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Benzos Diazepam

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Seems like the odds are against me, I'm running out of valium with only (3) left. Thing is I got some prazepam from swim and I didn't feel well upon taking them... Might it be that it's cyclopropylamine bond makes it a antagonist until it's metabolised into nordazepam? If so how should I proceed?
 
I've never beveled about Xanax (dose for doss) being 20 x more potent as diazepam.
Recently, a lot of sites and now stating that 5mg of Valium is the equivalent of 0.5 mg Xanax.
I 100% agree with this. I have a LOT of experience of both drugs and 1mg Xanax does about the same for me as 10mg Valium. If anything, you get even more of Valium as it has such a long half-life it'll keep building up in your system more.

EDIT: (4 years later) I have no fucking idea what word I meant to say there, but it was not "beveled" lol
 
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IME alprazolam=diazepam is 2mg=10mg equivalency. The charts provided on wikipedia say it's 1mg=10mg. Obviously individual receptor affinities are at play, so finding benzo equivalencies is a bit more complex than doctors seem to believe. I think they also say clonazepam is 2mg=10mg diaz, but ime it's more like 3-4mg=10mg diaz.

So yeah, I personally find 10mg diazepam to be much better than most any of its counterparts' equivalencies.

YMMV.
 
Also, alprazolam isn't nearly as sedating as diazepam, and neither as hypnotic as say, temapzepam, or etizolam. BZD equivalencies are extremely dependent upon them being of similar structure and effects (i.e. hypnotics vs non-hypnotic) IMO.
 
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Cream Gravy? said:
IME alprazolam=diazepam is 2mg=10mg equivalency. The charts provided on wikipedia say it's 1mg=10mg. Obviously individual receptor affinities are at play, so finding benzo equivalencies is a bit more complex than doctors seem to believe. I think they also say clonazepam is 2mg=10mg diaz, but ime it's more like 3-4mg=10mg diaz.

So yeah, I personally find 10mg diazepam to be much better than most any of its counterparts' equivalencies.

YMMV.
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Yeah, I think Diazepam is very underrated in terms of strength
 
Cream Gravy? said:
Also, alprazolam isn't nearly as sedating as diazepam, and neither as hypnotic as say, temapzepam, or etizolam. BZD equivalencies are extremely dependent upon them being of similar structure and effects (i.e. hypnotics vs non-hypnotic) IMO.
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That's probably right. If I feel a panic attack coming on I want Xanax. If I have general, every day anxiety, I want Diazepam.
 
Indeed. Each has it's own use.

I think equivalencies are only important when switching bzds in order to taper and avoid WDs successfully.
 
I've been using Valium (10-20mg) along Passiflora and Hawthorn to ease stim comedowns and force me to sleep lately and frankly I like the two together. Thing is I've only got 90 pills left (5mg) and I was thinking Diclazepam pellets but I can't find any vendor stocking those atm, other than powder. I did find one ([removed -- negrogesic --though you did remove some characters you didn't remove remove enough to make it indiscernible])*****.net) stocking Bromazolam in pellet form (I do not handle RC benzo powder!*) but I don't know about those, and how well it may replace valium, as I like long lasting benzos as there is no real rebound anxiety (maybe just a bit, but way less than with Flualp for example). Does pyrazolam last as long as Diazepam and how do these compare? @hydroazuanacaine can you share your experience with this particular compound? If I remember right you had this tested did you also use some?
Thanks on advance errybody
 
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Pyrazolam does not last as long as diazepam, but it is pretty long lasting for a fast acting benzo. Longer lasting than alprazolam and etizolam for sure.

I wasn't a big fan of pyrazolam as i found it a little edgy and depressing. Could have been the circumstances. Pyrazolam is extremely close in structure to bromazolam with the only difference being a pyridine ring instead of phenyl. That said bromazolam is supposed to be quite abit superior to pyrazolam. I have never had bromazolam but from I understand it is quite good.

Flubromazolam is one that lasts very long from my experience, perhaps as long as diazepam but it is much stronger. It results in the best sleep of any benzodiazepine ive ever come across, but results in next day sedation if you aren't careful with the dosing. It is the most potent RC benzo.

If its between pyrazolam and bromazolam I'd definitely go with bromazolam.
 
negrogesic said:
Pyrazolam does not last as long as diazepam, but it is pretty long lasting for a fast acting benzo. Longer lasting than alprazolam and etizolam for sure.

I wasn't a big fan of pyrazolam as i found it a little edgy and depressing. Could have been the circumstances. Pyrazolam is extremely close in structure to bromazolam with the only difference being a pyridine ring instead of phenyl. That said bromazolam is supposed to be quite abit superior to pyrazolam. I have never had bromazolam but from I understand it is quite good.

Flubromazolam is one that lasts very long from my experience, perhaps as long as diazepam but it is much stronger. It results in the best sleep of any benzodiazepine ive ever come across, but results in next day sedation if you aren't careful with the dosing. It is the most potent RC benzo.

If its between pyrazolam and bromazolam I'd definitely go with bromazolam.
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Thanks for the heads up buddy! Btw pyrazolam and bromazolam are the same thing !
 
@nznity and @sekio, I have the chore of having to chose between Diclazepam powder for basically 60 utopiaro$/1000 1 Mg doses which I will have trouble with dosing properly plus I won't feel safe and will probably overdo it, or ( the least dangerous IMO after Diclaz) v Bromazilam which I have found in pellet form, which I prefer. Thing is price is high and buck/dose powder diclaz is the winner.

Protips welcome
 
I'm just wondering if this is normal.

I get a weird sinking feeling in the middle of my chest like going down in an elevator everytime I take Valium (I only take it sublingually before bedtime).

I take a very small prescribed amount (I have no tolerance to it).
 
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How much are you taking? And why are you taking it sublingually?
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I take 1mg (super low dose) of it sublingually to make it work faster before I go to bed.

After like 10 minutes I get this sinking feeling in the center of my chest.
It's like gravity gets heavy in that chest area every time.
 
Hello everyone,

I have taken diazepam at various points over my adult life, always reliable prescription which is from a family members script. When I first took it I thought it was amazing and felt a high, I know some think it’s impossible, and just felt so chilled out and relaxed.

This was pretty much the same my whole life until I got a legit pox of 28x10mg diazepam from a family member who gets prescribed but doesn’t use, to hadn’t taken any benzos is for about two years at this point so I went for 40mg and felt nothing beyond the anxiety I have daily dissipate, now that’s not bad but it wasn’t the high I am used to from these. Don’t get me wrong I loved that anxiety leaving and worries being nonexistent but… I wanted more. Over the past week I’ve upped and not felt anything until I reached 70mg and just ended up sleeping.

Any idea why this change might have happened?
 
Yes it's a weird thing diazepam is possibly the only benzo that gives me euphoria comparable to alcohol.

But just like with alcohol it's a hit and miss thing.

We're not here to tell you how to get high but cannabis is a good and safe way to enhance the whole experience imo
 
IME benzos aren't really pleasurable (simply sedating/anxiolytic) unless you mix them with other drugs. Alcohol isn't one to be mixed, I never notice how drunk I am when I do, but opioids and cannabis mix blissfully. Also great on high doses of psychedelics.

Care must be taken if mixing with opioids/other downers though, can easily lead to overdoses in non-tolerant users.
 
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IME benzos aren't really pleasurable (simply sedating/anxiolytic) unless you mix them with other drugs.
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I fully agree. When i was completely sober i didn't see a point in using benzos. Now on daily buprenorphine benzos are far more pleasurable than they used to be. Diazepam is also one of my favorites. I like it as much as i do like alprazolam despite them being different (generally they're no that different but among benzos they are).
 
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