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Did ecstasy change your personality/other thoughts?

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Ever since I did E, everytime I smoke a cig I feel all the ceretonin in my brain rush, and I feel SO good. Does anyone else feel like this?
 
<3 this post. All i can add to this is. I've always been a empathetic person but I've always been to more to my self. After doing E for the first time in my life I was able to become more open. E taught me how to just enjoy life. It made me want to meet more people, and to be more outgoing.
 
That's kick ass dude. It reminds of myself when I first tried MDMA. All the typical BS in life stopped bothering me. It was so easy to accepting on a whole new level. However, like others have said that feelings tends to subside a little bit. But still you are correct that you'll feel a pretty strong connection to the people you rolled with even if you haven't seen them for a while. I am actually in a very similar situation as you in that I haven't seen the people I've rolled with (and tried LSD with) for the first time in quite a while.

SyR1S said:
Imo this is a falsified connection caused by seretonin released in your system, its not gunuine, if your only friends with someone b/c you "clicked" on the drug of ectasacy its not a real friendship but an artificial one. Its a known side effect of the drug
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All emotions/actions/feelings are all based on chemical reactions and fundamental biology/physics/chemistry. All notions of real and artificial or important and unimportant are in the end a matter of personal preference. So ignore this dude's BS.

RGB said:
Stoicism is a curious problem among men...it's so prevalent and so firmly ingrained that I actually wonder whether it's appropriate to call it a problem at all. While it may be more honest to admit to emotion, it could be problematic for a person who's not expected to show it in the context of their culture.

While I agree with you that MDMA brings us to a level of personal honesty, I have to question whether applying that honesty to one's life actually does one much practical good, especially when their well-being relies on what are essentially illusions. For instance, masculinity and femininity are largely constructed concepts. There's some thin biological basis for their difference, of course, but we as a culture have heaped up so much expectation on those categories that it's almost impossible to be accepted in society unless you somewhat adhere to your gender role. To the person on MDMA, they may (consciously or not) come to the conclusion that gender roles are contrived and begin to act outside of their role. Once the drug wears off, they either have to acknowledge that they behaved "deviantly", or they have to abandon a part of what they considered their identity prior to rolling. If one chooses to change, they may have to contend with the negative opinions of others, and they'll definitely have to contend with the fact that this change took place through the use of a drug.

Some people can simply shrug their shoulders, say "well, I was rolling" and think nothing more of it, but others (including myself) find it too powerful of an experience to ignore. In my opinion (being someone who's sensitive to its effects), the lessons that MDMA has to teach aren't always easy to swallow, or even that useful. Knowing that I'm an emotional being with the ability to throw inhibition to the wind and "act out" my identity might be fun and liberating sometimes, but it's hardly something that I can use in my daily life, at least if I don't want people to think I'm insane. Perhaps it's better for people to simply remain as they are, misconceptions or not, because it makes their lives easier to live that way. *shrug*

I realize that I'm taking MDMA a little seriously...not every roll has been an eye-opening revelation, of course, but a few of them have, and those are the ones I'm addressing. As usual, the stuff above is pure opinion, and I love to be contradicted. :)
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Well I would argue that MDMA's effect (and the effects of many other psychedelic drugs and to some extent all drugs even something as shallow as opiates) of letting you see the artificial nature of society is not in any way unique. Many other things in life can have a very similar effect like living in different cultures and extensive traveling or disconnection from a culture that you consider "normal". Even having parents who are from different cultures can severely mess with your ability to 'refer' to baseline culture in order to define your norms. So I would say this issue is much wider in scope that just MDMA (or drug) use.

But anyways, I think the key issue when discussing the usefulness of 'honesty' is what you want for yourself in life. You need to decide to what extent you want be yourself and to what extent you want to follow social norms. While social conformism (and I am using this term in a very loose sense - any possible negative associations need not apply) might be a pretty good solution in the short term and medium term, I would argue that in the long term honesty could result in an overall better quality of life. Being honest about the nature of social relations could provide you with some crazy life experience and would make it easier for you to appreciate the beauty of the simpler things in life. If you're honest, you would be able to connect to all sorts of people. Even if you were staying in some poor place with a tyrannical government like Turkmenistan or North Korea, you would still be able to connect with the people and see the beautiful aspects of their personalities. Now if on the other hand, such honesty would not be a priority for you, all you would be able to see in Turkmenistan is poverty, lack of Freedom (in the loaded, 'American' sense) and no iPhones. Unfortunately, I am pretty sure most people don't even know that a country like Turkmenistan exists and would much rather get a new iPhone.

There is also the issue of long term social progress. I would argue that most positive social developments were largely initiated by "social deviants" who went against the norms. What initially begins as a the radical thoughts of a small group of outsiders eventually enters the mainstream and changes society completely.

I am going on pretty large tangents here, but I think this is still very relevant to the discussions of honesty and MDMA. I think the key issue is really what you consider to be "useful" in life. I don't know, maybe I will agree with you in 5 years. But until then I am going to try to make the most of my "subjective" attitude. ;)
 
I used to be really shy to tell my boyfriend I loved him, we barely used to say it at all. We also weren't affectionate. I'll never forget the day when we rolled together: after the roll was over, we were just telling each other how much we wanted to be together, how much we loved each other, and how we never felt that way before. It was incredible.

I also don't judge people by their appearance anymore. Me and my friend were trying to find some good pills from someone different (we were rolling at the time). We walked past a group of ghetto dudes talking about pills. At first, I was too scared to go back and ask, but me and my friend both asked them where we could find some. They told us where to go, and realllly helped us out. Now, I'm not scared to approach people based off how they look.
 
I definitely walked that same 'show no emotion' path before doing MDMA. After the first one or two times, it really opened my eyes, kind of like "why are you wasting your time being a grumpy-ass?" I came to become a lot less introverted, and a lot more open to wanting to try new things... I think it gave me a bit of confidence to just talk to new people, etc.

Yay drugs. ;)
 
Looking back I can for sure say that it changed my life. My first time was back in November, and during this time I was very insecure about myself, I didn't understand people as much, I was too worried about being cool, still depressed after my breakup with my first serious gf which was a year and a half ago, just not feeling very good about myself at this point in my life. I only use to drink maybe 1-2 a month when going out on the weekends, smoked weed a few times but never got high. The first time my friends kind of peer pressured me into taking it lol, I went a head and did it, and when I started coming up I freaked the fuck out hahaha, then once I calmed down it was amazing, i still remember hearing Guru Josh Project-Infinity remix, for the first time and that song was so epic, how the lights were so bright, and how I was able to release all of the feelings I held inside and didn't care what people thought. The next time I rolled was at the end of march this year, but I can for sure say that I would not be the same person I am today if I never tried x. It basically opened my eyes to the things I had a hard time seeing in myself and in life, made me realize it's ok to be myself, and not have to act like someone I'm not. Made me realize how the whole "clique" thing is just a bunch of b/s, realized that we are all on the same level regardless of social status or income, we are all human and need to treat eachother like we would want to be treated. And it's crazy thinking a year ago I was not the same person, I feel like I've grown up so much this last year I think I was pretty immature in the past. And yeah, just opened my eyes to what I had a hard time seeing my whole life, definitely a spiritual thing the past 9 months for me<3
 
It can be dangerous because it lowers your inhibitions making it possible for you to talk and act in certain ways that you may not under normal circumstances, creating a misleading impression of who you and that person truly are to each other, and in general. Feeling completely comfortable and open about everything is as an incredible feeling, but can be dangerous if you misjudge someone's character, putting false trust in them when you do not now who the person truly is. I have made a lot of lifetime friends hanging out with people for the first time on ecstasy. I have also done and said a lot of things that later were embarrassing but at the time felt perfect. MDMA provides profound feelings of perfection, but in the end it's just a chemical creation.

To answer the thread's question, yes ecstasy completely changed my thoughts and personality. I also abused it for seven years.

Used in moderation with respect to the drug, I believe that it is the best out there for recreation, understanding, and healing.
 
TheFunk350 said:
I always felt fine but sometimes a good while after certain E or Molly I'll find myself feeling quite brain dead.
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Completely agree. was shy before doing EX myself,, once you realise a drug can make you that way, you realise it's possible.. now only takes a couple of pint's and im up dancing!..Love E ;)
 
I'm glad this super old post is brought back to life! MDMA has change me a lot. First of all it changed my sence of touch forever, it seems to be WAY more intense than it used to and I have bond greatly with friends and learn to apreciate them more. More importantly it helped me deal and get over a mild depression that I was going through and let go of some very frustrating and consuming emotional attachments that I had. MDMA use led me and some of my peers to profound thoughts and conclusions that could easily be called "Life changing". It made me greatfu and extremely empathetic, yet strong towards bad descisions and influences as I have more selfrespect and appreciation for myself, my life and the people around me.

When used correctly MDMA can be an amazing tool for a vast amount of things. But as someone above said "When you get the message, hang up the phone"
 
So it seems that MDMA can cause a shy, introverted person to become more social, confident and outgoing. Can anybody comment whether MDMA has had any permanent effects in regards to this ?

The only permanent positive effects i have found are those that suffer from Post-traumatic stress disorder. After given a single dose of MDMA, symptoms of PTSD, for example emotional blunting disappeared, which is quite phenomenal if you ask me...Also these patients that took a single dose were observed for a further 2 years, and the positive effects of MDMA remained... It should be noted that 10% of the PTSD patients who took a single dose didn't exhibit remission of their symptoms.

There are also many journals citing that MDMA is therapeutic for those with social anxiety.

I've never actually tried MDMA, but it seems like its worth trying at least once...
 
Londonscouser said:
So it seems that MDMA can cause a shy, introverted person to become more social, confident and outgoing. Can anybody comment whether MDMA has had any permanent effects in regards to this ?

The only permanent positive effects i have found are those that suffer from Post-traumatic stress disorder. After given a single dose of MDMA, symptoms of PTSD, for example emotional blunting disappeared, which is quite phenomenal if you ask me...Also these patients that took a single dose were observed for a further 2 years, and the positive effects of MDMA remained... It should be noted that 10% of the PTSD patients who took a single dose didn't exhibit remission of their symptoms.

There are also many journals citing that MDMA is therapeutic for those with social anxiety.

I've never actually tried MDMA, but it seems like its worth trying at least once...
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I can 100% say it helps me with social anxiety and generally to be more spiritual and at peace with myself. I have bipolar type 2.
 
Londonscouser said:
So it seems that MDMA can cause a shy, introverted person to become more social, confident and outgoing. Can anybody comment whether MDMA has had any permanent effects in regards to this ?

The only permanent positive effects i have found are those that suffer from Post-traumatic stress disorder. After given a single dose of MDMA, symptoms of PTSD, for example emotional blunting disappeared, which is quite phenomenal if you ask me...Also these patients that took a single dose were observed for a further 2 years, and the positive effects of MDMA remained... It should be noted that 10% of the PTSD patients who took a single dose didn't exhibit remission of their symptoms.

There are also many journals citing that MDMA is therapeutic for those with social anxiety.

I've never actually tried MDMA, but it seems like its worth trying at least once...
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Indeed, I find it hard to believe mdma can be so 'dangerous' if MAPS doctors are well on their way past 'phase 2' of psychotherapy. Apparently trials and tests have been occurring for some time. If anything, it speaks to its relative safety (not even counting my own experience).

I'm only aware of this because I get emails on their progress...probably from the time I donated either on here or on Erowid.

I think social confidence can be permanent, but it won't be the case for everyone. Much like how permanent, positive change from psychedelic self-discovery might not transcend past the trip; a lot of arguable factors are at play for sure. I know I have realized quite a lot from taking these mind altering substances, but they were fun and enjoyable more than anything.

The sociability is definitely an acute effect that is very strong while on it, but I guess one of the few ways it can stay permanent is if you carry that "feeling" over from the trip, which ime is a carefree attitude that is nearly anxiety-free. It's one of those things that seem hard until you do it. For me, I just have to not give a shit what people think about me, and forget about being self conscious.

I'm not saying that happened because of mdma though. It always depends on my mood and who I'm around; obviously I can't connect with people I have nothing in common with, but I have no problem connecting with the ones that I do. I'm talkative more often than not, but I'll be silent as fuck in a doctor's office, standing in line, somewhere where I hardly know anyone, etc.

What mdma did was help me see things more objectively, and in a sort of magical way I could see the filters and barriers that exist in everyday life, especially from person to person. It allowed me to become a deeper person and see through the trivial bs I used to be enamored with, for better or worse. The way E just exposed it like fodder made me think why tf I didn't see certain things years earlier, when the info gained would've helped immensely.

I always tell my gf she's lucky to have met me when I was in my mid twenties, because honestly I was a piece of shit before then. I met her right after I had gone through a personal change that took years, [no] thanks to my ex and other influences. A lot of people judged me negatively in the past, and they would be correct back then because deep down, I hardly gave a shit about anyone. I had gone through a lot of undeserved crap and was a hateful person.

(Which is why it became my pet peeve since then...it's like uggghhh, maybe back then I could understand, but now?)

It's funny to admit this because I've been the complete opposite for a while, and most people I see now have no idea what I've been through, so all they see is, "oh, he's always happy cuz he always had it good." Uh, no, that couldn't be further from the truth. I'm only happy because at the end of every day, I have a guilt-free conscience knowing I did my best to be good to everyone, especially those I care about. But this is what people gain by doing good; they gain power, a totally different kind than from doing bad. It's of the kind that trumps everything else, and strangely cannot be argued with successfully, in both social and interpersonal relationships. (This realization was an eye opener for me, personally).

But yeah, mdma definitely assisted me with this change, including the way I view things now. I also believe it's attainable without it too. It just takes quite a long time.
 
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