Mental Health Coming Off Invega Sustenna (Paliperidone) v4

[Hopton09]

If I do opiates now they actually make me not be able to sleep. Wtf is that. They used to make me nod. Invega literally makes them do the exact opposite now what the actual fuck. They should help you sleep

 

[antiinvega]

If I do opiates now they actually make me not be able to sleep. Wtf is that. They used to make me nod. Invega literally makes them do the exact opposite now what the actual fuck. They should help you sleep

Is there anything that helps you besides meth

 

[Hopton09]

Is there anything that helps you besides meth

Drug wise? No. Meth by itself or meth combined with MDMA which where I’m from the meth almost always has some in it. I’d reckon MDMA by itself would too. No other drug feels good. I get drunk but it feels like shit. Opiates I get “high” but it feels horrible. Kratom does literally the same thing an ibuprofen does. Weed I have not tried. Actually I did take 1 hit but I was already on meth. It just made the meth high stronger. But larger doses of meth make me feel completely normal again. It is so nice being able to forget about invega for a day, almost 2 days. It makes me feel exactly as if invega was never a factor. I’m not trying to recommend it for anyone but it is the only thing that makes me feel better for awhile. Sometimes ambien does too but I wears off pretty quickly now because of invega. It used to last hours now it’s like a 30 minute high and not as strong as it used to be. But anyways that’s how drugs affect me now.

 

[darvocet21]

guys i was forced to take the shot after a trip to the hospital, my mom forced me to take another one, so ive had to so far. my last injection was about 13 days ago. im moving regions so i can get away from the mental health act under which they force me to take medications, so i won't have to take anymore, i really wish i didnt let my mom force me into getting the second one even when i knew i could move and escape the court order, i regret it as it will be harmful for my recovery progress.

anyways the symptoms im experiencing now are maximum 5-6 hours of sleep per night, if even, maybe less, i can only sleep during the daytime, i fall asleep at 4-8pm and wake up at 12pm and absolutely can not fall asleep again no matter how hard i try. i wake up every 2-3 hours of sleep, multiple times a night. i cannot take naps. i have twitches which i developed after the shot. ocd type. sexual dysfucntion, boners are not as strong and dont come as easily. erections dont get maximum blood flow, feel like penis size has shrunk. overall anhedonia, lack of pleasure, lack of euphoria. i cant feel a buzz from nicotine, i tried cigarettes and they did nothing, absolutely nothing. im guessing its gonna be the same for booze and whatever else.

i have more issues which i haven't listed but i'll get to it. my most distressing symptom is the sleep part, it affects my mood and my psyche greatly i just wanna be able to sleep properly and nap. i've heard this symptom doesn't go away for a long time. does anyone have experiences with this? have u recovered from the sleep symptoms? how long does it take? please let me know as it is very important to me.

how long will it take until i can feel cigarettes again? and booze? i dont smoke weed but im guessing thats a no go too. is the damage to the receptors permanent. does invega do any sort of permanent damage at all or is it all recoverable? i havent been able to rest easy for a month now since i got the shot, longer than a month now, i have anxiety and depression all day long and can't be happy. ive been in distress since i got the shot. my life is ruined, invega ruined my life, i think about it everyday, i cant sleep, i can be happy. all i think about is the shot. i was perfectly happy and normal before the shot, my symptoms were under control. i had no side effects from the oral mediaction. then i was hospitalized for an issue unrelated to schizophrenia and they took that opportunity to section me and keep me there for 2 weeks and told me i cant leave unless i take the injection, i told the doctor i didn't want it and he came back and said its a discharge condition now. i truly feel like they ruined my life

on another note, they are forcing me to take the shots under court order now but if i leave the province then the act that makes me have to take the injections no longer applies to me anymore so im leaving the province in a week. after i leave and escape the injection, im gonna find a lawyer and try to sue the doctors who made me take this drug even though my symptoms were under control with my previous medication and i had no relapse, and was hospitalized unrelated to schizophrenia. they had to just cause to give me this injection whatsoever. i truly feel like they ruined my life. would a lawyer be able to help me? can i sue?

im just now starting my recovery journey and am still under the effects from my last shot, so i will stick around this thread for a long long time, throughout my recovery journey, ill be active here, this is my first post and its a new thread how coincidental. anyways i would be very very happy if you guys could answer my questions, ive been under alot of stress this past month and am lost and feeling hopeless. is there a way out?

Every American who believes in socialized medicine should read this post.

 

[darvocet21]

I need your advice and I'm being serious, this might be one of my last (if not the last one) messages ever written here, or anywhere else. To those who are sensitive and those who are particularly not feeling good - please skip this post.

I was feeling ultra suicidal in the last few weeks, so I started taking pregabalin, it helped for a short while, but then everything came back. So I looked on the Internet for some SSRIs that won't affect Abilify's metabolism and I decided to ask my psychiatrist for Trintellix. Believe me or not, it helped me almost immediately; my suicidal thoughts, severe OCD, anxiety and depression were gone, but I wasn't able to talk anymore. My muscles have started to ache badly, I was having tremors exactly like in Parkinson's, I even had trouble walking, but at least I didn't want to kill myself that much. I literally could not say anything, or I'd stutter or have slurred speed to the point no one could understand me, I couldn't keep a fork in my hands or eat properly, I couldn't hold any stuff in my hands, so I had to stop taking Trintellix. After about a week my voice is coming back and I don't have tremors, but my mental problems and suicidal thoughts are back. I can't live like this, this is torture, 8 months off, it doesn't get better. I know there is no solution, so either I become speechless and have Parkinson's, or I can just live a nightmare (as if living with no voice and Parkinson's isn't a nightmare anyway).
I've had too much of this, no one knows how to help me, and so don't I. I can decide to keep taking SSRIs and go to a neurologist and start on levodopa or, idk, some metylphenidate or sth, but they wouldn't give it to me anyway. Besides, you can't take levodopa with drug-induced parkinsonism. I don't want to die, but I don't want to live in hell as well. It's so difficult to decide.

You've got to experiment to find the right course of action

 

[Bigsmoke420]

Agreed. Meth is the best feeling of any drug in this world. Way more dopamine than anything else. It still gets me high if I do like a 20 sack or more but then I have to over amp just to have the high. It sucks. I’m hoping that changes. I heard of some dude who said stimulants didn’t work at all at first but do now it just takes a higher dose than most people.

But look, open your eyes for second, 2 months ago you couldnt even get high on meth, but now you can, that's progress. But I had the same problem with weed, my tolerance would go up really fast and the high only lasted only like 20 mins, it took about 10 months for that to go back to normal. I would set a date every month and keep trying to see if Kratom high comes back. But one thing I can tell you it does get easier over time.

 

[Bigsmoke420]

It isn’t just you aren’t allowed pleasure. You aren’t even allowed to not suffer. I get literally no relief whatsoever unless I do a bunch of meth where I get 1 day of relief and that isn’t even guaranteed. 50% of the time it still doesn’t help

Do what you have to do to feel normal, if it's your only option, just dont OD.

 

[Hopton09]

Every American who believes in socialized medicine should read this post.

It’s strange to me that everyone who first posts asking about what’s going on always asks if it’s permanent damage. Literally everyone suspects that at first. It’s as if we know deep down that it is. I think the elephant in the room that we all see clearly but ignore out of desperation is that this is absolutely permanent. And I think those who “recover” are just so desperate to recover that they tell themselves they have yet they really still have all these problems caused by invega. They simply are not what they were before the shot. I myself can admit it because I realize it’s permanent damage man. It’s completely obvious. Yet I still refuse to actually accept that and I keep holding out for some miracle to happen which I damn well know isn’t coming. We are hardwired for survival and it’s not always beneficial to survival to accept the actual truth. Sometimes it’s more beneficial to believe something false. That’s why people believe in God when they know there is not God. All we have to do is look around.

 

[darvocet21]

Are you telling me the invega sustenna is not a good drug. I've never heard of it before what does it do. Why would anybody have to take it especially to be forced to which violates the Nuremberg code. Not that they're really following that code very much these days

 

[Hopton09]

Do what you have to do to feel normal, if it's your only option, just dont OD.

I’ve OD’d on it a million times. It doesn’t kill you. It’s just not a fun thing to go through. It wears you out physically, dehydrates the piss out of you but usually it’s not very dangerous. You’d have to be purposely trying to kill yourself to die from Crystal meth

 

[Bigsmoke420]

It’s strange to me that everyone who first posts asking about what’s going on always asks if it’s permanent damage. Literally everyone suspects that at first. It’s as if we know deep down that it is. I think the elephant in the room that we all see clearly but ignore out of desperation is that this is absolutely permanent. And I think those who “recover” are just so desperate to recover that they tell themselves they have yet they really still have all these problems caused by invega. They simply are not what they were before the shot. I myself can admit it because I realize it’s permanent damage man. It’s completely obvious. Yet I still refuse to actually accept that and I keep holding out for some miracle to happen which I damn well know isn’t coming. We are hardwired for survival and it’s not always beneficial to survival to accept the actual truth. Sometimes it’s more beneficial to believe something false. That’s why people believe in God when they know there is not God. All we have to do is look around.

You cant really know if its permanent damage until your a year off. Anhedonia is the source of what your all feeling, anhedonia is the cause of a chemical imbalance in the brain and your reward system not any actual damage, people have ptsd, anti depressant anhedonia, trauma induced anhedonia, drug induced anhedonia, they are really not the same person they were before the anhedonia. Just go look on reddit/anhedonia its everything you described. Cant get high properly, no emotions, no sex drive, no motivation. It all boils to one problem that's anhedonia. You know how I know you dont have damage, is because when you do meth you said feel normal, because you have a chemical in balance in your brain and the meth raises your dopamine and levels you out

 

[Bigsmoke420]

I’ve OD’d on it a million times. It doesn’t kill you. It’s just not a fun thing to go through. It wears you out physically, dehydrates the piss out of you but usually it’s not very dangerous. You’d have to be purposely trying to kill yourself to die from Crystal meth

Hope that recent post can give you some hope and not give up

 

[Hopton09]

Hope that recent post can give you some hope and not give up

It does. Thanks buddy

 

[Hopton09]

You cant really know if its permanent damage until your a year off. Anhedonia is the source of what your all feeling, anhedonia is the cause of a chemical imbalance in the brain and your reward system not any actual damage, people have ptsd, anti depressant anhedonia, trauma induced anhedonia, drug induced anhedonia, they are really not the same person they were before the anhedonia. Just go look on reddit/anhedonia its everything you described. Cant get high properly, no emotions, no sex drive, no motivation. It all boils to one problem that's anhedonia. You know how I know you dont have damage, is because when you do meth you said feel normal, because you have a chemical in balance in your brain and the meth raises your dopamine and levels you out

It’s funny that you mention that about meth making me normal. Because I had that thought too awhile ago, I thought wait a minute if all my receptors are damaged how would meth make me feel normal. It doesn’t always and it takes a high dose but it does happen. And I hope you are right and it’s a hopeful thought to have right now

 

[Hopton09]

Hope that recent post can give you some hope and not give up

I actually felt the normal high from it and even had the laser focus from it a few times. It almost felt the way it did before Invega

 

[Bigsmoke420]

I actually felt the normal high from it and even had the laser focus from it a few times. It almost felt the way it did before Invega

You know most people who have had brain damage from antipyscotics are most first generation, that cause a lost of grey matter in the brain, and atypical cause brain shrinkage, but the studies only found that happens when people take them for a prolonged use of time. Brain damage from antipyscotics people show symptoms of Parkinson's, like in voluntary movements shit like that. If you dont have those problems you should be fine.

 

[n3ophy7e]

You haven’t had to go through this. It’s impossible for you to have any understanding of what it feels like. If you did go through it and you had one thing which gave temporary relief, you would take it. I guarantee it.

I meant more like, I understand what it's like to be desperate for relief from something. No I will never understand what invega feels like.

 

[Bigsmoke420]

I meant more like, I understand what it's like to be desperate for relief from something. No I will never understand what invega feels like.

Imagine going to McDonald's and ordering a mcrib and receive no napkins, Its like wut.

 

[t_xeplionhell]

It’s strange to me that everyone who first posts asking about what’s going on always asks if it’s permanent damage. Literally everyone suspects that at first. It’s as if we know deep down that it is. I think the elephant in the room that we all see clearly but ignore out of desperation is that this is absolutely permanent. And I think those who “recover” are just so desperate to recover that they tell themselves they have yet they really still have all these problems caused by invega. They simply are not what they were before the shot. I myself can admit it because I realize it’s permanent damage man. It’s completely obvious. Yet I still refuse to actually accept that and I keep holding out for some miracle to happen which I damn well know isn’t coming. We are hardwired for survival and it’s not always beneficial to survival to accept the actual truth. Sometimes it’s more beneficial to believe something false. That’s why people believe in God when they know there is not God. All we have to do is look around.

I never at beginning though its parnament damage. Even now I dont think it is parnament.

 

[t_xeplionhell]

You cant really know if its permanent damage until your a year off. Anhedonia is the source of what your all feeling, anhedonia is the cause of a chemical imbalance in the brain and your reward system not any actual damage, people have ptsd, anti depressant anhedonia, trauma induced anhedonia, drug induced anhedonia, they are really not the same person they were before the anhedonia. Just go look on reddit/anhedonia its everything you described. Cant get high properly, no emotions, no sex drive, no motivation. It all boils to one problem that's anhedonia. You know how I know you dont have damage, is because when you do meth you said feel normal, because you have a chemical in balance in your brain and the meth raises your dopamine and levels you out.

You dont even know when u are year off. There was a guy who recovered after 3 years.