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Mental Health Coming off Invega/Xeplion (paliperidone) injections v. 9

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IOSIP said:
I'm also bored as fuck sitting at home doing the same shit i did yesterday. Just wasting my life away. I really wish Australia had guns so I could end my life. Or at least have the option. I'm so fucking miserable and regretful it's not even funny.

I've done so much dumn shit in psychosis now im suffering the consequences of my actions that I don't even remember doing
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If your bored take up working out. I started lifting weights 2 years ago and am now in better shape at 43 then i was at 20.
 
paranoid android said:
All those drugs help me alot. Just because they dont work for you doesent mean they wont work for someone else
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Nah get off of them , your psychiatrist is a low life failure who couldn't pursue a more noble field in medicine so he picked psychiatry and lied to you that you have schizophrenia or some other mental illness which does not exist. Just get off your meds , fix ur diet and i promis u , you will feel much better than now. Psychiatry is a fake evil industry.
 
TonyTonyChopper said:
Nah get off of them , your psychiatrist is a low life failure who couldn't pursue a more noble field in medicine so he picked psychiatry and lied to you that you have schizophrenia or some other mental illness which does not exist. Just get off your meds , fix ur diet and i promis u , you will feel much better than now. Psychiatry is a fake evil industry.
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I had cotards syndrome which is very real. I think ill stay on my meds thank you
 
IOSIP said:
I can't believe when they discharged me from hospital they recommend being on invega for a year. You do not need to be on this shit for a year. I'm sorry but if you don't have schizophrenia that is some absolute dog shit medical advice.

Tony i feel for you having so many injections. I would not survive the year.

Absolute monsters that recommend this for a year.
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They tell this to everyone. They need to make money so they create patients. They do not know or dont wanna know how toxic and poisonus this shit is
 
paranoid android said:
I had cotards syndrome which is very real. I think ill stay on my meds thank you
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I freely admit I was totally ignorant of this very unusual disorder.

Would I be correct in thinking it represents a specific form of derealization?

If you feel the medication improves your quality of life, it seems logical to continue using it.

There are a few people on BL who appear to get a kick out of trying to futher upset people posting in a thread specifically meant to help those struggling with their mental health. If I'm honest, I'm quite amazed at your restraint. But simply telling people to stop taking their medication without any sort of evidence? To me that MAY be a manifestation of THEIR own mental health, but I can't see it helping anyone else.

I hope things get better for you, whatever you do.
 
4DQSAR said:
I freely admit I was totally ignorant of this very unusual disorder.

Would I be correct in thinking it represents a specific form of derealization?

If you feel the medication improves your quality of life, it seems logical to continue using it.

There are a few people on BL who appear to get a kick out of trying to futher upset people posting in a thread specifically meant to help those struggling with their mental health. If I'm honest, I'm quite amazed at your restraint. But simply telling people to stop taking their medication without any sort of evidence? To me that MAY be a manifestation of THEIR own mental health, but I can't see it helping anyone else.

I hope things get better for you, whatever you do.
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Noone knows what this disorder is its very very rare. As in about 700 people have had it since it was first diagnosed back in the 18th century. It's not really derealization i have had derealization and this was very different. I was just dead thats what it felt like. Not in a existential sense either no just dead. I thought the psych ward was purgatory or hell i forget.

Zyprexa has prevented cotards from returning and it doesent really fuck with any meds to bad. Weed, opiates, benzos, ketamine and psychs all still work fine
 
paranoid android said:
Noone knows what this disorder is its very very rare. As in about 700 people have had it since it was first diagnosed back in the 18th century. It's not really derealization i have had derealization and this was very different. I was just dead thats what it felt like. Not in a existential sense either no just dead. I thought the psych ward was purgatory or hell i forget.

Zyprexa has prevented cotards from returning and it doesent really fuck with any meds to bad. Weed, opiates, benzos, ketamine and psychs all still work fine
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I have been reading everything I can find. I note organic brain injury can trigger it and that it is related to the Capgras delusion which I also noted can be triggered by organic brain injury.

I imagine it must have taken a considerable time to obtain a correct diagnosis but it is so specific. Fascinating in it's own way, but I feel for you having to have suffered through it.

You know, if I could offer one bit of advice - in the UK we discovered that on a per-user basis, cannabis was the psychoactive MOST associated with mental illness. I've mentioned this elsewhere and people seem convinced that amphetamine, cocaine, ketamine or whatever MUST be worse, but the study was on many thousands of people. I'm not saying don't do it, only that it's more risky than most people seem to think and that if you ever feel a bit wonky, that might be the first one to cut out (to see if it's causing a problem).

But in spite of that, you're a mod helping thousands of people. That's pretty inspiring you know.
 
4DQSAR said:
I have been reading everything I can find. I note organic brain injury can trigger it and that it is related to the Capgras delusion which I also noted can be triggered by organic brain injury.

I imagine it must have taken a considerable time to obtain a correct diagnosis but it is so specific. Fascinating in it's own way, but I feel for you having to have suffered through it.

You know, if I could offer one bit of advice - in the UK we discovered that on a per-user basis, cannabis was the psychoactive MOST associated with mental illness. I've mentioned this elsewhere and people seem convinced that amphetamine, cocaine, ketamine or whatever MUST be worse, but the study was on many thousands of people. I'm not saying don't do it, only that it's more risky than most people seem to think and that if you ever feel a bit wonky, that might be the first one to cut out (to see if it's causing a problem).

But in spite of that, you're a mod helping thousands of people. That's pretty inspiring you know.
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I also had capgras now that you mention it. Goddamn i was all kinds of fucked up in that psych ward. I did not get it from drugs as i was at the time not using any. In fact when my family started to worry about me was when i stopped smoking weed and taking my opiates and benzos. I was not really doing anything i was almost catatonic at times. When i was locked up in the psych ward i was refused all meds and had trouble accessing cannabis for wile because i kept getting thrown in solitary for fighting security and what not.

If anything the point at which i started to get better was when i got shot up with invega and this cool guy from Rwanda got me stoned lol. We became pretty good friends in there actually as we both liked weed and hip hop. When i was psychotic and suffering from cotards/capgrass i had no desire to smoke weed. I guess dead people dont need drugs? Could be as simple as that.

Ive never gotten psychosis from any drug actually unless you count high dose dimenhydrinate which is to be expected. I did alot of coke when i first got out of the psych ward and never had anything like psychosis. I take shrooms now and have no problems either
 
Yeah - I was surprised that even on secure psychiatric wards, there are still patients who have weed. When I got out two people asked me if I could get them some.

It's such a specific disorder and from what I've read, it seems like it might not be an obvious case of an antipsychotic being the right class of medication. But hey, if if works for you man, that's cool.

I guess I just hear what you have been through and don't want to hear you got sick again so sorry if I seem a little overcautious.

If you are able, writing about the disorder might help both clinicians and sufferers alike to understand what it all feels like. I mean, it's so odd I wouldn't have imagined it until you mentioned it.

Stay well!
 
4DQSAR said:
Yeah - I was surprised that even on secure psychiatric wards, there are still patients who have weed. When I got out two people asked me if I could get them some.

It's such a specific disorder and from what I've read, it seems like it might not be an obvious case of an antipsychotic being the right class of medication. But hey, if if works for you man, that's cool.

I guess I just hear what you have been through and don't want to hear you got sick again so sorry if I seem a little overcautious.

If you are able, writing about the disorder might help both clinicians and sufferers alike to understand what it all feels like. I mean, it's so odd I wouldn't have imagined it until you mentioned it.

Stay well!
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Im in Canada and we had a weed store right up the street from the psych ward. So even if you where involuntary you could still get someone to run to the weed store for you. We also had cigs and takeout at the psych ward so it wasent to bad.

I also had psychosis hence the antipsychotics. If depression caused it antidepressants or better yet ket would be better choices to help it. I hate antidepressants though and would much rather take antipsychotics.

Ya there isnt a whole lot out there about cotards. However actually recalling much of it is a very different thing. It really fucked my memory i have 3 months where i dot remember shit
 
Oh yeah - EVERYONE smoked on the ward I was in. We were allowed into a litte walled garden for 5 minutes every hour so we could smoke one cigarette.

I've concluded that nicotine is simply people self-medicating to treat the side-effects most people get from taking antipsychotics. I'm a bit surprised that clinicians haven't noted this and perhaps considered suggesting that a drug development company could potentially make an absolute fortune by developing something that binds like nicotine but is orally active and works for a longer time.

Losing time is scary. I've lost the odd week here and there after suffering a series of seizures. I ended up in hospital and I tell you, it was like a scene from that film 'Jacob's Ladder'. Truly horrific and scary.
 
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