Stimulants Considering Methamphetamine

[YusufIslam]

This thread reminded me of a show I saw a week or so ago about the Meth scene in Australia. I was absolutely floored at the prices (I do know the rules) they had to pay to get that stuff. I mean 4-6 times the going rate in the US. I have no idea how anyone there could possibly afford it at all. That stuff was more valuable than equal weights of gold, true! Anyway, I just thought that was a rather astounding fact regarding meth I just couldn't pass up after reading this entire thread. Hope that was unspecific enough on price to be OK here.

1 You will be even more flood to know that meth goes for even higher in prison in Australia as well as the fact that the majority of crystal meth sold in Australia today is almost completely l-meth heavily cut with.

2 It's because we pay the highest amount for drugs in Australia that group's who manufacture them go out of their way to traffick them to Australia as they can make far more money here in a much smaller amount of time than anywhere else in the world.

 

[xXTheGrimOneXx]

People who actually know what the effects of different drugs are and have actually used dextromethamphetamine (regularly) and racemic. If you get peripheral effects especially serve vasoconstriction then you will know it's racemic meth. If on the other you get the dopamine and serotonin release that gets you high without any/very little peripheral effects than you have dextromethamphetamine

You can literally check which isomer you have in a shard with light and a polarized filter. Left is Levo. Right is Dextro.

 

[xXTheGrimOneXx]

I think most of the impurities get eliminated during synthesis.

Meth gets a bad rap because of how "dirty" it is, and the way people act while they're on it, but the idea that folks are injecting battery acid & acetone into their veins is pretty much propaganda IMO.

You have to wash impurities and recrystallize to purify.

 

[xXTheGrimOneXx]

Over here in the UK, we don't have impure Meth in the same way as those in the US do. It's never gripped hold of the scene even in Dex form, and MSM cutting is only just becoming common. We already have Racemic Amphetamine Sulphate to take the place of "Crank" though.

It’s all the same shit. It’s P2P synthesis resulting in racemic meth. Resolution of the isomers by tartric acid.

Amphetamine sulphate isn’t about compared to meth.

 

[xXTheGrimOneXx]

I got the impression that the 'gakking out' was more due to the L-isomer of racemic meth causing involuntarily muscular spasms. If I did it, I'd stay at home and maybe go outside at night for a dogging hookup.

They resolve the isomers in the lab. Optical rotation to D iso with tartric acid. Do some research.

 

[xXTheGrimOneXx]

Quoted for truth

Also ppl say oh make sure to get d-meth. Who the fuck is going to know whether there getting racemic or d-meth? I bet most meth is racemic too.

Polarized filter and light will tell
You the isomer. Resolve with tartric acid. It’s not fucking rocket science

 

[Pirrracetamol]

I'm only gonna try meth once

 

[zedonis]

For the longest time I've been fascinated by crystal meth. I've watched every documentary available on the subject and read nearly all of the Erowid trip reports plus numerous threads about harm-reduction on here and other forums.

I am well aware that this is not a drug to be taken lightly, but also that some aspects of its mythos are overblown by media propaganda. I am bored of having the same old circular internal dialogue with myself of wanting to try it and talking myself out of it, because I can't seem to reach a conclusion one way or another. I've compiled the following list of pros, cons and mitigating factors; perhaps some of you who are familiar with this particular drug could give me advice on whether I'm being way too uptight. The truth is I'm bored with everything else and want something I can smoke that makes me feel great without being out of it (weed, DMT etc), and I'm not interested in crack or heroin.


Pros:

Best high ever
Sexual confidence to have a random hook-up
Extreme focus on hobbies and projects
Can be smoked/vaped (I really, really love the act of smoking, only done it with weed and DMT [which tastes like shit] before)
Weight loss


Cons:

Neurotoxic/cytotoxic
Addictive
Expensive
Comedown
Facilitates sexually risky behaviour
Disrupted sleep architecture



Mitigating:

Good physical health: diet, exercise, and already take the supplements listed for harm-reduction
Not readily available due to location, culture and having no local friends, nor any friends who do drugs
Never craved more after doing other stims (dex, add, coke)
Never really had much of a comedown from anything else
Am on Zoloft (100 mg daily) for BPD and MDD
D-isomer-only ice
Would prepare with food, supplements, brushing teeth, chewing gum, condoms, have benzos on hand


Disclaimer: I currently have no plans to do it, this is just really a sounding board to try and reconcile a nagging curiosity that won't go away no matter how much I talk to myself abou

For the longest time I've been fascinated by crystal meth. I've watched every documentary available on the subject and read nearly all of the Erowid trip reports plus numerous threads about harm-reduction on here and other forums.

I am well aware that this is not a drug to be taken lightly, but also that some aspects of its mythos are overblown by media propaganda. I am bored of having the same old circular internal dialogue with myself of wanting to try it and talking myself out of it, because I can't seem to reach a conclusion one way or another. I've compiled the following list of pros, cons and mitigating factors; perhaps some of you who are familiar with this particular drug could give me advice on whether I'm being way too uptight. The truth is I'm bored with everything else and want something I can smoke that makes me feel great without being out of it (weed, DMT etc), and I'm not interested in crack or heroin.


Pros:

Best high ever
Sexual confidence to have a random hook-up
Extreme focus on hobbies and projects
Can be smoked/vaped (I really, really love the act of smoking, only done it with weed and DMT [which tastes like shit] before)
Weight loss


Cons:

Neurotoxic/cytotoxic
Addictive
Expensive
Comedown
Facilitates sexually risky behaviour
Disrupted sleep architecture



Mitigating:

Good physical health: diet, exercise, and already take the supplements listed for harm-reduction
Not readily available due to location, culture and having no local friends, nor any friends who do drugs
Never craved more after doing other stims (dex, add, coke)
Never really had much of a comedown from anything else
Am on Zoloft (100 mg daily) for BPD and MDD
D-isomer-only ice
Would prepare with food, supplements, brushing teeth, chewing gum, condoms, have benzos on hand


Disclaimer: I currently have no plans to do it, this is just really a sounding board to try and reconcile a nagging curiosity that won't go away no matter how much I talk to myself about it.

Its really not that big of a deal just gotta take care of yourself when you get high drink plenty of water gotta eat even if you dont wont to milkshakes help with that but yeah I would recommend having somthing to poke on meth makes sex insanely better

 

[YusufIslam]

You can literally check which isomer you have in a shard with light and a polarized filter. Left is Levo. Right is Dextro.

Please provide the scientific instructions for doing this and that it's accurate compared to actually getting meth tested at a laboratory

 

[mindseye888]

It hits all those positive feel good receptors. Be careful, stay hydrated, eat up when you can, with some common sense, respect of a substance, solid dosing technique it's all good. What goes up must come down, don't let a substance own you, keep it recreational for financial, tolerance and health and your good. If your going to chase a circle of clouds and never expect to come down, don't even attempt to touch it.