Coming off Invega/Xeplion (paliperidone) injections v11

[Deleted member 592205]

Hopefully we make it out in one piece, it’s truely a horror show. I suppose resperdalConsta is like getting injected with invega as they are similar. It sucks man, hopefully we heal. The fact you have only had 2 injections and are still suffering now makes me look at my six and take in a deep breath.

Have you experienced any recovery?

Honestly, my altered state of consciusness was 10/10 in the first 9 months, then out of nowhere it decreased until 5/10. This is the only thing that improved.

But the fact is sometimes from 5/10 it raise at 7.5-8/10 for lots of hours, but the rest (all the others sympthoms are not improved a single inch).

Risperdal consta, invega,xepilon, haloperidol, they are all the same shit, They block receptors, some have longer half life, but basically They are all the same.

It’s like Adidas, Nike, Puma, they are basically all the same.

 

[Deleted member 592205]

Apparently my friend wants me to go to inpatient and be drugged full of this fucking shit. The problem is, the reason I lost it was when one of my puppies was hidden beneath a chair in my apartment. I thought I'd lost her. Only merely weeks after getting her and forming a skin tight bond with her. If this was a fucking KID, and he admitted it was a dog and not a human, really shows.

I think I'm done with this guy. I wish people were not so judgemental. Yes, I talked all the time about suicide because of my fucking ears constantly playing up. If you're a musician and you lived your entire fucking life living with perfect hearing and then this happens, how exactly do you expect the person experiencing this to behave? Do you expect them to stay the same and in control? Get fucked, people don't stay sane when shit happens like this. Especially when there lost there mother and don't give a fuck about their stepmother and their parents treat them like shit. You're an idiot if you think people behave the same as though nothing happened. Get fucked. I'm not going on antipsychotics just to garner your approval.

I'll go to the psych and I'll tell them everything. If they decide to keep me in, and pump me full of this shit and it ruins my life, and my hearing gets worse because of the cholesterol (which can cause hearing loss, and tinnitus, especially microembolisms), then I'll have all the more reason to kill myself. Pretty simples, huh?

I am not touching drugs which I know will fuck me up beyond belief. I am not touching a chemical lobotomy. I know too many people on them and they sit around and have no energy. They just fucking sit around all day, can't think, can't work, can't imagine, end up with health problems especially vascular ones (hey WINK WINK the same fucking health problems which I suspect wrecked my hearing LALALALALALALALA)...u can get fucked if u think I gonna touch this shit.

Dope me up on barbiturates, give me an endless amount of vinylbital sodium, keep that shit flowing into me through a permanent IV line that is attached to me like an insulin pump, and I'll be one happy man. And, if I decide, because of my fucked up hearing and constant ear irritation/blockedness and pain, that I've had enough, I can increase the concentration of the barbiturate, take a couple of Dilaudids and slip my head into a plastic bag.

Yeah, before these injections i was training in the gym 6 days every week, i was always around girls, friends, doing things, or maybe even just chill at home playing videogames smoking weed, but basically i was willed and i was doing whatever i wanted to do.

After these injections i just sit at home complaining, sometimes i just go at the restourant near my home but basically i just sit there looking at the nothingness, look in the void and the only thing i can think about is how these injections left me.

Don’t have basically words to engage a talk and i feel very out of place when i’am sourrounded by normal people who don’t get injected.

It’s not not normal that a 29yo guy who was hitting gym 6/7 now is just sitting the whole time in silence staring at the void.

 

[Flynnal]

Yeah, before these injections i was training in the gym 6 days every week, i was always around girls, friends, doing things, or maybe even just chill at home playing videogames smoking weed, but basically i was willed and i was doing whatever i wanted to do.

After these injections i just sit at home complaining, sometimes i just go at the restourant near my home but basically i just sit there looking at the nothingness, look in the void and the only thing i can think about is how these injections left me.

Don’t have basically words to engage a talk and i feel very out of place when i’am sourrounded by normal people who don’t get injected.

It’s not not normal that a 29yo guy who was hitting gym 6/7 now is just sitting the whole time in silence staring at the void.

Sitting at home complaining...well, that just about sums up what I do now...I sympathise for you. It must be a nightmare living like this. Who forced you to take the injections? What circumstances led to all this if you don't mind me asking?

 

[IOSIP]

Once the CTO was revoked, I still like an idiot got 2 more injections. In Australia, they use words to make you question. It’s fucked. It was revoked but they acted like they could put it back on me if I stopped the injections. I was confused and they took advantage of it. They knew I didn’t want those injections and the side effects they gave me. Nobody gave solution- they told me I have to be more mindful!!!!!

I'm in Australia to. I'm so thankful and lucky that in my month long psychosis I never got myself in any legal trouble. I did some crazy dumb shit my injections were fucking not mandatory having said that I bet they would have kept me locked in the psych ward for longer had I not had them.

Im so sorry this happened to you and I hear where your coming from.

 

[lukeflowz]

I'm in Australia to. I'm so thankful and lucky that in my month long psychosis I never got myself in any legal trouble. I did some crazy dumb shit my injections were fucking not mandatory having said that I bet they would have kept me locked in the psych ward for longer had I not had them.

Im so sorry this happened to you and I hear where you’re coming from.

Yeah, I didn’t get in legal trouble but I was a risk to myself and the public in their view. I was seriously in a psychosis, but it was drug induced. I’m embarrassed about the crazy stuff I believed in, but hey that’s what happens if you play around with coke.

 

[Deleted member 592205]

Sitting at home complaining...well, that just about sums up what I do now...I sympathise for you. It must be a nightmare living like this. Who forced you to take the injections? What circumstances led to all this if you don't mind me asking?

I got panic attack because I was watching genocide in Gaza for 9 months, i reached hospital because I tought I had some kind of neurological issue, they told me that if i wanted i could go into psych ward, not because i was menta ill, but because they can help me with panic attacks.

I go there on my own, with my car, since i got there my panic attacks were healed, i was alrright and fine, but i wanted to stay at least 7-10 days to see what happened.

After 10 days i told them that since i’am healed i wanted to go back home, they denied this to me and denied my basic rights. They forced me against my will to stay there for no reason.

After almost a month inside the psych ward I asked them again if I can go home since i have no more reason to stay there and they just told me “if you want go home you have to take this injection” and I simply trusted them.

I discovered they gave me antipsychotic injection when it was too late, when i started to experience the direct effects i did some research because i was wondering wtf is happening to me, then i realized what they did to me.

Next week i reach 15 months after only 2 risperdal consta injections, I’m not recovered or improved at all. There was no reason to do this to me.

 

[Deleted member 592205]

I got panic attack because I was watching genocide in Gaza for 9 months, i reached hospital because I tought I had some kind of neurological issue, they told me that if i wanted i could go into psych ward, not because i was menta ill, but because they can help me with panic attacks.

I go there on my own, with my car, since i got there my panic attacks were healed, i was alrright and fine, but i wanted to stay at least 7-10 days to see what happened.

After 10 days i told them that since i’am healed i wanted to go back home, they denied this to me and denied my basic rights. They forced me against my will to stay there for no reason.

After almost a month inside the psych ward I asked them again if I can go home since i have no more reason to stay there and they just told me “if you want go home you have to take this injection” and I simply trusted them.

I discovered they gave me antipsychotic injection when it was too late, when i started to experience the direct effects i did some research because i was wondering wtf is happening to me, then i realized what they did to me.

Next week i reach 15 months after only 2 risperdal consta injections, I’m not recovered or improved at all. There was no reason to do this to me.

I had a normal life, gym, girls, football, videogames, weed, music, doing a lot of things with friends.

Now i’am in agony, since i wake up (6AM) because i can’t keep sleep, to when I go to sleep (12PM). Agony, loniless, altered state of consciusness, blunted and distorted perception of time and space, ambience, not able to sleep during day, just sitting here under this torture.

At this point i assume they did permanent damage to my brain and my life is over.

 

[Matthew01]

I miss listening to music

 

[Invegatorture]

I’m off injections now. My doc agreed to let me do CBT instead. It’s a nice feeling knowing my recovery process has started. 24 days so far. Can’t wait to feel normal again and live life. Hoping to see some improvements in 3 months considering it’s abilify.

I also can feel caffeine again, seems to be straight after the injections it was blocked fully.

 

[rawbanana]

I just wonder if my brain will ever truly heal

 

[Deleted member 592205]

I just wonder if my brain will ever truly heal

Idk mine is not healed after almost 15 months..

 

[Deleted member 592205]

I think that we can recovery some certain degree, like very little improvement over the years, but we cannot go back on how thing were before.

I don’t think people have basically zero improvements for 15 months then out of nowhere in 3 months they make a miracolous unexplainable recover.

Our brain is not a lizard tail, since it get damaged to a certain degree (ap’s injections probabily are like being shot in the head almost) there is no chance to get back to how thing were before.

Yes, neuroplasticity let us have certain improvements (improvements ≠ recovery) but that’s all, forget about go back on your old life. Full recovery after years is a fairytails, people just get used to their new condition and after a while their brain process that condition as “normal” so They feel like They recovered.

 

[therendezvous]

The placebo optimizm with hope for the better fades away very quickly.

I know for sure this is a lobotomy of the 21st century. Even people who get heavy brain injuries recover faster if their spine is not injured. I have read plenty of stories from people on reddit and other platforms complaining 8 years later with the same symptoms after only 2 injections.

We are the first generation to go through new type of torture and suffering, i feel sorry for every single one of you, doesn’t matter to me if you are a good person or bad. You are not bad souls, you are souls with a lot of bad things that have happened to you. You all were innocent children some time, with naive feelings, hopes and expectations.

What really annoys me is people who claim they went through the same scenario as us and say they have recovered fully. This just cannot be true, there are so many medical studies stating that this palminate ingredient permanently changes your brain structure, reduces its volume and makes you lifeless. The brain is the key to your whole body, without a proper brain, your body cannot function properly.

There is nothing we can do about this right now, i know how hard it is to keep your spirit together after this poison. This injection besides torturing you, turns you in the worst version of yourself, no matter how hard you try not to let that happen.

It is easy to come here from time to time and keep stating that it gets better without being injected with this shit. Just remember no doctor will help you with this because no doctor has ever been injected with this.

It is a big world wide multibillion money machine which lives by destroying peoples lives and gaining profit from it. You do not know the people behind the screen who post online, all you can know is that the people who complain are the ones who really got destroyed and injected with this poison.

Sometimes you are too good to be alive, its a way of getting rid of your talent and uniqueness.

You just cannot imagine how evil and jealous some people can be when it comes to seeing you doing good in every aspect of your life.

 

[Deleted member 592205]

The placebo optimizm with hope for the better fades away very quickly.

I know for sure this is a lobotomy of the 21st century. Even people who get heavy brain injuries recover faster if their spine is not injured. I have read plenty of stories from people on reddit and other platforms complaining 8 years later with the same symptoms after only 2 injections.

We are the first generation to go through new type of torture and suffering, i feel sorry for every single one of you, doesn’t matter to me if you are a good person or bad. You are not bad souls, you are souls with a lot of bad things that have happened to you. You all were innocent children some time, with naive feelings, hopes and expectations.

What really annoys me is people who claim they went through the same scenario as us and say they have recovered fully. This just cannot be true, there are so many medical studies stating that this palminate ingredient permanently changes your brain structure, reduces its volume and makes you lifeless. The brain is the key to your whole body, without a proper brain, your body cannot function properly.

There is nothing we can do about this right now, i know how hard it is to keep your spirit together after this poison. This injection besides torturing you, turns you in the worst version of yourself, no matter how hard you try not to let that happen.

It is easy to come here from time to time and keep stating that it gets better without being injected with this shit. Just remember no doctor will help you with this because no doctor has ever been injected with this.

It is a big world wide multibillion money machine which lives by destroying peoples lives and gaining profit from it. You do not know the people behind the screen who post online, all you can know is that the people who complain are the ones who really got destroyed and injected with this poison.

Sometimes you are too good to be alive, its a way of getting rid of your talent and uniqueness.

You just cannot imagine how evil and jealous some people can be when it comes to seeing you doing good in every aspect of your life.

So.. It’s really the end for us? It’s over like that?

 

[Invegatorture]

Once the CTO was revoked, I still like an idiot got 2 more injections. In Australia, they use words to make you question. It’s fucked. It was revoked but they acted like they could put it back on me if I stopped the injections. I was confused and they took advantage of it. They knew I didn’t want those injections and the side effects they gave me. Nobody gave solution- they told me I have to be more mindful!!!!!

I got told to be more mindful. Fucking bullshit. That doesn’t do anything for akathisia. I think they think it’s all in our head.

 

[rawbanana]

The placebo optimizm with hope for the better fades away very quickly.

I know for sure this is a lobotomy of the 21st century. Even people who get heavy brain injuries recover faster if their spine is not injured. I have read plenty of stories from people on reddit and other platforms complaining 8 years later with the same symptoms after only 2 injections.

We are the first generation to go through new type of torture and suffering, i feel sorry for every single one of you, doesn’t matter to me if you are a good person or bad. You are not bad souls, you are souls with a lot of bad things that have happened to you. You all were innocent children some time, with naive feelings, hopes and expectations.

What really annoys me is people who claim they went through the same scenario as us and say they have recovered fully. This just cannot be true, there are so many medical studies stating that this palminate ingredient permanently changes your brain structure, reduces its volume and makes you lifeless. The brain is the key to your whole body, without a proper brain, your body cannot function properly.

There is nothing we can do about this right now, i know how hard it is to keep your spirit together after this poison. This injection besides torturing you, turns you in the worst version of yourself, no matter how hard you try not to let that happen.

It is easy to come here from time to time and keep stating that it gets better without being injected with this shit. Just remember no doctor will help you with this because no doctor has ever been injected with this.

It is a big world wide multibillion money machine which lives by destroying peoples lives and gaining profit from it. You do not know the people behind the screen who post online, all you can know is that the people who complain are the ones who really got destroyed and injected with this poison.

Sometimes you are too good to be alive, its a way of getting rid of your talent and uniqueness.

You just cannot imagine how evil and jealous some people can be when it comes to seeing you doing good in every aspect of your life.

Can you link to me studies about the palmitate causing brain shrinkage?

 

[therendezvous]

Can you link to me studies about the palmitate causing brain shrinkage?

Bro just google it, palmitate brain damage, antipsychotics brain damage, LAI brain damage and etc.

You will find many studies and different recourses.

 

[therendezvous]

So.. It’s really the end for us? It’s over like that?

I am not God to state that, but from what i see and read throughout the last 11 months on these long acting injections, i only got bad news.. Have not been able to find answers, ive visited many doctors, and basically my experience with almost all of them was the same that you and many here had, blaming substances and psychological illnesses.

Only one doctor gave a legit reaction stating he is surprised that i can still talk after the amount of doses i received in such a short amount of time. He said he has no help to offer me even if he really wanted to because there isnt any. The only thing he could recommend was to fast for a prolonged amount of time and see how the body and brain reacts to that.

 

[therendezvous]

Palmitate can cause brain damage through several mechanisms, particularly by triggering inflammation and oxidative stress in brain cells. In animal studies, palmitic acid, a type of palmitate, has been shown to damage neural progenitor cells, reduce their proliferation, and disrupt neurogenesis. The brain damage is linked to increased inflammation in microglia and astrocytes, the brain's immune and support cells, respectively, which can be worsened by high levels of this fatty acid, especially in the context of obesity.

Mechanisms of brain damage

• Inflammation:
  Palmitate can activate inflammatory pathways in brain cells like microglia and astrocytes, leading to the release of inflammatory factors that are toxic to neurons.
  
  
• Oxidative stress:
  Studies have shown that high levels of palmitic acid can induce oxidative stress in brain cells, leading to cell damage and death.
  
  
• Neurogenesis disruption:
  Palmitate has been shown to impair the creation of new neurons, particularly in the hippocampus, a brain region crucial for memory.
  
  
• Lipotoxicity:
  The accumulation of excess fatty acids can disrupt normal cellular functions, leading to cell death and tissue damage.
  
  
• TNF-α signaling:
  Palmitate can induce memory deficits by activating tumor necrosis factor-alpha (TNF-α), an inflammatory cytokine.
  

Context of the damage

• Obesity:
  High levels of circulating palmitate, often found in individuals with obesity, are linked to an increased risk of cognitive decline.
  
  
• Diet:
  Consuming a diet high in saturated fats, like palmitic acid, can lead to these damaging effects.
  
  
• Drug-induced:
  Some medications containing palmitate, like paliperidone palmitate, have been associated with serious side effects such as movement disorders and neuroleptic malignant syndrome, though they are used to treat conditions like schizophrenia.
  

Important note

• It is important to distinguish between palmitate (palmitic acid), a type of fatty acid, and other palmitate compounds like retinol palmitate, which is a form of vitamin A that has been shown to have neuroprotective effects.
• Research on the effects of palmitate on the brain is ongoing. For specific health concerns or information on medications, consult a medical professional.

 

[Deleted member 592205]

I am not God to state that, but from what i see and read throughout the last 11 months on these long acting injections, i only got bad news.. Have not been able to find answers, ive visited many doctors, and basically my experience with almost all of them was the same that you and many here had, blaming substances and psychological illnesses.

Only one doctor gave a legit reaction stating he is surprised that i can still talk after the amount of doses i received in such a short amount of time. He said he has no help to offer me even if he really wanted to because there isnt any. The only thing he could recommend was to fast for a prolonged amount of time and see how the body and brain reacts to that.

My family doctor also belived me, but he told me he don’t know what to do to help me..

For you is 11 months, for me is 15 months, idk.. I will wait until 24 months, if I don’t recover i Will know that the damage is permanent, idk..

When i left the psych ward, i came home
To find out that my cat was missing and i was in the peak of the risperidone effects, i only tought about suicide for some months…

I find my cat after 4 months, if I suicided myself during these 4 months, i never get to the point where i find my cat, after 4 months, so i think about that everyday, like if I suicide i won’t see that day when i’am healed, but my limit is 24 months..

After 24 months of sympthoms i don’t think there is more logical reason to think these sympthoms are temporary rather than permanent, then i will have to kill myself, so maybe i will live the last 9 months of my life starting to the next week, when i reach 15 months.

Maybe i will recover, and be happy to not suicided myself before seeing that day coming, like i did for my cat, but find a cat and healing from this type of damage are two completely different things.

As i said, my ultimatum is 24 months, so i have 9 months and 1 week ahead of me.