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Did ecstasy change your personality/other thoughts?

It didn't change me, but it has helped me reinforce who I truly am.
I'm much more aware of what I stand for.
 
Damnitfeelsgood said:
Over the winter break I did E twice.. both times with close friends. The first time was incredible and one of the best days, and the second time was even more incredible because I took two E pills. We talked about everything, nothing was left uncovered and I'm so happy I tried it. My friendship is amazing with the people I did E with. I would take a bullet for them.. no joke.
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I had to sign up and register a new account just because this is 100% exactly what happened with me over the break too. This wasn't my first time taking E, but it was my first time taking it with GOOD friends and GOOD pills. These two experiences honestly gave me a more positive, friendly outlook on life.

Just last night I did E (same pills) again, this time not with close friends and at a party, and for some reason it wasn't nearly as good of a time as taking it over the break with my friends. I started feeling alot of anxiety and ended up just going to bed.

From now on I think I'm going to space out my rolls over a month or two and keep it to close friends, no more parties on e.
 
Damnitfeelsgood said:
it seems that E has gotten me extremely addicted to cigarettes. Before E I would only smoke cigarettes around other people and now I'm just pounding through them because they taste... better (could be in my head)
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everyone starts off just smoking around other people. it leads to a nicotine addiction eventually. you probably pounded through a pack while you were rolling without realizing it and now you're hooked TBH g;ad you had fun though
 
I always felt fine but sometimes a good while after certain E or Molly I'll find myself feeling quite brain dead.
 
leet said:
plus side: i am more confident about dancing.
BIG down side: i have become so emo. i might cry at sad films. i nearly cried at christmas cos of the thought my family had put into my presents.
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That's not being "emo."
Generally, I like to describe it as the state of being human. E engages the part of your brain responsible for empathy a great deal (among other regions). This most likely leaves you more prone to empathy and bonding to others- e.g. crying at a sad movie.


It's a good thing. Who wants to be a desensitized, jaded person?

Screw being an automaton.





Postscript-
The things men say *sigh*
YOU'RE A HUMAN. You're meant to have emotions, and sad movies are *gasp* meant to evoke them!!!!!! God forbid you actually express them.

Jebus save our irrationally brainwashed menfolk.
 
Taryth said:
YOU'RE A HUMAN. You're meant to have emotions, and sad movies are *gasp* meant to evoke them!!!!!! God forbid you actually express them.
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Stoicism is a curious problem among men...it's so prevalent and so firmly ingrained that I actually wonder whether it's appropriate to call it a problem at all. While it may be more honest to admit to emotion, it could be problematic for a person who's not expected to show it in the context of their culture.

While I agree with you that MDMA brings us to a level of personal honesty, I have to question whether applying that honesty to one's life actually does one much practical good, especially when their well-being relies on what are essentially illusions. For instance, masculinity and femininity are largely constructed concepts. There's some thin biological basis for their difference, of course, but we as a culture have heaped up so much expectation on those categories that it's almost impossible to be accepted in society unless you somewhat adhere to your gender role. To the person on MDMA, they may (consciously or not) come to the conclusion that gender roles are contrived and begin to act outside of their role. Once the drug wears off, they either have to acknowledge that they behaved "deviantly", or they have to abandon a part of what they considered their identity prior to rolling. If one chooses to change, they may have to contend with the negative opinions of others, and they'll definitely have to contend with the fact that this change took place through the use of a drug.

Some people can simply shrug their shoulders, say "well, I was rolling" and think nothing more of it, but others (including myself) find it too powerful of an experience to ignore. In my opinion (being someone who's sensitive to its effects), the lessons that MDMA has to teach aren't always easy to swallow, or even that useful. Knowing that I'm an emotional being with the ability to throw inhibition to the wind and "act out" my identity might be fun and liberating sometimes, but it's hardly something that I can use in my daily life, at least if I don't want people to think I'm insane. Perhaps it's better for people to simply remain as they are, misconceptions or not, because it makes their lives easier to live that way. *shrug*

I realize that I'm taking MDMA a little seriously...not every roll has been an eye-opening revelation, of course, but a few of them have, and those are the ones I'm addressing. As usual, the stuff above is pure opinion, and I love to be contradicted. :)
 
Taryth said:
That's not being "emo."
Generally, I like to describe it as the state of being human. E engages the part of your brain responsible for empathy a great deal (among other regions). This most likely leaves you more prone to empathy and bonding to others- e.g. crying at a sad movie.


It's a good thing. Who wants to be a desensitized, jaded person?

Screw being an automaton.

Postscript-
The things men say *sigh*
YOU'RE A HUMAN. You're meant to have emotions, and sad movies are *gasp* meant to evoke them!!!!!! God forbid you actually express them.

Jebus save our irrationally brainwashed menfolk.
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hahaha

yuo are of course right. i took e purely for the fun times and found that it opened up parts of me i didn't know i had.

i dont think i had really cried since i was a child, i have felt sad for sure, but never really expressed it. i'm sure i was able to empathise before, i was always good with children and kind to animals; but over a period of time i have found i am able to express these feelings much more openly and without feeling quite so embarrassed or even ashamed of them.

i was probably quite a hard person, cold perhaps, and the depth of emotion i was capable of not only for my family and friends but also towards strangers and other situations came as a shock. i cried more when my dog died, than when my mother did, possibly because i was able to express my love for the dog better on a day by day basis.

i think i still repress these feelings, i must do, labelling myself as emo when as yuo so rightly say its merely the human condition. i work in a very male dominated industry in which i have always considered myself a sensitive individual, but it seems i still run with the herd.

i have matured a lot with e, and it seems i still have more growing up to do, ie applying the lessons i have been taught to my everyday life.

i found yuor post very helpful and has given me plenty of food for thought, thank yuo.
<3
xxx

after writing all that i still hesitate before pressing the submit reply button, as this post is a little bit too honest and open for my liking
*sigh*
 
RGB said:
Stoicism is a curious problem among men...it's so prevalent and so firmly ingrained that I actually wonder whether it's appropriate to call it a problem at all. While it may be more honest to admit to emotion, it could be problematic for a person who's not expected to show it in the context of their culture.

While I agree with you that MDMA brings us to a level of personal honesty, I have to question whether applying that honesty to one's life actually does one much practical good, especially when their well-being relies on what are essentially illusions. For instance, masculinity and femininity are largely constructed concepts. There's some thin biological basis for their difference, of course, but we as a culture have heaped up so much expectation on those categories that it's almost impossible to be accepted in society unless you somewhat adhere to your gender role. To the person on MDMA, they may (consciously or not) come to the conclusion that gender roles are contrived and begin to act outside of their role. Once the drug wears off, they either have to acknowledge that they behaved "deviantly", or they have to abandon a part of what they considered their identity prior to rolling. If one chooses to change, they may have to contend with the negative opinions of others, and they'll definitely have to contend with the fact that this change took place through the use of a drug.

Some people can simply shrug their shoulders, say "well, I was rolling" and think nothing more of it, but others (including myself) find it too powerful of an experience to ignore. In my opinion (being someone who's sensitive to its effects), the lessons that MDMA has to teach aren't always easy to swallow, or even that useful. Knowing that I'm an emotional being with the ability to throw inhibition to the wind and "act out" my identity might be fun and liberating sometimes, but it's hardly something that I can use in my daily life, at least if I don't want people to think I'm insane. Perhaps it's better for people to simply remain as they are, misconceptions or not, because it makes their lives easier to live that way. *shrug*

I realize that I'm taking MDMA a little seriously...not every roll has been an eye-opening revelation, of course, but a few of them have, and those are the ones I'm addressing. As usual, the stuff above is pure opinion, and I love to be contradicted. :)
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All quite true. Someone else can contradict you, RGB, I'm not up to par for the task :\

Some shitz:

I don't take much issue with people being impassive about emotionally tumultuous events, realizations, etc. . But, it becomes an issue when males (let us be honest and obvious) dominate the vast majority of the world's governments. Which often leads me to be a bit of an ass to people I perceive as being a member of this personality archetype.

Men being stubborn, prideful, and reluctant to show emotion has always been an issue for figures of power. One "cannot appear weak," but this more often than not simply results in the leader making foolish choices.

How many times have you been in an argument, only to realize after you're well into it that the other person is absolutely correct? Most of us will stubbornly continue on (I'm not above anyone, I do too :! ). Imagine that in the context of leadership . . .and stubbornly continuing on, even when a great deal of people are telling you you're wrong. I'm sure I don't need to cite any examples of that in moder, or ancient, history.

Oh, and I don't think you're taking E "too seriously." It's good to derive knowledge from something a good deal of people consider purely recreational.



@Leet:
I apologize if my OP seemed a bit rude. I just witness this happening constantly. Interestingly, there is a correlation to how far certain men will take it, and how insecure they are about the manner in which others perceive them. The reverse applies for women, too. If a woman "acts like a man" (I am one of those douches who doesn't believe in societal gender roles- that doesn't mean I cross-dress, just to put that out there =D )
I hope you learn everything you seek to learn; you seem like a genuinely good person. Again, I'm sorry for being prejudiced against you. Thanks for not offering a retort along the same lines as my post, you took the high road =D

I'll try not to be so prejudiced against people I don't know well. I am shamed by my own hypocrisy in this, and sincerely hope you accept my apology!




And now I must be sick again, for tequila is an unkind maiden.
 
Writing about forgiveness and understanding in a state of profound nausea? You're a champ, Taryth. :)

You make an excellent point, by the way. I wholeheartedly agree that chauvinist attitudes have hugely contributed to the problems of not just our own society, but the world at large. I'd go on (and on), but I think I'd just be writing for my own ego at this point, heh.
 
Well, I do have a window without a screen in my room. Makes for an easy method of . . .disposal, should I become suddenly ill ;)

All nastiness aside, many of your posts that I've read are interesting. If your ego is inflated, then it is deservedly so, I say :\



Anyway, of course I agree. The only issue with agreeing with people? There's no basis for further discussion! Argh!
 
ive always had social anxiety, it goes away when im rolling, but comes back when i wake up the next day.

however, i tend to meet a lot of new people when i roll and most become actual relationships so its all good i guess. also, im comfortable with people who ive rolled with, even if i dont know them.
 
hey taryth chill please, yuor post was funny, helpful, friendly and on target, good honest advice straight from the heart <3 perspicacity d00d %)


op:

during the 1970's and 1980's there was huge culture of organised gang violence in english football. terrible fights, with horrendous weapons in and out of the football grounds. it was a whole way of life, clothes, 'calling cards' haircut. then suddenly e appeared and these guys loved each other. the whole sub culture collapsed overnight.

Previously, warring football hooligans would do battle before and after matches. However, with the arrival of Ecstasy these same embattled groups found themselves at the same raves, where they would embrace and dance the night away before peacefully going to the match later that day. Simon Reynolds notes that this détente between football fans is a perfect example of the political and social ills of Britain both being solved by the taking of Ecstasy: "In the eighties, with mass unemployment and Thatcher's defeat of the unions, the soccer match and the warehouse party offered rare opportunities for the working class to experience a sense of collective identity, to belong to a `we' rather than an atomized impotent 'I'" (Generation Ecstasy 64).
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It make me a happy (r)etard for about a week after the first pill, then the other 200(-/+?) ruined that.
It did make me a more empathetic/sympathetic person, and a bit confident.
Now, 2c-b+Mdma is a real personality/conscious-changing experience.
Mdma/Mda taught me unconditional love for all beings.
 
leet said:
plus side: i am more confident about dancing.
BIG down side: i have become so emo. i might cry at sad films. i nearly cried at christmas cos of the thought my family had put into my presents.
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I'm glad you made this post. It sparked some thought provoking subsequent conversation that I can truly relate too.

I grew up always trying to project a sort of unaffected, icy persona. I associated all emotions in general with being down and sad. As a sort of coping mechanism I started to kind of push all emotions away, and as a result anyone who would try to get close to me.

Shrooms and MDMA have helped me come back in touch with my emotions and my family/close ones. I'll admit that sometimes I feel maybe too emotional, but I look at it as a result of my mind being more perceptive and accepting of my environment. All I have to do is decide when to not let external factors influence my emotions, instead of completely closing off my emotional side as a whole.
 
jam uh weezy said:
I grew up always trying to project a sort of unaffected, icy persona. I associated all emotions in general with being down and sad. As a sort of coping mechanism I started to kind of push all emotions away, and as a result anyone who would try to get close to me.

Shrooms and MDMA have helped me come back in touch with my emotions and my family/close ones. I'll admit that sometimes I feel maybe too emotional, but I look at it as a result of my mind being more perceptive and accepting of my environment. All I have to do is decide when to not let external factors influence my emotions, instead of completely closing off my emotional side as a whole.
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Sounds exactly like myself.
 
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