Codeine is just way better than dhc as has been mentioned I Get a lot of shit because I take codeine recreationally and for some reason most people find it 'garbage' yet dhc does abosolutely nothing enjoyable it makes me wanna do things when I dont wanna do things when I just wanna get ass shitfaced as possible until im literaly nodding out into oblivion and forget everything for a bit
That does make sense, and a while ago when the pain was a little bit better, I would wash down one or more paracetamol with codeine 60 mg tablets, naproxen, cyclobenzaprine, and quinine ,and it worked very well, and the onset was gorgeous especially when washed down with Coca-Cola or Sprite on an empty stomach, almost as if I did an SC shot of it or even IV . . . in a couple of years the doctors rotated me on to dihydrocodeine & hydroxyzine or tripelennamine + orphenadrine + naproxen, which was nice, then hydrocodone. All three, especially the hydrocodone, worked very nicely with carisoprodol or meprobamate 90 minutes for before bedtime . . of course back in the day, there was no substitute for Loads aka Dors & Fours, glutethimide + paracetamol with codeine, which feels like shooting up taken on an empty stomach, and doing this combination replacing the codeine with thebacon in particular was very euphoric.
Codeine is certainly underestimated and I know of people who had no idea it worked as well as it did and even more uniformed about the possibility that it could be potentiated like with antihistamines and number of other drugs in several categories, and they say it made them feel better, but codeine neat also has pleasant and efficacious effect -- more evidence that analgesia and euphoria are part of a single process on the body, albeit a complex one.
Caeteris paribus, the liver turns 12 per cent or so of codeine into morphine, the queen of strong oral narcotics as codeine is for the weak ones, both for clinical and unsupervised self-medication use as well as recreation, whereas about 1 per cent of dihydrocodeine is turned to dihydromorphine. Whilst dihydromorphine hits harder and lasts longer and is more euphoric than morphine,, the absoute quantity in one's system makes that difference.
Especially if headaches are the issue or a major co-morbid component, adding caffeine to the mixture whether it be in tablets, soft drinks or whatever. 100 mg seems to work well for lots of folks. No later than five hours before going to sleep, of course, unless the doctor says to do so, or if one has come up with a workable protocol for the nighttime doses in cases of headache.
Also, I think that there is not an apples to apples conversion with codeine and dihydrocodeine, but rather apples and pears, or oranges and grapefruit . . . are categories of the natural and semi-synthetic narcotics so some feel more alike than others and others not as much. The differences amongst codeine-morphine conversion come from individual metabolism including Cytochrome P450 levels, and other drugs, with glutethimide, quinidine, betamethasone, and promethazine causing a lot more to be turned into morphine, whereas others including some SSRIs can lessen the conversion.
- morphine
- morphine derivatives including codeine and whole opium products.
- dihydromorphine derivatives
- morphine esters like smack and nicomorphine
- ketones, specifically 14-dihydromorphinones like hydrocodone and hydromorphone
- morphides, e.g. chloromorphide
- morphazones e.g. oxymorphazone
- miscellaneous morphine derivatives like desomorphine
- ethers of morphine like codeine, dionine, benzylmorphine (as opposed to dibenzoylmorphine, an ester of morphine several times stronger than morphine)
- morphine, codeine, hydromorphone and other amine oxides/nitrogen derivatives
- antagonists like nalodeine, nalorphine, naloxone, naltrexone, nalorphine dinicotinate, diacetylnalorphine &c
- morphols like hydromorphinol
- drugs made by fusing another drug onto morphine, such as 2,4-dinitrophenylmorphine
- others
As with the example of diacetyldihydromorphine, a drug can be in more than one group