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Dawsons Rave

They advertised this particular episode as "The episode every parent should watch!"...the moral that was portrayed - from what i saw - was that pplz on anti dep medication shouldn't fuck with ecstasy...does that mean the ppl that arent on any such meds are free to drop as they please? Will my parents agree? Or am I just too optimisitc?
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Dawson's Creek stimulates a good discussion!
Sorry, ChEmIcaL_NiGhT I have to Q this one.
"mixing e and antidepressants (ssir's) now that's why she's going to fry some brain"
Hmmmm, I don't know about that.
I think we need to be aware of what type antidepressant we are talking about. I was under the impression that mixing E with MAOIs would cause problems, however mixing E with SSRIs (prozac) generally reduces the roll, and SSRIs are used by some people to reduce E induced brain damage.
 
its true that antidepressant SSRIs may stop or reduce certain effects of ecstacy, i didnt think they would cause someone to collapse, but who knows what her supposed medication was.
i think supposedly taking SSRIs after ecstacy may perhaps reduce the effects of neurotoxicity, apparently.
 
"I think we need to be aware of what type antidepressant we are talking about. I was under the impression that mixing E with MAOIs would cause problems, however mixing E with SSRIs (prozac) generally reduces the roll, and SSRIs are used by some people to reduce E induced brain damage. "
Yes taking ssir's afterwards is a good thing but b4hand (like within a few days) i thought could lead to serotonin syndrome.. Its blocks the serotonin receptors leading to
more serotonin in the synapse..... or something like that..
but i may be wrong.. i can't remeber what they said the name of the medicine was, but they did say....
 
Have to say, I am on Fluoxetine (generic-Prozac),and I find the effects of pills greatly reduced, but the comedown less harsh,i.e. less of an e-tarded feeling. I watched Dawson's with equal amounts of appall and surprise, that they found it necessary to portray the scene that way..no one was smiling for gods sake. If Meredith whatever her character is was on anti-psychotics, such as Ritalin, then from my knowledge something akin to fitting is likly to happen to her.
 
The anti-psychotics have heaps of major side effects, but I don't think Ritalin is an anti-psychotic. It's more like speed.
Ritalin: Methylphenidate is a stimulant drug, as are amphetamines. It can be used to help as part of the treatment for the symptoms of hyperactivity or Attention Deficit (Hyperactivity) Disorder (ADHD). Methylphenidate can help the child's abilities to concentrate and to reduce overactivity and destructive behaviour.
There is some good info in Medical Q & A
http://www.bluelight.ru/ubb/Forum15/HTML/002046.html?reload=13
Good discussion, BTY.
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i have to admit i was quite surprised that it wasnt just the pill (that giant pink lolly!) that fucked andy over, that at least they explained she got into trubble by mixing medication and pills....
but the funnies thing was when (dont know his name, that jaded rich kid) called jen an 'ooober raver' AHAHHAHAHAH! WHAT!?!?!?!
BUT most of all WHY DONT WE HAVE JUMPING THINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that is one of the things i have always wanted at a rave, and the fucking dawsons creek loosers get one? SO UNFAIR!!!!!!!!!!
and whoever said katie holmes is *drool* shes SO NOT... ik... she scares me... her head is kinda lopsided somehow... hehe sorry
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and she pouts WAY too often...
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U could tell they were referring to MAOIs that Andy was on, causing serotonin syndrome.
Jack said at the hospital, the doctors said her anti-deps are a time bomb if taken with a lot of things. (this is true of MAOIs, people on these things are advised not even to eat cheese.)
SSRIs: regular use; MDMA has less effect, not dangerous.
Taking one an hour into a roll, very dangerous; traps an enormous amount of serotonin in the synapse. -> serotonin syndrome.
Taking one at the end of a roll as we all know meant to be rather beneficial. U trap your last little bit of serotonin in the synapse, allowing a smoother come-down and allegely reduced neurotoxicity.
I agree with rc1n and someone on the first page. I think its good that the target audience, mid-teens, would see something like this. I despair at 15-16yr old people i know taking pills more often than i do; and with about 1% of the knowledge that most of us possess.
However i think it would have been better to have her collapse from dehydration/overheating. U saw that she never stopped running around or drank. And the other girl spent the whole time trying to find her to give her water.
Most of these kids will be like, "well she was on medication, i'm not, so i'll be fine." But heat exhaustion and other problems could happen to anybody; and hence i think would have had a greater impact.
Better this aimed at impressionable young 16yr olds than the utter crap on 60 minutes earlier in the year aimed at the middle age fools running our society.
 
sassy, one of those castles was at the day rave at swimburne uni last year. (behind casey's) and no-one was in it!!
looks like a alot of fun though!
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rollin' and strollin', its kinda like bowlin'. my head's kinda big and it feels kinda swollin'!!
 
sass!! i miss ya babe! Where have you been? Going to pleazure???? I wanna roll down big hills with u!!!!!!
And after my hey-day is over, I want to be known as an uber-raver as well. Although I kinda think ive missed my chance
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People say that kissing a raver is like licking an entire sheet of LSD while sitting in a Honda Civic full of Nitrous. It's great. You should try it sometime. I mean, DON'T. Raves are bad, mmmkay?
 
Moister horseykinZ!! *big hugglZ*
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ah i have been here and there, juss accidently took a holl from BL
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YEAH we should go grass hill rolling (scuze the pun!)
and btw i spelt ooober wrong on purpose
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hehe i like it better that way
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so bite me :P
AND DEATH TO DAWSON! I HATE THAT BOY!
in fact any teenager with that many social and political ans personal dramas should b put out of their misery i say!
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u know when 90210 was on, people in america were so passionate about hating brenda, they had 'I HATE BREBDA' tshirts made! and people attacked shannon doherty if they saw her...
well i wanna start the I HATE DAWSON rage, whos in?
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I agree with Biscuit 100%
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especially about the effects of SSRI's taken at different stages of the experience. I couldnt have phrased it better myself
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The fact that anti-depressants and MDMA DO NOT MIX is not well known enough IMHO..and for all you know this episode will save some lives out there.
Andie was on Paxil of i am not wrong...i'm looking thru the transcritps again to be sure.
Everyone here has already mentioned this but im gonna mention it again. If you are on anti-depressants, STAY AWAY FROM MDXX, SSRIs reduce the effect and MAOIs MAY cause neurotoxicity.
Read more about it in the DD FAQ (provided you can get in
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I thought Andy was on Nardil (an MAOI). I'm not sure, but I don't know where else I would have heard the word.
anyway..
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I LOVE THE SHOW!
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"We risk sanity for moments of temporary enlightenment"
 
they should have a new charater in the show called "nick". nick is a drug dealer. nick meets all the girls in the show (including all the mums) and invites them to his condo. nick spikes all their drinks with G, and procedes to have sex with all of them.
"on dawsons creek this week, nick gets em sick and shows em the dick..."
dawsons creek will die when they all leave school. can somebody say 90210....
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I like this nick fellow, i think i would like to subsribe to his magazine.
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It's good to see a message getting out there, but it makes me cringe the way they have to do it. There are plenty of 13 year old teeny boppers watching dawson's creek, and let's be realistic, seeing bitchpants fuck up on E, is going to make them more curous rather than "OMG! Dawson OD!!".
I can't wait to become a primary school chemical dealer.
 
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