Heroin Difficulty IV'ing

[TheManWithNoName]

Wow, Auralee thanks so much for the help! I skipped my doctor appointment because after I slept for a little bit my legs stopped tingling. I also had to go Manhattan to go see Al Kooper's 67th Birthday bash at BB Kings. I put the last stamp I had in a nasal spray bottle with a little water after I filtered it through a syringe(this product is bad compared to the usual one shot the cotton is brown, the others you could not even tell) I'm gonna wait to see how I feel I have IMed a lot and in the past as well and it has never lead to anything serious but you never know. I just got some OC 80's. The new ones suck so I just grind them real fine cook them in a spoon till there light brown scrape the spoon and eat, I was thinking about injecting them but with the new OP's and my lack of experience I decided against it.

I was looking up a guide to purifying the H and it seems slightly complicated. I would like to be able to IM the purifying dope because I know thats ok. Anyone have a simple way to do this?

 

[lmc422]

TheManWithNoName:
Theres no way to inject the new OC OP's. Not even worth the agrevation of trying. I use them when I run out of Morphine and I just chew and swallow them. I really only use them so I dont get sick. Not to get high but I do catch a rather nice buzz. plus I turn into a cleaning freak. Im already a cleaning freak but I get 10x as much done! lol. Theres some 'teqniques' on this site on how to prepare the OP's for injection but I honestly do not think they work what so ever. And if your gonna eat them dont grind and cook them. Just chew and swallow. OR you can do the Coca-Cola thing. Look it up on here. I havent tried it yet but the next time I get them I will. Says it makes them into instant relaese. Do you live in new england area? Im in CT. Where are you? Hey Email me [email protected]

 

[TheManWithNoName]

lmc422, I live on Long Island in Nassau County. I tried the Coca cola thing but it didn't seem to work. Apparently you have to microwave the soda and then put the product in a let it sit and then mic it again. Am I wrong? I tried it with orange crush and it didn't seem to work much better than than heating method. I just really hate these OP's. There the main reason I went back to H. My favorite are still percs though.

 

[lmc422]

lmc422, I live on Long Island in Nassau County. I tried the Coca cola thing but it didn't seem to work. Apparently you have to microwave the soda and then put the product in a let it sit and then mic it again. Am I wrong? I tried it with orange crush and it didn't seem to work much better than than heating method. I just really hate these OP's. There the main reason I went back to H. My favorite are still percs though.

oh ur close to me! Im in Fairfield county, CT. My old sub doc lives in nassau county. And he has an office there. he is also a good Pain management doc. Considering thats what he specializes in. He RX'ed me subs, xanys and soma. LOL strage combo but he was treating me for an accident too. I no longer am a patient of his. anyway the coca-cola thing is u really have to use the coke. and i think its only heating it one time and then u have to let it sit over night so that all the waxy shit disolves and the good stuff comes out. Ill look up again the method I use and post up a link for you. It really works! I swear or I wouldnt suggest it.

 

[ATLien88]

If you are using east coast #4 heroin, stop cooking it. East coast powder requires no heat, you are simply adding in more cut to your shot as Georgie said

Heroin helper is not the gospel of shooting dope, and different types of heroin require different kinds of prep. Heroin base requires heat and citric acid, however I doubt you are shooting base

I know that this is true in theory, but I've come across dope that doesn't want to fully dissolve with just water. I'll break the rock down and put water on it, but there will be little pieces that just don't want to dissolve. I add a little heat, and we're rolling again.

 

[edtree]

^^

What isn't right? All heroin in the U.S (where I'm from) is water soluble (#4, black tar), so adding heat is not necessary and by doing so you're just dissolving more of the non-soluble material into your shot.. I see you're not from the U.S though, and am aware that the U.K/Europe/etc get #3 heroin, which needs citric acid and heat to dissolve it for IV. I was just refering to the heroin we get here. %)

Hey Georgie25 Howzit bruz! No, I'm referring to the bacteria. Heroinhelper.com (U.S.) recommends that you should cook it no matter the type as you will get rid of a lot of bacterial strands (not all). I really think this is good advice HR wise because of the way the shit is handled. Cool of course we don't always have the time but it's kinda like surfing with someone else to lessen the chance of a shark attack : )
Hari Om
edtree
Point taken about the cut though. Crap with a loaded dice aint it ; )

 

[k.dre]

lmc422, I live on Long Island in Nassau County. I tried the Coca cola thing but it didn't seem to work..

So lame, I typed out this long private message to you TMWNN but then it told me I couldn't send it because I was a greenlighter. Hmm you would think it could have told me that before I typed it out huh? haha.

Anyways, the general point of my msg was you are a lot closer to me than I thought. You're still pretty far but I thought I didn't realize you were in NY; I'm in MA, close to Springfield.

Frankly it sounds like youre pretty close and you just need someone to show you and refine some areas of your technique.

Kevin

 

[TheManWithNoName]

Wow! I just got some Coca cola and microwaved it for 45 seconds crushed up and 80 OP in a pill grinder, let it sit for an hour and a half, and wow. My pupils were still restricted from a shot I did a few hours earlier, but I was mostly sober. This has saved my life. I tried it once with Fanta (it was the only soda I had and someone incorrectly posted that any soda should work) and microwaved it while the product was in it and it just gelled up and it felt even weaker. I still love the rush of shooting up but within 10 minute it drops significantly for me. I always liked OC's and percs more even if I had really good dope because for me at least I got more euphoria from it. Perhaps because I know my doses and can take more and not be as anxious about overdosing.

 

[lmc422]

Yea I cant message either! sorry I cant message u back noname. Ill email you. But U have figured out the coke method. and it worked right? anyway Ill be email u in a bit.

 

[k.dre]

I dont think this technique was posted so I'm adding it.

Instead of using something to tie off with, try finding a chair/stool that has a very narrow back to it so that you can put the top of the chair back into your armpit. If you and the stool / chair match heights well then you can just get on your knees and that will settle the chair / stool back into your armpit just perfectly. If the heights are off, then adjust accordingly so you have good pressure in your armpit.

Sooooooooo.....then turn your palm out so that your arm "inside" is facing as outward as possible. The veins in your arm crook will hopefully become definite as well of course the veins in your wrist and hand will really firm up.

Follow the injection techniques to register and shoot and voila!

This technique is nice because you don't have to deal with a typical tourniquet. It's very easy to reduce the pressure once the needle is registered. I don't think tournie's are easy to use and I try to avoid using them unless my veins just don't wanna jump out and be seen.

 

[TheManWithNoName]

Yea the coke method works. I have another problem. I got some more dope and am trying to IV and I think I am in the vein and when I pull back the plunger it comes down again, and if I hold it up no blood comes up? Sometimes this happens sometimes it doesnt? Am I doing something wrong?

 

[lmc422]

while ur holding the plunger pulled back and no blood comes up, keep holding it bulled back and fish for the vein. move it in further, out a little, not all the way out tho, when pulling it out (not all the way out of ur arm) move it towards the left or right till u find the vein or till when the blood comes in. and keep it in that spot. DONT MOVE IT ONCE THE BLOOD CAME IN. Then to make sure ur in draw back just a little again. if more blood comes in, INJECT!!!!

 

[lmc422]

Yea the coke method works. I have another problem. I got some more dope and am trying to IV and I think I am in the vein and when I pull back the plunger it comes down again, and if I hold it up no blood comes up? Sometimes this happens sometimes it doesnt? Am I doing something wrong?

So if u have a prob with the plunger falling back down you HAVE TO HOLD IT THERE! Fish for the vein if the barrel doesnt fill up with blood at first attempt. Dont take the needle out of ur arm. Go fishing for the vein by moving it slowly back a little, in a little or little more, pull the needle out(not out of ur arm) and back in towrds the left or to the right till you find the vein(when blood fills the barrel). But do this slowly. And do not take the needle out of ur arm while doing this. AND KEEP THE PLINGER PULLED BACK AND HOLD IT IN PLACE SO IT DOESNT FALL DOWN! and once u fianlly do hit the vein and blood fills the barrel stay in that spot DO NOT MOVE THE NEEDLE ANYMORE! and double check that ur in the vein by pulling back just a tiny bit to see if blood enters the barrel again. If it does, INJECT!![/SIZE][/SIZE]!!

 

[TheManWithNoName]

I go that down lmc422 but why sometimes does the plunger stay in place? When it does I find it easier to hit the vein because the suction is already there. Is there something I am doing that makes the plunger retract? Is anyone aware of this?

 

[lmc422]

@themanwithnoname- I sent you an email. I see ur online now but u havent responded yet. I keeep noding. lol So im going to go pass out now. Email me back. and ill post the coca-cola method in the morning once I find the right one. Sorry, Im too high to look right now with one eye open. lol. GN!

 

[lmc422]

I go that down lmc422 but why sometimes does the plunger stay in place? When it does I find it easier to hit the vein because the suction is already there. Is there something I am doing that makes the plunger retract? Is anyone aware of this?

No it happens to me too. sometimes it stays sometimes it doesnt. Nothing ur doing wrong to make that happen. So even when u do have to hold it in place the suction is still there. I dont know why it does it sometimes and sometimes not. Beats me! I just role with the punches and hold it in place. I know its a pain in the ass tho. check ur email and write back. Its kinda long bc I ramble when im buzzin nice!%)

 

[TheManWithNoName]

Ok, now were in business. I found a vein that I'm hitting every time. It's about two inches from the crook of my elbow towards my hand. Problem is theres not much skin/fat right there as it is right on my forearm muscle. I put a bundle in it today. I went up and down there two inches and believe I feel out of the vein just once. It just get's bruised real bad, is this normal? It is also swollen and sore. Obviously, I am going to let it heal probably till Friday night. I have a heating pad I always put on after injection, and I use Neosporin on the needle marks. Anything else anyone can recommend? By the way, where can I get a a tourniquet at a brick and mortar store. I don't want to order offline (unless someone knows a super awesome tourniquet that is only available online ) Thanks

 

[TheManWithNoName]

Fuck my life! Just got robbed. I met this kid at a tire place on Friday, he was sick so I gave him my last stamp, the next day he drops of two for me, a little more $ than I usually pay but it was like double the count and good. So today he asks if I can get stuff, then he messages me he can and its a bundle minimum and I know we can't discuss price but let's just say it was exactly in between xxx pesos. Expensive, I know but I was fiending and since I usually pay 2/3 of that for stuff thats not as good and less count it was worth it at the time. I get in the car go to the bank to get money, then the other kid he's with "guy" calls him says he doesn't want anyone to come. Obviously the kid has to drive, they say ok give us the money and we'll drop it off later. I'm not that stupid so I said no, lets just do it another day. The kid offered me his wallet with his license and credit cards in it, and in retrospect I should have just took that and waited at my house. Then he said you can come but you gotta wait around the block. On the way there I mention that I can hook the kid up next time for driving me (I figured he was pocketing at least xxanyway). They drop me off at this gas station and it was supposed to be 5-10 mins max. I kept texting/calling him with no response, obviously I had been fucked over. I threatened to call the cops on him and he calls me back and says he took it because I didn't offer him anything for driving me (it was on the way and I gave him a free stamp two days before) I sit at the gas station and wait for a ride from a friend then I'm like hey what the hell I'll call the cops anyway what's the worst that could happen. I call them and tell them someone robbed me at knife point for $(....) for stereo equipment. The cops come like twenty mins later. They obviously didn't believe it was for a car stereo because I'm young, 21 and I probably look like a drug user (was on an 80 at the time but OP so nahh...) I got the kids plate when he was driving away just in case and they say it on the camera at the gas station. They put me in the back of the truck and told me that if I'm lying and they find out I would be arrested (I doubt this was the case because how could they prove it wasn't for stereo equipment and for drugs) They said if it was for drugs I would not get in trouble, but they have to know the truth. I was arrested last summer for a non drug related theft incident which left me with three felonies which got dropped to an A misdemeanor and I am in treatment court to get the misdemeanor dropped. I used to smoke a lot of pot but now I find myself shooting up heroin because it's the only thing that I really like that I can get away with doing (justice system really works right?) If I could just smoke weed I would probably bug out and feel real guilty about shooting up, lol. Anyway, I just tell them I was buying weed because I just wanted to go home at this point. They asked me if I wanted to press charges and that the kid would be arrested for armed robbery and it's a felony. I decided not to press charges because the kid(who I keep calling a kid who in reality is 23) knows where I live and came to my house twice, once on Friday and once today. I was worried about my mom and my sister and my automobiles. I live in a safe neighborhood but still, for $.... it wasn't worth having to look over my shoulder. But I text the kid that I called the cops and I have 48 hours to make a report and press charges. He calls me back and starts yelling at me saying I made a false report and shit and leave him alone. Then later he has the balls to call me a scumbag, and AND an addict. The kid said he has been shooting up for three years. I have only daily for the last month. If he didn't know where I lived I definitely would have pressed charges because they said I would have got my money back. Also, they said it wouldn't affect my "probation" even thought it was a "drug deal gone bad." I know I am gonna get shit for calling the cops but I was fucked up and I thought it was the right move. I paced around the gas station thinking about it for more than a half an hour.

I have the kids plate number, when shit dies down what should I do? I know you can't look up plate numbers online because they made it illegal. Also, my family has a few cop friends and I was told for other situations that there has to be a legitimate reason to look up a plate number and they keep track of who does. All I really want is my money back, and I know that's probably not gonna happen, short of robbing him myself with a weapon (and with my luck I'll get arrested for that lol)

Any ideas what I can do fellas/felletes?

 

[BrokedownPalace]

^I think the best thing you can do is just cut your losses, and learn from it. Don't trust random junkies you meet on the street.

 

[John_Burrows]

Wow I read most of that and think that between not being so lucky with both GETTING drugs and USING them you're better off finding a new hobby.