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dealing with jail

The worst thing about british jail is the first two months. After that you will adjust and get into the space. As a female you will go to Holloway at first and get allocated quickly. Being able to wear your own clothes makes it easier to adjust. Holloway has a lot of mental people and vulnerbals. As its mostly dorms this will be a drag till u are allocated but you will easily find women who you can relate to and support each other. Remember they can lock up your body but your mind will always be free. Dont call the screws sir or madam. In male jails they are generally 'GUV' or Miss in womans. Ignore what the judge weighs out coz you will only do half or a third of that. One last thing you will need to plan ahead. *Please do not post advice regarding how to perform illegal activity within the prison system* ~ Vaya They will find it with a detector. Ask for a docs app asap for the methadone, and a visiting order 4 your family, they will worry and want to see you. Use the time to do a degree and get your teeth done, its all free of charge. The real friemds you make inside may be friends for life but take your time with people, like you, they have a story. X
ignore any of the above that does not apply to you.
 
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If u have a habit it will take 2 days at least before you get any methadone so bottle some psy pills
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Are you talking methadone specifically, or detox meds in general? I wasn't on methadone when I went in but not sure this is true? You will be seen by a doctor as part of your induction before even getting onto the first night wing. It's part of the risk assessment they have to do before agreeing you're safe to be kept inside. If they think you're not safe you'll go straight to the hospital wing until such time as the Prison can negotiate a transfer to a more appropriate secure place. Either way, any requirement for medication will be put in place there and then.

If you're rattling your tits off in a way that can be objectively tested or at least have all the hallmarks of a junkie they will usually give out something right there. They'll take a sample for a drug test and worry about stopping the meds later if it comes back negative. At the very least there will certainly be something in place by the following morning. I had DF's and Nitrazepam in my hand as I got locked into my pad for the first night both sentences I did. This is 11 - 12 years ago. If anything things have improved since then.
 
Sepher said:
Are you talking methadone specifically, or detox meds in general? I wasn't on methadone when I went in but not sure this is true? You will be seen by a doctor as part of your induction before even getting onto the first night wing. It's part of the risk assessment they have to do before agreeing you're safe to be kept inside. If they think you're not safe you'll go straight to the hospital wing until such time as the Prison can negotiate a transfer to a more appropriate secure place. Either way, any requirement for medication will be put in place there and then.

If you're rattling your tits off in a way that can be objectively tested or at least have all the hallmarks of a junkie they will usually give out something right there. They'll take a sample for a drug test and worry about stopping the meds later if it comes back negative. At the very least there will certainly be something in place by the following morning. I had DF's and Nitrazepam in my hand as I got locked into my pad for the first night both sentences I did. This is 11 - 12 years ago. If anything things have improved since then.
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i agree, i only said 2 days because the nicks are full and you could, especially for holloway, be held in a police holding cell till a bed comes up. Thats why i said ask for a doc as opposed to speaking to the reception panel. If you are prepared for delays they prob wont happen, sods law
 
I will be doing a full on methadone detox
i have not long stabalised on it
but i will need to see the doc right away as i am schizophrenic and so need meds daily for that
i am also on methotrexate which means i have to have regular blood tests
all this means i will spend a lotta time in hospital wing
 
I am concerned about this not seeing a doc for 2 days after going in-makes me think that taking a few DFs would be wise
but as I said,it is not just junkie sickness-I have to have anti-psychotics every day so hopefully they will get e to the doc pretty quickly
I am planning to go see my GP before i go and get all my meds and doses correct
atm i am prescribed 1x5mg valium 'as required'
they know that I take 15-20mg but not every day-I am careful to not get a habit
I would like for my GP to change me to clonazepam if possible,which I find much more effective
and to at least make the doses clear so there are no questioning of it when I do get to see a doc
She's usually pretty good so hopefully it will be ok
 
Bojangles that is some crazy shit,I can't even imagine dude...I'm glad I read it tho, I never intend to go to prison but some solid advice just in case definitely is great
 
I spent a week in jail and luckily got charged dropped that would've given me a lot longer term. In the end it was a blessing because it could've been a LOT worse. My lifestyle was going crazy, and I would've ended up doing 20+ years or being murdered. Look at jail as a time to meditate and really work on yourself. Everyone who I know who has done time honestly says that it was overall a good experience for them. Learn from your mistakes, friend, life is not lost.
 
wear like 5 pairs of boxers and socks before you go into court, try and get money on your books, read, write, work out, attend AA/NA meetings. Jail really sucks, but
honestly last time i went in it was almost a relief compared to how shitty i was living on the outside. People dont really fuck with you that much, they'll try and test you. see how youll react to certain things, push your buttons, but if you just keep cool, confident, and positive youll most likely end up making friends. Make the best of your time while your in there. hate to say it, but for me it was almost a blessing in disguise. once that detox phase is over, keep your body and mind strong. Reading and exercise will safe you a lot of grief. "ask a nigga doin life if he had another chance, but then again theres always the wicked that knew in advance"
 
I hear prison is way better then jail tho (if your doing a good bit of time) I just hope its not like an episode of OZ lol
 
In UK jail and prison are the same thing

appearing tomorrow to plead at crown court
i thought i would get my money paid in today and would be able to buy tickets for the bus to get there
but no-somehow the day i get paid has changed so major panic this morning thinking i won't be able to go
anyway i have just about enough for a one way ticket so brought that
just pray ££ goes through tomorrow or i am stick in ipswich till it does
and this is gonna cost me a fortune buying one way tickets
 
plead guilty but to passing my phone and bank card to the dealer or the runner
and guilty to posession of clonazepam and growing 2 fucking plants
fact is the judge works from guidelines and even as me being at the lowest level,we are looking at 5years-then we have to start shaving them off.I had to plead guilty to something cos i really can't have them digging any further.
sentencing has been set for fri 13th april
in the meantime i have to get probation reports
the judge doesn't want to factor in my mental health issues
I know they are gonna throw the book at me
I'm so fucked-was ready to jump out of the fire door54 on the bus on the way home
thought about doing a runner-skipping the country
desperate times
I am no criminal and they will spot that right away when i get to jail
i will be eaten alive
plus i have that meth rattle to look forward to
 
just had my probation report for pre sentencing
she said she would recommend a suspended sentence
I really don't want to get my hopes up
but I had got myself all ready for at least a year inside
now I can't help but hope the judge will go with the probation report
I am also having a psychiatric report despite the judge not being bothered
hope I get a different judge this time-the last one was well harsh
also have supporting letters from other sources that we can present
why does it have to be friday 13th??maybe it will be lucky for me but maybe not
 
I'm crossing my fingers for you. Would probation include support services? I am thinking back to when you first posted at the beginning of this thread.You felt so bad about your family and how they saw you and I remember thinking that you had to deal with the threat of jail when what you really needed to deal with was your own pain and sadness--and that you had no support for that. I remember thinking that it would be so much better if we had a world that cared instead of one that punished.

I hope that you get a better judge and I hope that you get probation but what I really hope is that you can begin to heal yourself and your life. You have had to be very brave throughout this ordeal and it shows that you have a lot of strength and courage. <3
 
Wow i have just read the whole thread....Now you have time to get your methadone habit down a bit kkat?...I really think you should...I mean ive cold turkeyed to fruition several times and i never ever want to do it agin...That was off oxies...Now ive been on methadone for 8 months or more, i dont dont count, and almost as soon as i stabalised i started to taper down...I was at 115mg and now im hitting 80mg tomorrow...SO far its been painless, I think you be much better off to do it in your time in your home kkat....methadone is supposed to be a bad one...The best way to go is get down to 40 mg or so and swap to bupe then taper off that...
I understand where the others are coming from when they say in jail its easier to C.T, but at home youve got hot baths and showers ( even with your aversion to them, they will be necessary IMHO), pot perhaps and "other" things you would have access to..Privacy to spew and crap yourself at the same time...and theres more...

But not in jail...you will be doing it hard there...Please for your own sake i really really hope you taper down as low as you can go...I was injecting enough morphine to kill several people kkat, my doses were pretty unbelievable..i did a two week...thats two week rapid detox on subutex..Do you have subutex and soboxone in UK? It was painless..I had been an addict for 2 years and was fine and dandy in two weeks...

Above all kkat, i wish you the best for April..I will be thinking of you and hoping for your suspended sentence..I will check on here and hope to see the good news..Im sure you wont be eaten alive..If i was religious id pray for you, but im not, so ill wish you the best....Last but most important kkat Dont dont dont take drugs into a jail!!! Please OP, its just plain stupid...Dont make your life worse...Taking drugs into a jail is not good.
 
Miss Kirsty said:
Wow i have just read the whole thread....Now you have time to get your methadone habit down a bit kkat?...I really think you should...I mean ive cold turkeyed to fruition several times and i never ever want to do it agin...That was off oxies...Now ive been on methadone for 8 months or more, i dont dont count, and almost as soon as i stabalised i started to taper down...I was at 115mg and now im hitting 80mg tomorrow...SO far its been painless, I think you be much better off to do it in your time in your home kkat....methadone is supposed to be a bad one...The best way to go is get down to 40 mg or so and swap to bupe then taper off that...
I understand where the others are coming from when they say in jail its easier to C.T, but at home youve got hot baths and showers ( even with your aversion to them, they will be necessary IMHO), pot perhaps and "other" things you would have access to..Privacy to spew and crap yourself at the same time...and theres more...

But not in jail...you will be doing it hard there...Please for your own sake i really really hope you taper down as low as you can go...I was injecting enough morphine to kill several people kkat, my doses were pretty unbelievable..i did a two week...thats two week rapid detox on subutex..Do you have subutex and soboxone in UK? It was painless..I had been an addict for 2 years and was fine and dandy in two weeks...

Above all kkat, i wish you the best for April..I will be thinking of you and hoping for your suspended sentence..I will check on here and hope to see the good news..Im sure you wont be eaten alive..If i was religious id pray for you, but im not, so ill wish you the best....Last but most important kkat Dont dont dont take drugs into a jail!!! Please OP, its just plain stupid...Dont make your life worse...Taking drugs into a jail is not good.
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only 2 weeks to sentencing so no time to taper
I am on 60ml methadone but I have been using for 18years(apart from a clean period of a few months)
I used subs to get clean before and they were great but fort some reason my metabolism runs about 3 times slower than most peoples and I have tried many times to go from gear to subs and failed cos of the sickness-really think i would struggle big time to go from meth to subs
been into solicitors today-if only the judge will go with the pre sentencing report..I will want to use that opportunity to make a big change in my life-foremost is getting opiate free
my concern is that if I quit inside cos i am forced to that I might go back to it when I get out
I a thinking of just taking a few DFs with me cos I am going on a friday so I don't expect to be prescribed any opiates over the weekend
 
well,after all that hope yesterday the CPS has decided they don't believe my bullshit story
so now i have to go and argue my case
good luck getting any sense out of me in court
do they try many schizophrenics these days?
I am now convinced that I might well get the full 5yrs after all
this is not the way to keep me clean off the gear for sure
 
kkattastic said:
well,after all that hope yesterday the CPS has decided they don't believe my bullshit story
so now i have to go and argue my case
good luck getting any sense out of me in court
do they try many schizophrenics these days?
I am now convinced that I might well get the full 5yrs after all
this is not the way to keep me clean off the gear for sure
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You'll only do half that though- A few years is not a significant amount of time in the grand scheme of things. I don't know about the withdrawals but it WILL make you a stronger person. Just take it a step at a time, be a ride in the park.
 
i just got out of jail march 6. its a tough spot to be but youll be alright. they will have mental health people in there, they do have meds. its there responsibilty for your health, mental and physical. just be strong the best things to do are read and work out.
 
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