capable of safe and efficient use daily forever, and share fake or bunk steps in synthesis instructions to naive users wanting to learn, some of which would be potentially lethal or at least would draw police attention.

I mean, there's not much I can do now but maybe exposing the grift will eventually force them to back off until they find some other scumbag shit to try. They're just trying to foster a belief that all the meth in the world is fake except theirs, and their meth has only positive effects and is safer than weed.

Haven't seen this going on on Bluelight yet... but be wary I've definitely noticed that they're now starting to target opioid users and I have great skepticism on certain claims about heroins so called return. Be aware, and hopefully this helps keep them away from this community at least


[Crystal meth samples from law enforcement seizures in every country with a significant market and user population consistently tests as being composed of entirely the potent psychostimulant dextrorotary isomer (99% of crystal meth samples are purely d-meth in the last 4 years) and are between 90-95% purity with often 2-4% MSM present for its reported enhancement of the overall glossy and clear crystals

N-isopropylbenzylamine was never a meaningful chemical in meths history and was present in statically approximately zero meth samples globally. Racemic meth is as far as I can see never sold on the street (but a handful of times pure L-meth was funny enough)]
 
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ANYBODY can edit wikipedia page, so it's not the most reliable source.
I personally get stuff from COOK13 for over a year now and you will not find anything even close to his product quality, so I believe he knows what he is talking about.
And yes - GOOD meth IMPROVED my life!! I used to get stuff from the streets and was slowly going down straight to the bottom, but now I am higher than I ever was! And by higher I mean in my life!
I have a great job and started getting some good money because GOOD meth is like a GOOD coffee, only 20 times stronger LOL and it makes me work like a machine.
Taking all vitamins he recommended also helped me A LOT. So the dude is just a LIFE SAVER.
And it's not only my opinion, but the dude is respected by PLENTY of people as I noticed already. They pretty much worship him and it's because HE DESERVES IT.

Also- here is the article from his website about N-ISO toxicity, which is also backed up by a MUCH GREATER and RELIABLE source than wikipedia.
n-isopropylbenzylamine-toxicity
You don't sound like a shill at all...
 
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