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Opioids Defeating the new OC time release

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Tried every method I know of (including microwave crispin' - which I found to work out best but still sucked ass). Welp, I'm glad I'm not addicted to this shit anymore because these new ones just destroyed them forever for me.
 
i always wondered about if i could just check that box myself if i was sick of generics....or does the dr. have to do that?

eh...i guess either way I could check it.
 
You can get high quality chemicals from hardware store..

svacheme3 said:
I wouldn't use hardware store quality chemicals for an A/B extraction... You can get high purity stuff designed for lab work cheap online and without issue, since I don't think any of the applicable acids, bases, or solvents are List 1 or 2.
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You can obtain some high quality chemicals from a hardware store,such as Red Devil Lye crystals/powder, it is pure lye aka sodium hydroxide,and you can buy Liquid Fire also which is pure concentrated Sulfuric Acid...the other chemiacls however are not of high quality usually except acetone, MEK-Methyl-Ethyl-Ketone,lye and the liquid fire aka sulfuric acid. Ether is hard to find anywhere as far as i know unless it is in starting fluid with butane,isobutane,some other chemical,and usually an upper cylinder lubricant. I have some older cans of starting fluid from the mid-90's at the family farm I found stored and it lists only di-ethyl ether and nitrous oxide as a propellant..!! this is a rare find as I think that most strating fluid has the other chemicals ans crap in it becasue of it's use in making methamphetamine in the past,or still today ,I think the chemical compaines intentionaly put all the other shit in the starting fluid to make the ether harder to work with and dirty to discourage people using it in meth production,but there are still online sources for pure ether products although I think they would be "watched" as to the amount bought and how many times it was bought,depending on the area of the country of course..
 
has anyone tried totally pulverizing the tablet then placing it in a warm solution for 12 hours or more?

People are talking about matching stomach acidity, but you have to remember that the tablet does not remain in the stomach for the whole 12 hours of time release. In fact after leaving the stomach, all contents are highly basified, so the tablet will have been designed to release within all of these conditions.
 
dcraver877 said:
i always wondered about if i could just check that box myself if i was sick of generics....or does the dr. have to do that?

eh...i guess either way I could check it.
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You can ask the pharmacist for the brand name. However, I think some insurances reserve the right to deny coverage on name brand when generics are available, unless the doctor checks in that box.
 
Tommyboy723 said:
You can ask the pharmacist for the brand name. However, I think some insurances reserve the right to deny coverage on name brand when generics are available, unless the doctor checks in that box.
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This is usually the case. And the insurance company will almost always prompt a call to the doctor when this happens just to verify so it could get you in some hot water.
 
I think we should create a new thread dedicated just to methods to defeat the new tamper proof OPs. I've seen a few different ways in here but I think we need to have a new thread where the only posts in the thread are methods and results, that or compile the few methods in this thread and put them together in the original post. Just saying, it would make it a lot easier then having to read through 6-7 pages of "this sucks, it's over, we still have roxies...ect". What do you think members/admins?
 
TheTuneOfTurbo said:
I think we should create a new thread dedicated just to methods to defeat the new tamper proof OPs. I've seen a few different ways in here but I think we need to have a new thread where the only posts in the thread are methods and results, that or compile the few methods in this thread and put them together in the original post. Just saying, it would make it a lot easier then having to read through 6-7 pages of "this sucks, it's over, we still have roxies...ect". What do you think members/admins?
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^^+1

this thread is a waste cuz all it is, is people bitching

lets get something good up

i just got 2 old OCs n the motherfucker slipped a new OP in my bag, ill do some of my own expirimentation on em n a bit (once im done with the old ones ;) )n get back to yall but this thread sure was a dissapointment for tryin to find answers
 
I don't have any experience with this method used to separate the wax matrix from the morphine sulfate in ms contin, but I do know that it works. Has any one tried grinding the pill down as fine as possible into a metal tablespoon, and then adding water that was just boiled in the microwave to fill the spoon. I know when ms contin is manipulated like this balls of wax form at the top and the morphine sulfate dissolves in the water, and the solution is good for plugging or drinking for instant release.

I know this is probably a long shot but I havent seen anyone mention this method in this thread yet and thought someone might give it a shot.

At the very least you could just eat the OP if it won't dissolve.
 
You want an answer? Here's what all my reading from all over the web says: Your Fucked, Seriously.

The best you can do is grind the whole damn thing down and then parachute it. No one has found a way to make the medicine's delivery method ineffective enough to allow someone to snort, plug, or shoot it.

Have a nice day.
 
HighonLife said:
Man this thread is 10 fucking pages long and there is barely any talk in regards to actually " defeating the new OC time release"

so has anyone used these on a hose clamp, were you still able to hose clamp it then snort it and have it gel up in the nostrils like opana ER? cuz if so then thats not too bad, eh?
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That's been discussed already.
TheTuneOfTurbo said:
I think we should create a new thread dedicated just to methods to defeat the new tamper proof OPs. I've seen a few different ways in here but I think we need to have a new thread where the only posts in the thread are methods and results, that or compile the few methods in this thread and put them together in the original post. Just saying, it would make it a lot easier then having to read through 6-7 pages of "this sucks, it's over, we still have roxies...ect". What do you think members/admins?
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I don't see the point to a new thread until this one reaches the 1000 limit. The new thread will go off-topic just like this one has. We keep large threads on a topic for a reason, mostly to keep all crap and repetitive questions out of the specific threads.
 
^^^ True, but I still think we should compile all of the solutions/methods into one post somewhere (maybe in the OP) so it's easier for people to find instead of weeding through a whole bunch of pages. Just a thought,
 
TheTuneOfTurbo said:
^^^ True, but I still think we should compile all of the solutions/methods into one post somewhere (maybe in the OP) so it's easier for people to find instead of weeding through a whole bunch of pages. Just a thought,
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I agree with you and think thats a great idea...

...except I do understand that people will probably "clog" up the new thread with stupid posts just like this one, unless moderators/administrators keep a tight leash on the thread and watch it closely...meaning more work for them...so I don't see it happening anytime soon.
 
Here's what does not work:

1. grinding it with a hose clamp [insert reason it doesn't work]
2. 2nd thing that doesnt work [reason second thing doesn't work]


ta-da
 
187coopa said:
I honestly think a butane extraction thru a metal fountain pin would work.

ur superfreezing the polymer right so it should break free.

once u let the butane evap u would be left with oxycodone and a broken polymer.
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I'm an ex-opiate user and a happy one too. There's a correlation there somewhere but i digress. At the risk of sounding like a geek and or smart arse there are some probs with that idea.
Firstly polymers only get brittle below their glass transition temperature and that can vary a lot depending on the polymer, which i think here is unknown.
Secondly but probably of actual relevance to this thread is that the OC particles are surrounded/coated by polymer which isn't going to magically un-coat itself, because it may or may not (butane liquid boils around zero, not v cold) be below its glass transition temp 8)
Try Liquid nitrogen in a Commercial spice ginder ;)
 
Really it a solvents problem. Powdering it to the max first followed by careful/random/silly choice of non-polar/polar protic/aprotic solvent to dissolve the oxy/polymer/your nail varnish resulting in failure/success/gooey mess.
 
Pralus said:
It's hard getting to 50. Shameless posting, but helpful i hope.
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It took me 2 months too get too 50. Post useful stuff, dont just be like "omg 4 more posts till Im a bluelighter" cause thats seriously lame.


I think it's time for us all too admit defeat and sniff roxys. Sure, the green and yellows were great while they lasted but we STILL HAVE roxys. And quite frankly I always liked my blues better. This is the last post youll see from me on here.

Obviously...you can beat it. But beating it in a way that wont take 2 hours and be safe for sniffing or shooting...I just dont think so.

- 80
 
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