Coming off Invega/Xeplion (paliperidone) injections v11

[Deleted member 592205]

@Kiaf852 Healed.
Recovery Story
Had two loading injections.
Healing process took 17 months.

Here we go, another psychotic who recovered.. As i said, prove me wrong:

It seems to me that people who actually had psychosis and got treated with antipsychotics injections are more likely to full recover, since their brain produces way more dopamine it’s more easy and fast for them to go back to their baseline.

Instead people like me who got misdiagnosed and just damaged with antipsychotics injection usually don’t recover, because their brain was not producing more dopamine as the norm and they cant compensate the damage done by these injections.

From What I see here, only people who truly had psychosis and then got injected, make a full recovery, or i’am wrong?

 

[InvegaInferno]

Here we go, another psychotic who recovered.. As i said, prove me wrong:

I don't know bro, but I'll try to look into it. I do know though, within each episode of psychosis it does damage the brain, read more about post psychosis effects its similar to the effects of invega. So your comment about a psychotic being able to heal after invega because of that is not 100% absolute, and could only be because the brain heals or recovers naturally for most people.

 

[Deleted member 592205]

I don't know bro, but I'll try to look into it. I do know though, within each episode of psychosis it does damage the brain, read more about post psychosis effects its similar to the effects of invega. So your comment about a psychotic being able to heal after invega because of that is not 100% absolute, and could only be because the brain heals or recovers naturally for most people.

I just have a lot of fear, because i was just a normal dude, no mental issue, they injected me because of a wrong diagnosis, since that my life completely changed under every aspect, and i’am 15 months in this hell..

I just have a lot of fear that I won’t recover and my life is over at 28yo, when i got injected, now i’am 29yo and i already lost 15 months of my life because of a huge mistake (misdiagnosed).

I don’t want to blame people who suffered psychosis, i just fear that a non psychotic brain cannot heal himself due to non-hiperstimolation of dopamine production..

 

[InvegaInferno]

I just have a lot of fear, because i was just a normal dude, no mental issue, they injected me because of a wrong diagnosis, since that my life completely changed under every aspect, and i’am 15 months in this hell..

I just have a lot of fear that I won’t recover and my life is over at 28yo, when i got injected, now i’am 29yo and i already lost 15 months of my life because of a huge mistake (misdiagnosed).

I don’t want to blame people who suffered psychosis, i just fear that a non psychotic brain cannot heal himself due to non-hiperstimolation of dopamine production..

I get it brother, it is scary but the brain is known to heal even after a traumatic injury, a brain is a complex thing and everyone's brain is different so it depends on that factor, but here's someone who's never had psychosis who's claimed they haven't fully recovered but has healed. I can't tag their account since it's deleted.. but I suspect they might've recovered fully by now maybe.

seeing as i haven't been active too often, this will be my final post.

october 10th, 2024. i was surrounded by 4 people in my room alone, including the doctor seeing me at the psych ward. they began to tell me how invega is a good alternative to quitting drugs, seeing as they knew my history of marijuana use and other drugs. mind you, i've never personally experienced psychosis. i was in there for any support on drug use since all the rehab programs were full. they kept telling me that this injection would make me happy and calm. i have aspergers so i didn't know what to say back, i smiled and agreed with them. note, i have NEVER been on an antipsychotic before ever. only things for my bad adhd and anxiety. the next morning i received the shot, and that's when hell began. i was given one injection of 234mg, nothing more. they agreed to let me out for my mothers birthday if i complied with the shot, so fuck it. they trusted me to follow up with the second loading dose myself after leaving by giving my mother the box of the injection through CVS pharmacy. yes, they expected my mom to do it herself, we were not given the option of a nurse.

time passes, i never end up getting the second loading dose. i spent the whole month in the emergency rooms multiple times complaining to doctors about what had happened and they began to convince me invega leaves in a month and i'm just an anxious person. this happened multiple times. i was even threatened with being sent to an asylum instead of a normal hospital ward for 'being insane and delusional.' i had to suffer in silence while those people wanted me to get better. get better? you made it so i cant. 'anxious person.' i actually believed them for some time. until i found bluelight.

my mother and brother were very supportive during my recovery, sometimes skipping work to stay home with me, but they just didn't believe the injection would last this long. i mean, yeah it's a little bad to not believe your family, but can you blame them when 10 fucking doctors say i'm fine and cured?

anyways i had the same symptoms you all have. i don't wanna get into what it was like, just know i tried to kill myself many times and ended up hospitalized 5 more times. my mom began to threaten any doctor who thought another injection would work with legal action so i felt safer. it wasn't until february where i began to feel somewhat okay.

nowadays, almost 8 months later, i've lost all my invega weight. i've cried, listened to music all day and sang along, i've been able to keep a daily routine for 2-3 weeks now, i go to the gym often, etc. i'm not gonna sit here and say i'm fully recovered because like some of you say, my sleep is also pretty fucked. luckily weed helps with that, which i can feel. not sure about caffeine and nicotine since i don't take those. oh and plus the short term memory loss.

but is life okay? i'd say it is, more than okay. i'm getting back in shape, going out, playing guitar again, keeping my room clean, and i can kind of feel emotions again. my hair used to be a fucking rocky mess, it was curly and horribly matted and tangled since invega made me not even wanna wash it for weeks. i didn't care about anything. now it's silky long and i count only 2-3 hairs falling out compared to back then. i'm at a point where i'm satisfied with recovery. i'm hoping that years down the line i'll fully recover cause users like @t_xeplionhell give me hope, but for now, i'm just gonna keep moving forward. i don't know if it was because i didn't get the other loading shot, or if i was lucky, but i think i survived this nightmare for good. it's been nearly 2 months of constantly feeling normalish. i've since been off all medication and feeling much better.

please talk your shit and help get this fucking drug away from people who don't need it. or if it were me, ban injections for good.

so finally, not everything is perfect but as horrible as this may sound to you all, i'm okay that it happened. because now i can be a better me, not the me from before the shot who was a horrible mess with black trash bags taped to their windows, sometimes found blacked out on the floor from drug usage and severe selective mutism. i feel like it somehow gave me more confidence, less overthinking and more motivation to change my life. this is just me though. i'd say the gym and eating healthy really helped.

thank you, take care. - Rue

 

[anonymoususer777]

Here we go, another psychotic who recovered.. As i said, prove me wrong:

I know a guy who had weed induced psychosis who recovered in 12 months.

A girl with low dosage who was misdiagnosed recovered a lot in 6 months.

A guy who was misdiagnosed recovered 80% in 8 months.

Unless these people are lying, i think recovery is possible for misdiagnosed people too. I too was misdiagnosed.

I am not sure about @paranoid android and @InvegaInferno who both recoverd. Dont know if they were misdiagnosed.

 

[anonymoususer777]

Can anyone who recovered answer?
I Managed to have an erection for 15 minutes after no sexual action for days...dont know if this is a sign of recovery or just a temporary thing.
Are people who have not recovered or in the beginning of revovery acheiving any erection at all? Even for 5 minutes? I would really like to know.

 

[therendezvous]

 

[InvegaInferno]

I know a guy who had weed induced psychosis who recovered in 12 months.

A girl with low dosage who was misdiagnosed recovered a lot in 6 months.

A guy who was misdiagnosed recovered 80% in 8 months.

Unless these people are lying, i think recovery is possible for misdiagnosed people too. I too was misdiagnosed.

I am not sure about @paranoid android and @InvegaInferno who both recoverd. Dont know if they were misdiagnosed.

you mean @Invegatorture who has recovered before.

 

[beyondabove]

I know this i

My family doctor also belived me, but he told me he don’t know what to do to help me..

For you is 11 months, for me is 15 months, idk.. I will wait until 24 months, if I don’t recover i Will know that the damage is permanent, idk..

When i left the psych ward, i came home
To find out that my cat was missing and i was in the peak of the risperidone effects, i only tought about suicide for some months…

I find my cat after 4 months, if I suicided myself during these 4 months, i never get to the point where i find my cat, after 4 months, so i think about that everyday, like if I suicide i won’t see that day when i’am healed, but my limit is 24 months..

After 24 months of sympthoms i don’t think there is more logical reason to think these sympthoms are temporary rather than permanent, then i will have to kill myself, so maybe i will live the last 9 months of my life starting to the next week, when i reach 15 months.

Maybe i will recover, and be happy to not suicided myself before seeing that day coming, like i did for my cat, but find a cat and healing from this type of damage are two completely different things.

As i said, my ultimatum is 24 months, so i have 9 months and 1 week ahead of mi

My family doctor also belived me, but he told me he don’t know what to do to help me..

For you is 11 months, for me is 15 months, idk.. I will wait until 24 months, if I don’t recover i Will know that the damage is permanent, idk..

When i left the psych ward, i came home
To find out that my cat was missing and i was in the peak of the risperidone effects, i only tought about suicide for some months…

I find my cat after 4 months, if I suicided myself during these 4 months, i never get to the point where i find my cat, after 4 months, so i think about that everyday, like if I suicide i won’t see that day when i’am healed, but my limit is 24 months..

After 24 months of sympthoms i don’t think there is more logical reason to think these sympthoms are temporary rather than permanent, then i will have to kill myself, so maybe i will live the last 9 months of my life starting to the next week, when i reach 15 months.

Maybe i will recover, and be happy to not suicided myself before seeing that day coming, like i did for my cat, but find a cat and healing from this type of damage are two completely different things.

As i said, my ultimatum is 24 months, so i have 9 months and 1 week ahead of me.

I never received the shots but take invega in pill form and I found the side effects to be oppressive. As bad as this may sound and be but I turned to buying drugs on the DNMs, seeing what would give me any kind of euphoria to deal with the anhedonia i have while on APs. I used to be into opiates but those are a waste of money on APs as they hardly do anything. I did find that stimulants like coke or meth could give you a few days of euphoria on APs before needing to take a break for many weeks to get the same feeling. I know its not much but its way better than killing yourself even if its risky behavior. It could give you enough of a reward to give yourself more time to heal from the injections. I just think trying anything in this situation is better than being so hopeless on ever feeling good again that you would give yourself a deadline to heal. Maybe im just lucky im able to get the drug out of my system much faster as I get on cobenfy. I think you can recover from the shots but its going to take more patience.

 

[anonymoususer777]

you mean @Invegatorture who has recovered before.

Yes ...sorry @Invegatorture who recovered before...dont know if he had psychosis

 

[paranoid android]

I was in the hospital for almost a month and it does feel like I lost a little bit of my life to the psychosis and hospitalization but ironically the hospitalization wasn’t as bad because I admitted myself and had way worse ideas of what it was going to be like, but I also had visitors often who brought me some of my clothes and food (did not expect it) which made it a way better stay… I was still very much in psychosis when I got admitted so I don’t really remember what happened the first few days clearly… i remember them taking me to an area after I was in the er that had other people in there that freaked me out so bad I was actually so glad when they took me to the actual impatient unit. The first area felt like I was in jail for deciding to help myself. I actually managed to see some of the notes they took on me (I was on constant observation) and it’s like they weren’t really listening to a word me or my family were saying even though they literally wrote it down… just happy for it to be over.
I stayed in my room most of the time reading to avoid others and had to change rooms once because my roommate started getting aggressive
During my partial hospitalization program it felt way more raw so I was way more withdrawn and demotivated but after getting my job I just faked it until I actually felt better

My experience the psych ward was awful. The first half hour i was in there i was thrown in solitary for punching out a doctor after he refused me meds. When i got out i was refused all medications and i kept gettin thrown in solitary for fighting mostly security guards there. I was thrown in there about 6 times total ffs but kept getting refused any meds at all besides ativan in the ass everytime i got thrown in there.

Finally after 3 months and another fight i got a new shrink. This one actually listened to me and gave me invega which thankfully ended the psychosis.

I know a guy who had weed induced psychosis who recovered in 12 months.

A girl with low dosage who was misdiagnosed recovered a lot in 6 months.

A guy who was misdiagnosed recovered 80% in 8 months.

Unless these people are lying, i think recovery is possible for misdiagnosed people too. I too was misdiagnosed.

I am not sure about @paranoid android and @InvegaInferno who both recoverd. Dont know if they were misdiagnosed.

I wasent misdagosed but i was refused all meds at all for 3 months despite beng psychotic

 

[anonymoususer777]

Are people who have not recovered or in the beginning of revovery acheiving any erection at all? Even for 5 minutes? I would really like to know.

 

[Deleted member 592205]

Are people who have not recovered or in the beginning of revovery acheiving any erection at all? Even for 5 minutes? I would really like to know.

I can have erection only if I masturbate and i’am in the bring of orgasm, sometimes not even by doing that. Yes of curse if I don’t make any masturbation for some days i maybe will have some sort of erection, but is nothing compared to before.

Before I could have a self erection out of nowhere just because something triggered me so i had to masturbate and since that I won’t stop having the erection and my sexual drive was not going away until i masturbate.

In the past before these injections even if i was playing videogames and just chilling, i got spontaneous erections and this was my brain that was telling me “it’s time to masturbate”

Sex in general was a big part of my life, i basically was almost everytime horny and i could have erection out of nowhere without a single issue, now i’am basicalli castrated.

I cannot have spontaneous erection, somedays i don’t even feel the need to masturbate and I don’t have any kind of drive, instead, before all this shit happened I should masturbate at least 4-6 times everyday because i was really into sex and if i was with the right girl i could have sex with her 4-6 times in one day, but I’m not talking about 5 minutes sex session, at least 30min - 1h of sex.

I don’t think this part of me will come back honestly

 

[anonymoususer777]

I can have erection only if I masturbate and i’am in the bring of orgasm, sometimes not even by doing that. Yes of curse if I don’t make any masturbation for some days i maybe will have some sort of erection, but is nothing compared to before.

Before I could have a self erection out of nowhere just because something triggered me so i had to masturbate and since that I won’t stop having the erection and my sexual drive was not going away until i masturbate.

In the past before these injections even if i was playing videogames and just chilling, i got spontaneous erections and this was my brain that was telling me “it’s time to masturbate”

Sex in general was a big part of my life, i basically was almost everytime horny and i could have erection out of nowhere without a single issue, now i’am basicalli castrated.

I cannot have spontaneous erection, somedays i don’t even feel the need to masturbate and I don’t have any kind of drive, instead, before all this shit happened I should masturbate at least 4-6 times everyday because i was really into sex and if i was with the right girl i could have sex with her 4-6 times in one day, but I’m not talking about 5 minutes sex session, at least 30min - 1h of sex.

I don’t think this part of me will come back honestly

How long do your erections last now?

 

[paranoid android]

If i didn’t have visitors I would’ve cried everyday, and I was already crying a lot from the confusion of the psychosis and everything. I was more of a danger to myself than to others and I didn’t refuse my meds because at first I kind of just gave in which is awful too. They didn’t tell me what meds I was on until at least 2 weeks in I think? The only pull they told me what it was when they gave it to me were sleep medications and an iron pill. They also put me on lexapro and that can also cause emotional blunting so I just finished tapering and hoping to see if it will help me feel a little normal again. The blunting effect is very strange… it’s like I don’t feel awful but I also don’t feel amazing but it’s not the worst thing ever I’m not suicidal. I still don’t know if I regret admitting myself or not because of it all

Ya i actually wanted meds but they refused to give them to me. I was on 150mg's of morphine a day and 6mg's of clonazepam and they made me go cold turkey. This is kind of funny because when i was arrested they actually gave me my meds so i was treated better by the prison system then the mental health system.

 

[Deleted member 592205]

How long do your erections last now?

Like 2 mins if I masturbate, if I don’t they are not regular erection but just partial and flaccid

 

[anonymoususer777]

Like 2 mins if I masturbate, if I don’t they are not regular erection but just partial and flaccid

Ever gone longer like 5, 10 or 15 mins?

 

[paranoid android]

I’m prescribed adhd meds and I was in a withdrawal from them during my psychosis too which gave me chills and fed into my delusions and they also didn’t give them to me in the hospital even though I told them I have adhd and take those meds. When I got out the hospital I started taking it again around a week or so and immediately felt a difference in motivation, kind of made me upset I actually did need it lol but I can cope without the meds, just makes some things easier.

I told the hospital that i had trigeminal neuralgia and really bad anxiety and they didnt care they took me off all my meds. They wouldnt even give me immodium for my morphine withdrawal. I went cold turkey off both morphine and clonazepam and i had psychosis on top of it. I dont remember any of it but i could have literally have ded in there.

The whole experience has made me rfather bitter towards humanity and especially western civilization. I really dont want to live in a society that treats its most vulnerable people like that. My goal is to move to Australia and live in the outback away from people except my friends

I had realy bad TSD from the psych ward stay but both shrooms and s ketamine helped that alot

 

[Deleted member 592205]

Ever gone longer like 5, 10 or 15 mins?

No, i’am still castrated.

 

[paranoid android]

No, i’am still castrated.

Have you had your testosterone levels checked?