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Mental Health Coming off Invega Sustenna (paliperidone)

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Actually they wanted a paliperidone(invega) test to see if I metabolize fast or slow. Im on a court order. I think she forgot about it, and it seems Im a free man soon.

You can read further up the post where there is dosage illustrator for Invega Sustenna. You can also google Invega Sustenna dosage illustrator. It wanes slowly in the blood, clearing time is 4-6 months.
 
Thanks for the info on the dosage illustrator. According to that it has a long steady tail. I hope they don't test my blood! From now I'll just ignore blood tests. I doubt they'll follow up.
 
Well I've been reducing my Invega dosage slowly. I've gone from 100mg injection and am now on 50mg soon to be 25mg. The doc thinks I'm now on the oral medication of Invega which I am not taking. I am happy to announce that just this last week I have had a little bit of libido return. I am really excited about going down to 25mg. Hopefully the weight gain will stop. I've gained 27kg since being on this stupid drug (20months). I cannot wait to be medication free. I wish everyone the same happiness that I look forward to
 
While it's perfectly reasonable to pursue the right to happiness, as usual, bluelight explicitly recommends that if you're prescribed a medication by a doctor, the best thing for you to do is to take that medicine.

It's one thing to go against a doctor's orders, but telling them you're taking something which you actually aren't can lead to a whole host of issues, such as an even higher dose in the future if they find out. Your actions while not taking medication may betray that you are in some way under-medicated.

If you are uncomfortable taking a medication that's been prescribed for you, please consult your doctor. They're there for you, to serve you. But if you don't tell them what's going on, they can't treat you.

I respect anyone's right to feel better. And no doubt, some people are unfairly told to take medication which they don't need. That doesn't mean, however, that it's you.

Also, reading back a bit, I would like to re-affirm that taking hard stimulants will not lead to a faster recovery. If anything, generally, it will bring back psychotic symptoms.
 
Hello everyone, I registered to this forum to reply to this thread;

Here's a brief history of my situation: I was given 4 shots of Invega Sustenna 100mg (Xeplion in Europe) along with the starting shots from April to July. I have experienced extreme anhedonia/boredom/feeling of doom within the first days following the injection. I am happy to have found this thread as it pretty much describes everything i have been going through, life has become hell and i stay at home all day with no motivation to do anything. Sometimes i just shoot a blank stare at the wall and stay like this indefinitely, it's scary.

The reason why I was put on the shots in the first place was drug-induced psychosis coming from LSD abuse. With the agreement of my doctor, I have switched to the pill form (3mg) in the beginning of August and stopped taking the pills (once again with my doctor's consent) on the 13th of August. I am now clear of everything and hoping for a recovery. From what I have been reading, i have to prepare myself for a lengthy and painful recovery while experiencing some of the anhedonia that i've felt while on the shots.

Starting today I am taking St. John's Wort extract hoping that it will prevent the Invega from metabolising: I have read on the Janssen website (makers of Invega) and on this very thread that St. John's Wort being a CYP3A4 inducer it could prevent the remaining depot from metabolising thus reducing (or cancelling) the effect, anyways, that's what I'm hoping for but I am no doctor. I sympathise with everyone who has posted on this thread and hope that it got better for you guys, Invega is one hell of a drug, had they warned me of the effects, I would have refused it to be honest, I have the feeling that my drug-induced psychosis would have resolved on its own given the proper time.

I will let update you about my situation as time passes, i check on this thread regularly to see how others are doing and how long it takes to feel better.

Cheers!
 
seriously dudes, read through the posts and a whole bunch of you are weed smokers...have you ever thought the Cannaboids in the weed is what got you on the poison in the first place?
I was having a great life smoking groundgrown backyard bud only every day or two but something in it really messed with my brain.. It put me into a real dark place and I admit I went pretty crazy from it. The psychs put me on paliperidone and yeah it really messes with your body and personality. I really know what you mean by chemically raped by the stuff. I got fat, lost interest in everyday stuff, couldnt hold down a job. My psych reduced it a couple of months ago and now Im free of it ALTOGETHER and feeling great. I was tempted to smoke a cone and that crazy feeling came back and I know now not to touch weed cause I dont wanna go through the hell of Paliperidone again EVER. yeah it makes you feel like crap but look at the bigger picture. I would be dead now if Paliperidone hadnt calmed me down, the weed got me on a one way street to suicide, antisocial behaviour and I even hit my girlfriend when I was raving...worst day of my life, Now Im healthy, being true to myself without weed or Paliperidone changing who I am. Its hard in the long term and you think life will never be the same after being injected with Paliperidone .. i was on it nearly two years 150mg but just hang in there cause when its outta yer system , you do come back. All I can say is I know now it was the weed that got me on it in the first place and life is so much better without it in the bigger picture. Back with my girlfiend, scored a job, rebuilt ties with my family, life is pretty good for me now so wishing this gives you some hope. Paliperidone is the end result but look what got you on it in the first place and weed or other drugs will fastrack you to the psychs office..Peace to all
 
biggerpicture said:
seriously dudes, read through the posts and a whole bunch of you are weed smokers...have you ever thought the Cannaboids in the weed is what got you on the poison in the first place?
I was having a great life smoking groundgrown backyard bud only every day or two but something in it really messed with my brain.. It put me into a real dark place and I admit I went pretty crazy from it. The psychs put me on paliperidone and yeah it really messes with your body and personality. I really know what you mean by chemically raped by the stuff. I got fat, lost interest in everyday stuff, couldnt hold down a job. My psych reduced it a couple of months ago and now Im free of it ALTOGETHER and feeling great. I was tempted to smoke a cone and that crazy feeling came back and I know now not to touch weed cause I dont wanna go through the hell of Paliperidone again EVER. yeah it makes you feel like crap but look at the bigger picture. I would be dead now if Paliperidone hadnt calmed me down, the weed got me on a one way street to suicide, antisocial behaviour and I even hit my girlfriend when I was raving...worst day of my life, Now Im healthy, being true to myself without weed or Paliperidone changing who I am. Its hard in the long term and you think life will never be the same after being injected with Paliperidone .. i was on it nearly two years 150mg but just hang in there cause when its outta yer system , you do come back. All I can say is I know now it was the weed that got me on it in the first place and life is so much better without it in the bigger picture. Back with my girlfiend, scored a job, rebuilt ties with my family, life is pretty good for me now so wishing this gives you some hope. Paliperidone is the end result but look what got you on it in the first place and weed or other drugs will fastrack you to the psychs office..Peace to all
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Everyone reacts differently to every drug. I smoked and as we speak am smoking alot stronger then backyard weed. If anything the stuff keeps me sane and chills me out so yeah everyone reacts differently. Also i seriously doubt abit of Weed alone triggered off anything that needed to be treated with Paliperidone unless you already had some underlying problem. Fucked with your head is not exactly a medical term so what where you diagnosed with?

Granted i am diagnosed Bipolar type 1 and Cannabis does not do anything other then act as a sedative of sorts and it also seems to have some anti-manic and anti-depressive properties. Yet my ex who only had anxiety couldn't smoke Weed at all without it triggering a panic attack. So yeah everyone reacts differently.
 
Invegis said:
Hello everyone, I registered to this forum to reply to this thread;

Here's a brief history of my situation: I was given 4 shots of Invega Sustenna 100mg (Xeplion in Europe) along with the starting shots from April to July. I have experienced extreme anhedonia/boredom/feeling of doom within the first days following the injection. I am happy to have found this thread as it pretty much describes everything i have been going through, life has become hell and i stay at home all day with no motivation to do anything. Sometimes i just shoot a blank stare at the wall and stay like this indefinitely, it's scary.

The reason why I was put on the shots in the first place was drug-induced psychosis coming from LSD abuse. With the agreement of my doctor, I have switched to the pill form (3mg) in the beginning of August and stopped taking the pills (once again with my doctor's consent) on the 13th of August. I am now clear of everything and hoping for a recovery. From what I have been reading, i have to prepare myself for a lengthy and painful recovery while experiencing some of the anhedonia that i've felt while on the shots.

Starting today I am taking St. John's Wort extract hoping that it will prevent the Invega from metabolising: I have read on the Janssen website (makers of Invega) and on this very thread that St. John's Wort being a CYP3A4 inducer it could prevent the remaining depot from metabolising thus reducing (or cancelling) the effect, anyways, that's what I'm hoping for but I am no doctor. I sympathise with everyone who has posted on this thread and hope that it got better for you guys, Invega is one hell of a drug, had they warned me of the effects, I would have refused it to be honest, I have the feeling that my drug-induced psychosis would have resolved on its own given the proper time.

I will let update you about my situation as time passes, i check on this thread regularly to see how others are doing and how long it takes to feel better.

Cheers!
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Jesus christ dude you could potentially OD fucking with liver enzymes like that! Not to mention St.John's wort is a Serotonin reuptake inhibitor of sorts thus able to trigger mania and there's a warning for it that it can aggravate psychosis in people with preexisting conditions.

Lemme just say this sounds like A VERY BAD AND VERY DANGEROUS IDEA
 
Hello paranoid android,

I wasn't aware it was possible to OD from St John's Wort, from what I have read it is relatively safe, if anything, safer than classical anti-depressants which my doctor could put me on, I am taking a low dose of about 300mg per day. Anyways I needed to detox from Invega as it turned my life into a hell, living with both dopamine and serotonin receptors blocked makes me feel like a total zombie.

I don't have any preexisting condition, my psychosis was purely caused by drug abuse, I don't even believe i should have been prescribed with neuroleptics to begin with, had I stayed clear from LSD and weed for a week or two, i would have returned to normal by myself but that's not how the mental health system works, they didn't hesitate to give me a shot of Invega without regards for the side effects, I want to say that it's easy to turn someone into a vegetable and say that he is "cured" because no more symptoms are visible, but hitting me with a hammer to the head would have had the same beneficial effects...

Now I'm in a situation where life is very difficult, I struggle hard to get by every day and have looked into any possible solution for helping solve my problem; St John's wort seemed like the safest solution.

Just to finish and vent a bit, I wanted to say that I think antipsychotics should be used on people who really need them, like schizophrenics and people suffering from permanent psychosis, like you say, people with preexisting conditions. I personally find it unethical to shoot people with this medicine when the suffering is temporary and drug-induced. I believe the ethical decision would be to let the drugs who caused the psychosis leave the body and see if the situation normalises, only if the psychosis persists after the drugs are cleared should antipsychotics be considered. I feel like I have been victim of an injustice and simply crushed by the mental health system. I am not schizophrenic (which is why my doctor agreed that I should stop Invega in the first place) and suffer from absolutely no symptoms as long as I am not taking drugs.

Anyways, that's just my opinion on the matter, I say leave the neuroleptics for people who cannot live without.

Cheers!
 
Just take it easy man, it's more of a waiting game than anything. You should see some improvement after 6 months, then after a year, a marked improvement. Don't take other drugs if you can help it but esp. gaba drugs. There isn't too many drugs that can really help you, most will slow your recovery time substantially. Keep us updated, and let us know how things go. I would steer clear of the SJW.
 
Does anyone else here suffer from derealization- I know Jammin83 doesn't and Symbolicone09 did. I'm pretty certain i did not have this before the psychiatric medication -im not sure what i had before the invega, but i was functioning and able to take enjoyment from life. I'm pretty sure everyone in life lives with some kind of delusion big or small; stereotypes are one form of delusion. I think most of what's considered the schizo is just merely a problem of alienation and contextualization or how the psyche and mind deals with traumatic experience. That is if you start alienating yourself and build your own assumptions of the world; then soon those assumptions are going to be far off from the normal, and soon you will find yourself making decisions off tangent.

Voices and seeing things that are not there are another thing, but i never experienced those. I had more hallucinatory experiences after being injected by invega then I ever had before even when trying psychedelics. I think invega and the other psych meds I was given completely threw my brain off balance. It's nearing the finish of six months now, some things have improved; but it's hard to gauge. The disturbing depersonalization/derealization is still there although improving a little bit. I had MRI's done and structurally the brain is ok, so it must be an issue of neurotransmission and chemical imbalance. Since I didn't experience these things before the medication, then it must be the medication.

I still think antipsychotics are dangerous and should never had been used. The complexities of psychological experiences are beyond D2 receptors given the variety and the diversity of each individual's encounter. It is all too easily bunched together and then given some label, then administered some kind of drug that actually does cause the mind to go into disequilibrium. The mind is a very sensitive structure and neuroplasticity changes very quickly. Antagonist breach the connection between your neurons, and thus cut off the necessary connections that have evolved over the years to allow your mind/body to normally function and be you thus explaining the massive list of side effects and the often permanent changes to personality. It's hard to say things are reversible, given there's upregulation and downregulation. Also, transmission is a very sensitive mechanism, given transmitters might be sensitized or desensitized. Some things might bound to be different after these experiences. These so called disorders existed since the beginning of the human experience and each culture dealt with it differently. It is a known fact that in third world countries where antipsychotics are not used to have higher rates of success of recovery to a normal baseline social experience. It is known that even in developed countries, recovery rates are much higher for these issues if antipsychotics are not used at all. What is madness, what is normalcy these are all debatable by the societal standards established in the mainstream.

Let me know if you're dealing with derealization/depersonalization, and how it's like. If you managed to get out of it. Best.
 
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Ho-chi-minh - I disagree doctors are there to serve you. Their first loyalty is to their profession, keeping their job, being able to justify their actions to their peers.
Within that all they can do is give some stock replies to problems. Gaining weight? Exercise and diet. Flat? Exercise, make time to do something you enjoy. Really has this advice ever been useful to anyone?
They've never been manic, never taken psych drugs and never spent longer than 30 minutes with anyone who has. Of course I'd still like to be honest with them, but... yeah.
Here is an idea I constantly get from doctors. The 'seduction of mania' argument. If I complaint about flatness they claim I'm really just missing mania. But there is a large space in between they don't want to acknowledge.

Many doctors, about half, don't acknowledge that you can get manic episodes only.

If u can go a year without a medication it should be admitted that you don't need it.
 
I tend to think the best of people unless I have strong evidence otherwise. Sounds like you've had some pretty bad experiences with them, but your experience doesn't necessarily bear on the whole.

You'll find tons of people that started feeling better from all kinds of mental illness after exercising. Check out the Healthy Living section.

I would bet that a lot of doctors have had personal or secondary experience with mental illness. An intake (which is when they ask about your history and family) usually goes on for at least an hour. In fact I can't remember one that lasted for a shorter period of time.

You'd still like to be honest with them, but what?

Mania is basically an endogenous (created non-artificially) high that damages the brain, causes reckless behavior, and is very hard (in a mental sense) to come down from. It can be just as dangerous, or more so, than depression.

You have a right to find a doctor that best deals with your symptoms. I'm not suggesting doctor-shopping, just that you find someone you can trust, and whom listens to you with an open ear. And it goes both ways. It's very hard for them to trust you, if you don't trust them enough to let them know what's going on. They're generally very good at picking up deception.
 
khaverim7 said:
Almost 2 full years after my original post here, I can say that I've fully recovered. ~6 months after the last injection (of two) I was feeling better (physically and mentally), and after about a year I was fine. I'm actually in graduate school now, working/studying full time. Things are well. I hope things turned about well for you, Narshe81.
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Hope!

I'm 7 months out and I feel that there will be recovery if I live. I acquired a tianeptine addiction trying to make it through this, and I'm at 5 grams per day. Withdrawals are BAD.

So you say you FULLY recovered?

I just started growing breasts. My doctor says my testosterone and hormones are messed up really bad and prolactin is way up. So 7 months out, the shot is still messing with me a lot. I want to say I'm 50% recovered.

Sorry to everyone who gets put on this shot. Normally demons cause the psychotic episode, and that's the truth.

Tons of people kill themselves. Suicidal thoughts all day long are common for the first few months, say 3-4, but they do go away and things DO GET BETTER! You WILL recover and get your life back. Just keep fighting. Jesus can help you.

If u have 2 hospitalizations or more and they figure it out, you could be court ordered.

I know work is all but impossible. Hopefully there is family somewhere that will take you in for a while.

It was probably demons that caused your "episode." You don't have an incurable brain disease. Don't be fooled. Get out of town and seek God. Remember - demons are spirits of CONFUSION. God gives a Spirit of Peace. If the spirit you are dealing with (you know when you are dealing with them) causes confusion, and your thoughts are all a jumble of confusing ideas - it is a demon.
 
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invegascrewed said:
Does anyone else here suffer from derealization- I know Jammin83 doesn't and Symbolicone09 did. I'm pretty certain i did not have this before the psychiatric medication -im not sure what i had before the invega, but i was functioning and able to take enjoyment from life. I'm pretty sure everyone in life lives with some kind of delusion big or small; stereotypes are one form of delusion. I think most of what's considered the schizo is just merely a problem of alienation and contextualization or how the psyche and mind deals with traumatic experience. That is if you start alienating yourself and build your own assumptions of the world; then soon those assumptions are going to be far off from the normal, and soon you will find yourself making decisions off tangent.

Voices and seeing things that are not there are another thing, but i never experienced those. I had more hallucinatory experiences after being injected by invega then I ever had before even when trying psychedelics. I think invega and the other psych meds I was given completely threw my brain off balance. It's nearing the finish of six months now, some things have improved; but it's hard to gauge. The disturbing depersonalization/derealization is still there although improving a little bit. I had MRI's done and structurally the brain is ok, so it must be an issue of neurotransmission and chemical imbalance. Since I didn't experience these things before the medication, then it must be the medication.

I still think antipsychotics are dangerous and should never had been used. The complexities of psychological experiences are beyond D2 receptors given the variety and the diversity of each individual's encounter. It is all too easily bunched together and then given some label, then administered some kind of drug that actually does cause the mind to go into disequilibrium. The mind is a very sensitive structure and neuroplasticity changes very quickly. Antagonist breach the connection between your neurons, and thus cut off the necessary connections that have evolved over the years to allow your mind/body to normally function and be you thus explaining the massive list of side effects and the often permanent changes to personality. It's hard to say things are reversible, given there's upregulation and downregulation. Also, transmission is a very sensitive mechanism, given transmitters might be sensitized or desensitized. Some things might bound to be different after these experiences. These so called disorders existed since the beginning of the human experience and each culture dealt with it differently. It is a known fact that in third world countries where antipsychotics are not used to have higher rates of success of recovery to a normal baseline social experience. It is known that even in developed countries, recovery rates are much higher for these issues if antipsychotics are not used at all. What is madness, what is normalcy these are all debatable by the societal standards established in the mainstream.

Let me know if you're dealing with derealization/depersonalization, and how it's like. If you managed to get out of it. Best.
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Hey man, maybe I haven't suffered from DP/DR but I have had a really hard time coming off of the AP I was on. I was suicidal for months on end because I didn't know how to deal with the symptoms I was having. There aren't too many regular posters in this section, so I am only here to offer up my support. I might have had DP/DR but all I know is that I wanted to kill myself every day for a long time. Most of the posters in this thread aren't regular posters, so I am trying to help you out, even though my symptoms don't quite align with what you are experiencing. In truth, no one's will. Remember that your recovery will not be linear.

Everyone wants to know how long this will last, and everyone wants to know when they will get better. That is completely reasonable but no one will be able to answer for you. Invega has a higher affinity for D2 receptors than serotonin even though it is considered an 'atypical'. You are going to have a long road ahead of you but that's how it goes with APs. All you can do, is not use drugs and wait it out. That's the honest truth. Everything you use will set you back substantially. I am about a year in and I am at about 75%. I am getting better, but it is painfully slow. After about a year you should see a marked improvement. Eventually it will become manageable. You will recover, it just takes time. Try and be patient and not freak out. I know it can feel like that, you just have to give yourself time to heal.

Peace man, feel free to send me a PM if you need anything. I will be here for you if you need me. I know it's hard, but just keep pushing. One hour at a time, one day at a time. You will get through this and you will get better. Ok?
 
Hey Jammin thanks for your kind words. It's harder these days for me to write properly, understand context per say. Maybe it's psychological, maybe it's what the drugs left of me. Six months out, there has been improvements. Yes before last week, I too find myself every day, ever minute thinking dark thoughts. I can not claim I did not have issues before all this, but there is constant rumination that this is way worse then what I had. Neither do I think this was something that pulled me out of it. This is not the first time in my life where life seems to take a tangential direction, but in past experiences I always come out of it without the use of any drugs, and I return back to what i was doing and function normally, successfully, and be fulfilled spiritually，creatively. I used to think it was a blessing for me to feel more then other people or experience more than other people with certain things, and psychedelics they can change a person's mind set and make them more sensitive-. At this point, I do not know if if it's still invega that is messing with my system. I only received one shot (156 mg, 234, or 117, not sure what it is, don't want to find out neither). It's been six months, technically it should be out of my body or very effective little left. My assumption is things if they normalize should normalize a lot faster. If other people are not constantly seeing a distorted reality (derealization), experiencing depersonalization, then maybe what I'm experiencing might be an independent experience maybe or maybe not caused by the drug. (which i do believe to be absolutely related to it since it wasn't present before.) Confidence is another thing. I don't think I'm confident or believe that I am capable of doing the things I used to do, that goes from everything from grooming to cooking etc. even though I know for certain if I push myself I can pull through. There's a lot of negative reenforcements going on, and I know the body is much more flexible then maybe I know it to be, so the human will can change a lot, but then will-power, that's also a product of the brain... any ways my point being I'm really trying to be positive in what seems like at moments an impossible situation, and I do notice improvements. It's now kicking into the seventh month. Thinking about things spiritually rather than dopamine does help. It's hard to say what is influencing what and how the brain really works or what consciousness is per say. One thing is certain, people do make it. Good thoughts.
 
I never heard voices, I never had mania, I never had mood swings, I never used drugs, I never had any psychotic symptoms. I was basically put on this medication because I made a complaint about a police officer and the only way they could silence me was to have me committed and medicated. I most definitely am going against all doctors directions and taking myself off this invega rubbish because I do not need it. I'm sick of the side effects. I'm due to be injected with 25mg in two weeks and it's hopefully going to be a noticeable drop from the 50mg. I cannot concentrate, I cannot orgasm, I have no pleasure in doing fun things. It's time to come off this nasty drug. Does anyone know how long it'll take for me to start feeling normal again? I suspect I will be on the 25mg for the next three months where the psych doctor will expect me to take the tablet form of invega. I hope everyone is good :)
 
everyone who gets this shot loses touch with reality. I think that is what u mean by derealization and depersonalization. It makes u unable to feel the world around you. I am 7 months out and the shot is still messing with me a lot, but nothing like it was before. I would rather live like this than die. Before, I would have rather died than live like that.

It makes u unable to feel/understand the context of the situtations you are in in life, period, and unable to feel people's presence.

Dopaminergics help. Kratom is not a bad option.

I highly discourage anyone trying to make it through with no drugs. Tianeptine, kratom, prolintane, adderal etc... all will help. Drug use is sinful, but therapeutic use is not and this is as therapeutic as it gets, regardless of whether or not a doctor RXs.

Whatever you do, don't get shot up with this stuff again. When spirits of confusion (demons) start messing with you - STOP and realize it is a demon. Don't just keep talking and taking action. A demon is messing with you. Go pray and don't just say the things that are popping into your mind. You have to recognize it is a demon if u want to stay out of the psych ward. If u go back, they will call you non-compliant and u might get court-ordered. If that happens, you have to leave the state.

If u won't recognize it is a demon causing your problems, your problems very well might never end. When your thoughts become confusing, or u have racing thoughts - it is a demon. When u have impure thoughts and impure images pop into your mind, it is the demon. Talk to Jesus until it is over with. Stay away from sinful movies/tv/images - the demons will use that stuff against u.

I know that many people will not want to believe what I am saying, but it is 100% the truth. Anyone who has been through this can figure it out, looking back on it.

If anyone reading this has gotten this shot, and is less than a few months out from the shot, and is feeling suicidal all day every day - order tianeptine and prolintane. Take them together. Try not to get addicted, but by the end of this u might be. Ended up with an addiction is better than u committing suicide though. MANY people lost hope and committed suicide. Don't! In 6 months (seems like a long time, I know) you will feel like it is bearable and the akathisia and suicidal thoughts will be completely gone, your chemically induced depression will have lifted atleast 50% of the way, and from what I read u should fully recover in a year. If u are contemplating suicide all day every day because of this shot, I HAVE BEEN THERE - order tianeptine and prolintane online. Google prolintane to get a website that has both of them. Make sure it is a professional one. The first time u take those 2 together, you will be VERY relieved. For some reason tianeptine acts in a lot of ways that the shot doesn't block. Don't kill urself. Order.
 
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Hello paranoid android,

I wasn't aware it was possible to OD from St John's Wort, from what I have read it is relatively safe, if anything, safer than classical anti-depressants which my doctor could put me on, I am taking a low dose of about 300mg per day. Anyways I needed to detox from Invega as it turned my life into a hell, living with both dopamine and serotonin receptors blocked makes me feel like a total zombie.

I don't have any preexisting condition, my psychosis was purely caused by drug abuse, I don't even believe i should have been prescribed with neuroleptics to begin with, had I stayed clear from LSD and weed for a week or two, i would have returned to normal by myself but that's not how the mental health system works, they didn't hesitate to give me a shot of Invega without regards for the side effects, I want to say that it's easy to turn someone into a vegetable and say that he is "cured" because no more symptoms are visible, but hitting me with a hammer to the head would have had the same beneficial effects...

Now I'm in a situation where life is very difficult, I struggle hard to get by every day and have looked into any possible solution for helping solve my problem; St John's wort seemed like the safest solution.

Just to finish and vent a bit, I wanted to say that I think antipsychotics should be used on people who really need them, like schizophrenics and people suffering from permanent psychosis, like you say, people with preexisting conditions. I personally find it unethical to shoot people with this medicine when the suffering is temporary and drug-induced. I believe the ethical decision would be to let the drugs who caused the psychosis leave the body and see if the situation normalises, only if the psychosis persists after the drugs are cleared should antipsychotics be considered. I feel like I have been victim of an injustice and simply crushed by the mental health system. I am not schizophrenic (which is why my doctor agreed that I should stop Invega in the first place) and suffer from absolutely no symptoms as long as I am not taking drugs.

Anyways, that's just my opinion on the matter, I say leave the neuroleptics for people who cannot live without.

Cheers!
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I didn't mean that St.John's wart was lethal but rather that messing with your liver enzymes like that can raise or lower the level of whatever drugs your taking including Paliperidone in your system. It could very well increase the clearance time for Paliperidone instead of making it metabolize quicker. Also St.Johns wart itself carries pretty much the same risk of mania and psychosis as SSRI's do as it acts as a Serotonin reuptake inhibitor.
 
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