NAD will no doubt help with this big time. Also can I ask what protocol you’re doing for your comfort meds right now?
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I dont do it myself! From a doctor of course but either way i hear you. The IM is much easier and doesn’t feel as crazy cause that NAD is no joke… also dude should i try this patch out? I’m tired of dosing the oxy 3 x daily but also dont wanna get on bupe without a solid taper plan… sorry if im being. Annoying im just super isolated right now and need somebody to talk to
Almost all of us are isolated man, who has a whole group of addicts and friends SUPPORTING their detoxes? We're on here to get the support, info, and guidance.
For me, IM is all good bc I've been pinning test for 10 years lol. And a slower rate of Absorbtion for something that's "no joke" sounds safer to me.
Also- what patch are you talking about? A bupe patch? Personally, after I experienced precipitated WD I was scared of bupe for life. Thats why I waited till day 6 of this detox to take only 2mg. (2/1.5/1/.5) taper. TBH- this detox hasn't been terrible bc of the meds and supps I've had. I was lazy AF, no energy, diarrhea, and no appetite, but I didn't have all the other classic symptoms... ESPECIALLY the mental ones... those feelings of emptiness when it gets dark, when you hear other people going about their lives while you're in bed with the world still going. I had none of that. THANK GOD.
Point is, ill layout exactly what I took which produced this better result. And if it wasnt for a couple nights of no sleep and RLS, i wouldn't have even added the bupe that late in the game. (I also was using a long acting form of fent, so I still have the fear that this may be drawn out longer then normal). So, if you can sack it up a little (which was my plan), I could have pushed through and not included the bupe at all! But I'm with you- bupe is scary, and doctors push it for long-term maintenance. I dont want that, and I dont think you do either. So, IMO, wait 3-4 days, rely on your meds and just lay in bed like a zombie, then write out a sub taper and STICK TO IT. Be conservative. my taper is extremely conservative, but a standard inpatient detox sup taper is typically (8/6/4/4/2/2)... and I beg them to bring me down to 1mg, bc why not?
Depending on your current substance intake, maybe opt for something like (4/2/2/1/1). Sure, it lengthens things a bit, but it does soften the blow. But im not a doctor, so thats just an idea.
my list of prescriptions for comfort meds:
-.1mg clonidine (30ct + 1 refill)---I take one pill per dose
-25mg hydroxyzine (30ct + 1 refill)---I take one pill per dose
-5mg Valium (42 count)---- I take 1 OR 1.5 pills per dose
-4mg Tizanidine (21 count + refill)----I take 1/2 pill per dose (knocks me out too much)
-4mg zofran (12 count + 1 refill)----Havnet needed it, thank god.
-8mg subutex (10 count)---I broke one pill up for the small taper I described above.
Other Meds/Supplements I acquired on my Own:
-1mg Klonopin (15 pills)---I take one AM and one PM
-Imodium- (used as needed. Which was a lot)... buy a big bottle. The Vitamin C can make diarrhea worse.
-Sodium Ascorbate (taken in 2g doses)---I mix with Gatorlyte and drink every ~2 hours.
-Black Seed Oil (200mg pill @ 5% extract strength)---I took one AM and PM, but have ramped up to 4 split throughout the day
-Passionflower Extract (375mg pill at 4:1 extract strength)---I took one AM and PM but have ramped up to 2 am and 2pm
-Agmatine Sulfate (1g dose)--- taken 2-3 times a day
-L-Tyrosine (500mg pill)---I take 2 upon waking, and 2 in the mid afternoon)
-Multivitamin---Taken with morning meal and night meal
-Good Ole Weed (one hit in the morning for appetite, several hits at night to help sleep).
I take the OTC Supps first in the AM with my first dose of Vitamin C (sodium Ascorbate). 20 Mins later, I take my med doses. I take that cocktail of Rx meds 3 times a day... morning, afternoon, and slightly before bed. I dose the OTC supplements throughout the day as I see fit.
*I absolutely feel the vitamin C was the key player here in this detox being easier. I'm sure its a combo of everything, but there's nearly overwhelming evidence out there that it works!
Also worth noting that as of day 5 or so, I started halving my Rx meds, since I didn't feel the symptoms that they are there to counteract. I also felt that they were sapping my energy more then the detox itself. And I think I was correct. But these are PRN, so take them when needed, just not closer then ~5 hours apart, bc they are DEF CNS depressants. And obv be careful with the benzos. I saved a lot of my valium (I would have enjoyed taking larger doses then a measly 5mg)... but I wanted to make sure I had a good 5-10 pills to wean off of after all of this. I also knew my doc wasn't going to write me another script for them.
Lastly, @Allylbenzene has contributed a mountain-full of extra info here and has suggested and explained several other supplements that I WISH I could have. If I had the money atm, they'd be on the list above. So, Read his posts, because you could end up having it easier then me with some of his suggestions! I plan on still getting much of his suggestions next week, and using them through PAWS. I want to end the RX meds as soon as I see fit. I expect that ill need them in smaller doses for a day or two after my sub taper, as such goes.
