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IOSIP said:
This whole experience has made me think about death and God alot. What if there is no god? What if life just exists? What if when we die we are infinitely reborn again into different lives?

What if to exist means you are a God. What if this is all existence is never ending consciousness. But never having the answers. What if we die and its a never ending black void? We would never no we existed in the first place.

Does a stillborn baby get an afterlife? If yoh never formed a personality do you get to the same heaven as everyone else?

What if to live is to never have the answers to exist. What if In our next lives we get born in north Korea?

Life is fucked. We have no choice in our existence. To live is to be born into a society that judges you for your mistakes. 1 wrong turn and its all over for us. I.e pyschosis.

Look at all the awful things that happen in this world and tell me God is loving and kind. You can't its a scam.
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To say that this entire massive universe and life came from nothing or by random chance is impossible and near 0. We know this universe could not have come from nothing and there are many arguments for God like the Kalam cosmological argument which says that everything that begins to exist has a cause > This universe began to exist ( big bang) > The universe had a cause which is God. You don't necessarily have to call it God, idk the word God makes lots of ppl uncomfortable but lets just say 'something' brought our universe into existance. What attributes would this 'something' have? extremely extremely powerful , has a will because at one point there was no universe then it willed the universe to exist and many more attributes.

Look at our dna, it has billions of information that points to design . Look at how complex life is and theory of evolution is not a fact and its just that a theory that is even argued amongst scientists.

When you mention evil and all the horrible things and to come to a conclusion that God does not exist is absurd. We muslims believe God is infinite in love but also infinite in wisdom and justice. Everyone who died unjustly in this world will get a good ending in the afterlife provided they did not deny God and likewise everyone who denies God will get the most severe punishment for not acknowledging this 'something' that exists and not seeking the truth. We have a brain , reason and faculties to search for truth and meaning and if we come to a conclusion that God does not exist, then you have no one but yourself to blame on that fateful day.
 
BelieveinGod123 said:
Let's just say hypothetically that hell existed.
And God decided to throw your entire family into hell for eternity except you.
Would you still want to go to heaven knowing your family will be spending eternity suffering in hell?
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Well we believe that every muslim is promised paradise in the end so that question doesn't make sense to me. Will there be muslims who will go to hellfire for major sins that they commited in this life ? Yes but eventually after serving their punishment they will end up going to paradise. Unlike athiests , polythiests etc who will go to hell forever. Lets say my brother commited murder and goes to hell for 2 million years would that bother me ? yes and I would still like to go to heaven myself but knowing I will reunite with him eventually , I would be fine.
 
Muslims christians Hindus Buddhist. It's all fucking bullshit really. Fanatical crap. That defies logic. Ideas created by man.
 
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The amount of death that happens in the name of God is fucking disgusting. Just people doing awful things to each other. Muslims suicide bombings and Christianity just indiscriminately dropping bombs on Muslims. It fucken sickens me. What's happening in gaza is disgusting.

People are just fucking awful. This world is trash.
 
Maybe existence just is. Maybe human brains are just not able to fathom existence without God because it just makes life absolutely pointless to not believe in an afterlife. Perhaps the thought is to scary.

Maybe existence has always been and will forever be and we get absolutely no say in the matter.
 
IOSIP said:
The amount of death that happens in the name of God is fucking disgusting. Just people doing awful things to each other. Muslims suicide bombings and Christianity just indiscriminately dropping bombs on Muslims. It fucken sickens me. What's happening in gaza is disgusting.

People are just fucking awful. This world is trash.
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And athiesm is this peaceful movement that has not killed anyone in history? Look at ww1 and ww2 most people have died in these two wars in the name of secularism and athiesm. Hitler , Stalin and Mao killed over 100 million people and all were athiests and believed there is no meaning in life and that we are just atoms and killing , beheading someone is just rearranging atoms. I can't speak for chiristianity and other religions but Islam does not allow innocents to be killed in any way shape or form. Islam isn't a pacifist religion and it allows military intervention in the case you are attacked and anyone in their right mind would agree with that and to defend yourself when another country or religion attacks you.

IOSIP said:
Maybe existence just is. Maybe human brains are just not able to fathom existence without God because it just makes life absolutely pointless to not believe in an afterlife. Perhaps the thought is to scary.

Maybe existence has always been and will forever be and we get absolutely no say in the matter.
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You are free to believe what you want but logically it makes sense for there to be a necessary existance whom we call God and almost all religions have gotten this necessary existance wrong except for Islam. Christians literlly believe a man like you and I is God. Jews believe God gets tired and needs sleep. We have the most pure knowledge of this creator and we believe our religion is the only correct one today.
 
I don't care if your religious or atheist if you kill others you deserve to rot in hell. I'm just saying religion is insane. You don't pick where your born. And where your born dictates your religion. It's therefore a lucky dip on if your going to heaven or not based on if you picked the right religion which you had no choice on really in the first place.

I don't know what I believe in truly. I'm agnostic. Maybe God is real. But I doubt God is a Muslim. I doubt God is a Christian. I think God would be an all powerful being. That doesn't give a flying fuck about man kind by the way he lets people suffer
 
TonyTonyChopper said:
And athiesm is this peaceful movement that has not killed anyone in history? Look at ww1 and ww2 most people have died in these two wars in the name of secularism and athiesm. Hitler , Stalin and Mao killed over 100 million people and all were athiests and believed there is no meaning in life and that we are just atoms and killing , beheading someone is just rearranging atoms. I can't speak for chiristianity and other religions but Islam does not allow innocents to be killed in any way shape or form. Islam isn't a pacifist religion and it allows military intervention in the case you are attacked and anyone in their right mind would agree with that and to defend yourself when another country or religion attacks you.


You are free to believe what you want but logically it makes sense for there to be a necessary existance whom we call God and almost all religions have gotten this necessary existance wrong except for Islam. Christians literlly believe a man like you and I is God. Jews believe God gets tired and needs sleep. We have the most pure knowledge of this creator and we believe our religion is the only correct one today.
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I like you Tony but your blind faith that your God is the one true God is exactly why I hate religion in the first place. It defies logic. You cannot prove you ate right. Much like a Christian or a Jewish cannot prove they are right. No one can its all speculation by man.
 
IOSIP said:
I don't care if your religious or atheist if you kill others you deserve to rot in hell. I'm just saying religion is insane. You don't pick where your born. And where your born dictates your religion. It's therefore a lucky dip on if your going to heaven or not based on if you picked the right religion which you had no choice on really in the first place.

I don't know what I believe in truly. I'm agnostic. Maybe God is real. But I doubt God is a Muslim. I doubt God is a Christian. I think God would be an all powerful being. That doesn't give a flying fuck about man kind by the way he lets people suffer
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I agree that murderers and rapists should go to hell and thats my point. For an athiest where is the justice for their victims? As a believer in God I can say that hell does infact exists for these kind of people and God is the most just judge . Is it fair ppl like Ted Bundy and hitler can just do all the evil they did and get away with it? Nope , infact they are being tortured in their graves and know that afterlife is true and hell is real.

Also what is wrong with religion if it gives people purpose , a moral guide, a community? arent all these things good regardless if the religion is true?

Also our God isn't a muslim because by definition a muslim is someone who submits to God. We believe this God is one and indivisible, sustainer and needed by all, does not have offsprings and he was never born, and nothing at all is comparable to him. I quoted u chapter 112 in our holy book.


IOSIP said:
I like you Tony but your blind faith that your God is the one true God is exactly why I hate religion in the first place. It defies logic. You cannot prove you ate right. Much like a Christian or a Jewish cannot prove they are right. No one can its all speculation by man.
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Nah islam is different, it doesn't say blindly believe . Matter fact it criticizes people for believeing what their fore fathers believed and criticizes athiests for what they believe as well. We believe based on evidence because we believe our prophet was indeed a prophet and everything he said about God is 100%. Other religions are blind faith but we are certain of our religion.
 
Mohammed jesus. It's just like in 200 years from now there will be a religion saying Donald trump was the one true God. It's all nonsense man.
 
IOSIP said:
Mohammed jesus. It's just like in 200 years from now there will be a religion saying Donald trump was the one true God. It's all nonsense man.
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bro ur misunderstanding lol God does not mean prophet. A prophet like jesus or Muhammed recieve revelation from God and bring it to people. There can only be 1 God, anything more than 1 God and the universe would be total chaos. Also why would we worship donald trump? Gods revelation ended with prophet muhammed 1450 years ago so there can never be a prophet after that.
 
TonyTonyChopper said:
bro ur misunderstanding lol God does not mean prophet. A prophet like jesus or Muhammed recieve revelation from God and bring it to people. There can only be 1 God, anything more than 1 God and the universe would be total chaos. Also why would we worship donald trump? Gods revelation ended with prophet muhammed 1450 years ago so there can never be a prophet after that.
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prophet is just a man like us.
Just famous man who talked about salvation.
Salvation is but a lie a total lie.

Only yourself can save you from hell.
Jesus, muhammad same. They are just human.
 
wbga said:
prophet is just a man like us.
Just famous man who talked about salvation.
Salvation is but a lie a total lie.

Only yourself can save you from hell.
Jesus, muhammad same. They are just human.
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Yes we hes human and we don't worship Muhammed or Jesus or Abraham. They were humans like us and the best of creation and had direct access and communication to God. They performed miracles unlike us who can't do any miracles and God does not speak directly to us.

You can believe salvation is a lie , I'm not here to convince you . These famous people were famous for a reason and that is because they truly existed and communicated with God to warn us of the life to come and warn us from hellfire .
 
TonyTonyChopper said:
Yes we hes human and we don't worship Muhammed or Jesus or Abraham. They were humans like us and the best of creation and had direct access and communication to God. They performed miracles unlike us who can't do any miracles and God does not speak directly to us.

You can believe salvation is a lie , I'm not here to convince you . These famous people were famous for a reason and that is because they truly existed and communicated with God to warn us of the life to come and warn us from hellfire .
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God is incredibly evil and kind.

There is no hell, and no heaven.

This life is just our reality.

It is just endless hellfire if you can't save yourself.

Donuld trump is famous for a reason and that is because he truly exists and communicated with people to warn us of the life to come and warn us from hellfire.
 
@YogirisingKundalini my teacher of ethics used to say, we are almost destined to become versions of our parents sooner or later. In my opinion, there's lot of truth to that, it is very hard to escape the claws of time (behaviors and lessons passed by parents, even subconsciously) and genetics which attempt to define you. By realizing this, it becomes easier to spot these patterns and consciously change them, but it also takes resolve.

You'd be surprised how many similar behavioral patterns I spotted between you and your mother from just reading your bluelight posts and your reddit posts. You and your mother aren't that different, what is mainly making you different is you two don't have the same memories/experience and aren't looking at the situation from the same experience, and that's not a real difference between two identities. You have yet much to learn from this experience.
 
t_xeplionhell said:
@YogirisingKundalini my teacher of ethics used to say, we are almost destined to become versions of our parents sooner or later. In my opinion, there's lot of truth to that, it is very hard to escape the claws of time (behaviors and lessons passed by parents, even subconsciously) and genetics which attempt to define you. By realizing this, it becomes easier to spot these patterns and consciously change them, but it also takes resolve.

You'd be surprised how many similar behavioral patterns I spotted between you and your mother from just reading your bluelight posts and your reddit posts. You and your mother aren't that different, what is mainly making you different is you two don't have the same memories/experience and aren't looking at the situation from the same experience, and that's not a real difference between two identities. You have yet much to learn from this experience.
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You kinda right "every ego is the same ego" but first part i disagree cause i will heal the generational trauma and my kids will never develop anxiety or cptsd because i will be loving and accepting parent. All love brother ✝️💚
 
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