Mental Health Coming off Invega Sustenna (Paliperidone) v3

[John78]

I read somewhere that nicotine breaks down the enzymes of the injection. Is this true?

well i just looked it up
"Patients who smoke metabolize antipsychotics faster than nonsmoking patients."
that's a piece of what i could find. so if you have a fast metabolism and smoke, your chances of earlier recovery are greater

 

[John78]

well i guess you can ask your physician for better estimates towards your recovery since it varies between people because of things like your age, health, weight (idk about the weight gained), metabolism, and i guess other stuff that wasn't named.

 

[Paula10]

another recovery in the books. gives me hope. alot of people think it's permanent cause they can't fathom a long road to recovery. sad that they give up hope so early. how far are you off? any improvements?

I’m 5 months off. Ciggs don’t taste like death. I can get drunk. I have my sex drive back. That’s it. I still feel hopeless

 

[John78]

I’m 5 months off. Ciggs don’t taste like death. I can get drunk. I have my sex drive back. That’s it. I still feel hopeless

well it might be safe to say that your receptors are no longer being antagonized. now you're probably just sucked dry of seratonin and/or dopamine or something and in need of an agonist or a booster or just give your brain time to heal now that your receptors are probably freshly unantagonized

 

[John78]

I’m 5 months off. Ciggs don’t taste like death. I can get drunk. I have my sex drive back. That’s it. I still feel hopeless

i know that hopelessness is an all consuming thing with no sight of a way out but the light should be at the end of the tunnel for you.

 

[Paula10]

well it might be safe to say that your receptors are no longer being antagonized. now you're probably just sucked dry of seratonin and/or dopamine or something and in need of an agonist or a booster or just give your brain time to heal now that your receptors are probably freshly unantagonized

I take 3000 mg of St. John’s wort everyday for the next 3 months and after that I’m done with all vitamins. Dude this sucks ass big time.

 

[John78]

I take 3000 mg of St. John’s wort everyday for the next 3 months and after that I’m done with all vitamins. Dude this sucks ass big time.

assuming it doesn't work? or what? and yeah i bet. i don't understand this shot. it offers alot of hope on paper but that's just the selling point. it impairs cognition. makes you depressed. can give you anxiety. makes you gain weight. gives you anhedonia. gives you libido issues. gives you erectile and sensitivity issues. inability to ejaculate. girls lose their period. like the list of side effects is just awful and goes on. some would rather experience psycosis rather than lose their pleasures and pleasure receptors.

 

[Paula10]

assuming it doesn't work? or what? and yeah i bet. i don't understand this shot. it offers alot of hope on paper but that's just the selling point. it impairs cognition. makes you depressed. can give you anxiety. makes you gain weight. gives you anhedonia. gives you libido issues. gives you erectile and sensitivity issues. inability to ejaculate. girls lose their period. like the list of side effects is just awful and goes on. some would rather experience psycosis rather than lose their pleasures and pleasure receptors.

Yes I rather experience psychosis anyway man. I don’t know if St. John’s wort works or not but hey it can’t hurt. I’m done with it after this bottle. I’m tired of this shit. Nothing feels good nothing nothing nothing. 24/7 is shit shit shit. Sorry I’m negative please forgive me. There is hope I’m sure of it but I’m suffering. Someone post words of encouragement please. Hell I do sometimes.

 

[awesome31311]

well i just looked it up
"Patients who smoke metabolize antipsychotics faster than nonsmoking patients."
that's a piece of what i could find. so if you have a fast metabolism and smoke, your chances of earlier recovery are greater

Interestingly, it's common for schizophrenic patients to smoke

 

[Cabra]

Have any of you tried Mucuna Puriens?, it contains L dopa precursor to dopamine, proven effective boosting dopamine in parkinsons. Worth a shot.

 

[xeplioned]

Hello everybody, i had 20 shots of "xeplion 75mg" same as invega sustenna, i quit like month ago, for the "withdrawal" im gonna take risperdone 1mg/day, going to take that for month or two then quit.. bless everybody my english is bad so maybe dont reply this

 

[Jabberwocky]

Welcome to Bluelight @xeplioned!

You are always welcome here.

Hopefully everything works out.

Don't give up.

 

[Antipsychiatry]

Yeah i smoke like every half hour. I went from weighing 160 to 240. I lost 27 pounds and now weigh 224 so ive lost quite a bit. My social worker is coming over today to explain a few things to me. I have to talk to my pdoc on Friday and I'm gonna ask him to transfer me to a new doctor.

 

[NoMoreZombi]

Guys hang in there it will get better. Try taking st john's wort to speed up the process.

 

[Finessinit]

I feel we’ve got to stay positive because people have recovered. Being negative will just make your recovery time a whole lot more worse. Be patient and hopeful

 

[Paula10]

Guys hang in there it will get better. Try taking st john's wort to speed up the process.

Okay I’m taking St. John’s wort everyday. I moved from 900 a day to 3000 a day. I really can’t tell a difference. I hope it speeds recovery up. God help us

 

[NoMoreZombi]

Okay I’m taking St. John’s wort everyday. I moved from 900 a day to 3000 a day. I really can’t tell a difference. I hope it speeds recovery up. God help us

It will help for sure as it has helped me recover. You can look it up. St john's wort actually metabolises paliperidone so thats why its not advised to take them together. Obviously since you are trying to get rid of it then it helps to take it.

 

[Paula10]

It will help for sure as it has helped me recover. You can look it up. St john's wort actually metabolises paliperidone so thats why its not advised to take them together. Obviously since you are trying to get rid of it then it helps to take it.

Well when I’m done with this bottle I’ll be 8 months off. I said I would be done with it, but if I’m not feeling any better by 8 months I might purchase another bottle I’m not for sure. Damn you’re lucky you recovered in 6 months I swear I wish I was you right now. I’m so sad and just can’t handle this suffering. Do you really enjoy life again? I miss me so much it’s killing me everyday being this way. I’m tired of waking up I just want to die.

 

[John78]

Yes I rather experience psychosis anyway man. I don’t know if St. John’s wort works or not but hey it can’t hurt. I’m done with it after this bottle. I’m tired of this shit. Nothing feels good nothing nothing nothing. 24/7 is shit shit shit. Sorry I’m negative please forgive me. There is hope I’m sure of it but I’m suffering. Someone post words of encouragement please. Hell I do sometimes.

yeah i get it. i don't really have any side effects so i can't really say much other than sexual issues but those went away except for my discharge. very embarrasing when a girl likes cum and you got nothin' comin' out, haha. sorry for the tmi. and i can't get high or drunk. it's my karma for being greedy with liqour, getting too high for comfort alot of the times, and being a fuckin' horndog; that and i'm on commitment. i'm not even supposed to be smoking or drinking.
but you'll get through it. just keep your eyes on the future. like i said to someone else, one day being on this page looking for hope will no longer be a thought in your head. if you're not close, you're atleast almost or halfway there. and that's better than just getting off or still being on the jab. you'll make it. i know it's a long road, but your appreciation for being a funtionable human being will be even greater; and when your day comes, it'll be one of the greatest things to experience. you'll never take it for granted and you'll have more control over your symptoms if you even still have any and you'll be more careful to avoid going back on it and your chances of experiencing it again will be even lower.

 

[John78]

Interestingly, it's common for schizophrenic patients to smoke

yeah i've watched videos and livestreams of schizophrenics and alot of them smoked. but i'm hoping "metablozing" the medication means breaking it down and getting it out of your system other than it meaning helping the medication to it's job cause it said after that 12% of patients recovered in 6 months on APs after given smoke breaks