Crack or Iv Coke

[FrostyMcFailure]

FC, what is the point of IVing ROCKS?? I know enough about Quwack and enough about shootin Raw. From my personal perspective IVing rock isnt as enjoyable. The main difference is Backing soda or Ammonia.. Okie, why would you IV baking soda or ammonia when you could just IV raw coke and produce the same if not purer effect? Im not trying to insult you or anything, im just generally confused as to why anyone would choose to IV crack over raw cocaine.

 

[TheodoreRoosevelt]

Wow you're bad Frosty...

Obviously, you know nothing about "quwack" and "raw". Nothing.

Cocaine powder is really Cocaine HCl. Crack cocaine, on the other hand, freebase, is just Cocaine. Salts generally dissolve in water very easily, as is the case with coke salts. Crack doesn't dissolve at all in water, so you have to turn it into a salt. Adding an acid to crack will create a salt. You can even add hydrochloric acid to crack to turn it into regular run of the mill powder.

Generally people don't add HCl to crack to IV it because it's such a strong acid, maybe if you diluted it to .01 molarity or something...

There's nothing "retarted" about iving rock, any more then it is to IV straight powder. The same thing is going on - add liquid to drug. With crack you just add a simple drop of acid, be it ascorbate, hcl, acetate, etc.

There is no "purer effect" from what you shoot with. Cocaine is cocaine is cocaine, and salt forms of cocaine are still the same pharmacodynamically.

Many IV coke enthusiasts actually prefer crack because street crack is generally purer than street powder. Purity is much easier to gauge and more consistent.

Coke is coke is crack is coke is crack is crack is coke. It's all the same thing. Crack is a freebase, just add a 'base' to it and it'll dissolve just as easily. It's no different.

 

[TheodoreRoosevelt]

There's nothing worse about IVing rock from coke, if anything it'd be better.

It's the same drug people. It's not hard to make your own crack, or turn crack into powder. Not hard to make either dissolve into water easily.

 

[xxxanaxxx]

I find them all to be different. IV crack has never really done too much for me, tried it many times. When I have rocks I stick to smoking them. IV coke seems to be different than smoking crack to me, crack is more enjoyable for me if I had a choice. IV coke is good but definetly different than smoking rocks. When I have powder I shoot it rather than snort it but usually don't bother rocking it up to smoke it because they both make me feel good and im lazy

 

[TheodoreRoosevelt]

I find them all to be different. IV crack has never really done too much for me, tried it many times.

I find it very hard to believe you think IV crack is different from IV coke. In fact, I don't believe it.

 

[TheodoreRoosevelt]

"IV crack has never really done too much for me"

Yea definitely bs didn't pay much to that the first time. If you IV anything you'll definitely notice it...

 

[Fight Club]

FC, what is the point of IVing ROCKS?? I know enough about Quwack and enough about shootin Raw. IVing rock is retarted. The main difference is Backing soda or Ammonia.. Okie, why would you IV baking soda or ammonia when you could just IV raw coke and produce the same if not purer effect? Im not trying to insult you or anything, im just generally confused as to why anyone would choose to IV crack over raw cocaine.

How old are you? I suspect that I got my degree in Chemistry before you were born . .

FC

 

[FrostyMcFailure]

adding vinegar (acetic acid) 2 rock is turning it back to coke, basically just adding an acetate salt to the free base turning it back to salt. wont it act the same as Cocaine HCL anyway? Correct if im wrong, im trying to start a grill or talk trash, iv better things to do. i really dont get why someone would IV rock tho. Im 17 as iv stated in earlier posts.

 

[Kosloff]

Crack is Cocaine, theyre still the same drug.
I can imagine the reason someone would shoot crack is;
A) They dont have the time or the ingredients to turn it to Cocaine hcl.
B) They dont know that you can turn it into cocaine hcl or dont know how to do it.
C) As someone wrote in this thread, it was more "pure".

Myself i dont know, i have never IVed Crack, only powder Cocaine because we have no market for crack here in Sweden, no one sells it so those of us who wants to smoke rock we have to cook our crack from our powder.
And to me it makes no sense to make Crack cocaine just to shoot it.

 

[TheodoreRoosevelt]

adding vinegar (acetic acid) 2 rock is turning it back to coke, basically just adding an acetate salt to the free base turning it back to salt. wont it act the same as Cocaine HCL anyway? Correct if im wrong, im trying to start a grill or talk trash, iv better things to do. i really dont get why someone would IV rock tho. Im 17 as iv stated in earlier posts.

Yes, it will act the same as cocaine hcl. Which is why there's no difference or anything worse about shooting cocaine acetate and cocaine hcl.

Most coke enthusiasts I've heard of prefer getting crack off the street for their dope than coke, because the general purity of crack is much higher and consistent than powder.

There's nothing wrong with shooting a small amount of weak acid into you. Most drugs are salts, which usually end up being acidic in a solution anyways. Salts generally break down into acids when added with water, although neutral salts and basic salts exist too.

People IV rock for the same reason they IV coke, to get fucking high. You still make it a solution, it's not only unhealthy to IV large solid particulate matter, it's kinda impossible...

 

[jersey drape]

I would have to say that IV cocaine is one of the most intense rushes i've ever experienced. It's more intense than heroin for me but the come down is incredibly horrible... I would NEVER use IV coke again without Heroin. I've spent countless nights locked in my room stabbing the shit out of my arms going for that next hit, but then again, anything with me and cocaine is extremely obsessive whether its snorting, smoking, shooting... I HAVE to do as much as I can as fast as I can for as long as I can... I've abused cocaine for a decade and can pretty much say that i've experienced every high and low that it can give you and if i were to ever touch it again, like i said, it would be IV'ed, and with heroin...

 

[TheodoreRoosevelt]

If you IV coke only do it once per day.

I used to do alot of IV coke, and every time I'd use I'd use just one time, before bed. After 20 minutes of an extreme high, I would be so worn out by the high I'd be sleeping like a baby. I've had it where I had to pull over on the side of the road and catch 40 winks after shooting up before grocery shopping.

But if you shoot just one more time, then it suddenly turns into a nice night-time relaxer to a fucking fiendfest. I've only injected more then once in a night once, and I ended up doing 4 grams in one night. What a terrible night, couldn't sleep for 48 hours and had such extreme tachycardia that I couldn't move without starting to lose consciousness. It was a constant 120+ BPM for about 6 hours straight.

It was triggered by shooting up when I was taking a hot shower, so I'm sure many of you have heard how adamant I am against taking hot showers on stimulants and how dangerous it is.

But point is, is that cocaine can knock your ass out to sleep and have no crash at all if you do it just once. It does for me at least and I used to do alot back in the day.

 

[jgoshow]

look....real simple.....you need to decide...yourself....and only you....but first research fightclub, theo (TR), and my own darksides on IV coke...too all you people encouraging him...FUCK OFF! you have no idea what the fuck your talking about...your little rigs couldnt even draw up my past solutions and the purity you guys prolly had was shit!!!
#1 if you got your shit in a bag...its been cut...trash! i procured mine wrapped in coca leaves and topped in a kero soaked rag and have done a ph test it came back 87% pure...most of you are lucky to even had 30%.....you could snort a line and get a bell ringer off the shit i shoved in my arms.....ive been quiet for awhile till now and all you mfers that think you know what the hell your talking about can blow me.....try having your heart stopped!!! or blowing 27 thousand dollars for a key and last a week.....this shit will kill you....FC , and TR, this excludes you as we have all had conversations on this....by the way im still clean!!!!! i even lost track on how long

 

[TheodoreRoosevelt]

I don't have much darkside on coke and my experiences aren't really much to look into. Thanks for the compliments but since my IV use was relatively short (like a 5 month love affair) and since I was pretty responsible with my drug use (only shot once per day), I never really got into any darkside.

My only negative experience came from IVing cocaine in a hot shower, and it's the only trainwreck I've ever had regarding drugs and my health. I've been ridiculed on this forum before because it sounds kinda silly, but it's not joke. Mixing hot showers or water in general, and stimulants, can be extremely deadly. There's a reason why public hot-tubs say don't go in if you have heart issues, pregnancy, or old.

I don't mean to say my shit is any good, it was okay but definitely not the best. But you should notice that the "fiend-factor" will be reduced to nearly zero if you only dose once. Fiending snowballs (no pun intended) when you take the second, third, and so on dose. But if you just take one hit for the day, when the high wears off you'll feel as calm and sleepy and relaxed like a 2 year old baby.

By the way did you have another account or something? You talk like you know me, but you call me theo and no one does that .____.

 

[jgoshow]

no i just didnt feel likr typing and i mistaken you for sandbag...been a rough week....sorry....ive done the one shot thing..not by choice but it was relaxing and id have to agree with you....but thats after calling everyone you know for another fix...LOL

 

[TheodoreRoosevelt]

Well I didn't and never really did take drugs to party, so obviously there are differences in how and why we are taking the drug...

 

[EveryStar]

I finally decided to IV coke today, even though I kept thinking I would instantly be hooked, especially considering how easily I got addicted to snorting it, yet, to my surprise, I found it to be quite less addictive than snorting it.
I did 2-3 times throughout the night, and I had no problems spacing the shots out an hour or two apart, because it just felt so satisfying, I didn't keep on craving it after each shot.

I'm really with TheodoreRoosevelt on this one, IVed coke is really not as bad as people make it out to be. For me, it felt exactly as he described: I'd get an intense high for at least a good 20 minutes or more, then by the 45 minute point I'd come down and just feel kind of sleepy and tired, not really fiending for more. It just feels much more gratifying than snorting it, because you truly feel perfectly content and euphoric, instead of just getting a short-lived high that you keep on chasing through the night.

I can see why people get addicted to the rush easily though. It's definitely the most intense thing I've experienced, and very enjoyable, but I honestly don't feel any need whatsoever to do another shot after the initial rush wears off, because I'm just left feeling perfectly happy for the rest of the time, and doing another shot while still completely fucked would just seem overwhelming and pointless.

Just my 2 cents, even though I don't know why it seems to be a different experience for me than most people apparently.

 

[StevanskiJR]

Dont mean to sound like a dick, but IV'ing coke usually kills within 2 years flat - if that. it's by far the worst habit a human can have. within months, you will have virtually no veins. you will not eat, sleep, have sex or do anything but shoot coke over and over and over and over all day and night, every 5 minutes. when its gone, you go insane and try to get more no matter what it takes. suicide is common and death comes wayyy way to early.

i'd think twice about shooting coke.

it makes IV heroin look almost harmless and its far worse than meth also.

I believe u being new to shooting coke (re-rock) soft press and now smoking it. Id rather smoke than sniff. My disease just progresses

 

[StevanskiJR]

For many people the needles, the blood, the collapsed veins are simply too much, whatever the high.

My feeling is that most bad addiction cases with coke are snorters, because snorting is the easiest and most practical way of administration. Remember that many IVers are snorters whose nose can't take it any more.

Think of alcohol. I'm sure you can get a hell of a buzz injecting or plugging alcohol but most alcoholics are drinkers.

If you want to experience IV coke, by all means do so, there's only one life and it's good to experience everything at least once. But don't base your consumption strategy on IVing! In my experience (I IVd 3 x) a good thick toke of good crack gives you the same buzz as a shot of blow, with only a fraction of the downside. You may feel miserable when you go to bed after 24 hours hitting the pipe, but at least you don't have both arms dripping with blood like some Jesus Christ figure and you don't have to wear long-sleeve shirts for the next 4 weeks.

One thick toke of rock ALMOST gives u the rush u get from IV'ing...but 4 sure not as intense or crazy

 

[StevanskiJR]

I had a severe reaction from injecting to much cocaine I had done about 2 grams in 20 mins and on the last shot my eyes starting flipping inside my skull my skin burned up I fell to the ground cause my knees gave out I couldnt see for atleats 2 mins I thought my heart was gonna stop and I was gonna die. finally I could see again but then got violently ill I went to the hospital an hour later and my pulse was still almost 3 times what it should have been. they gave me 4mg of ativan and I finally felt normal. so yeah dont shoot coke

I had an experience like that. I shot up about a half gram of semi cut somewhat re rock coke. Next thing u know my girl is standing across the room from me with the phone in her hand and said she called 911 and the ambulance was on its way. I had a seizure for about 3-7 minutes and was awake when the medics got there. I still went to teh hospital. Which cost me alot of money but it was worth it. They hit me with some shit that calmed my heart5 down and stabilzed me. But all I could think about was the 5 grams of powder I had left and one gram of heroin I had to come down with while I was at the hospital. INSANITY!!! Drugs are bad mmmK