Mental Health Coming off Invega Sustenna (Paliperidone) v3

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Thank you for sharing, this helps me consider the various perspectives of how this could appear.

Yreah, that sort of behavior is really not appropriate. I confess, I feel similarly these days, sometimes society is so backwards I wonder how we survive at all. It's not hard to come up with a better location to do such a thing in though. While expressing yourself and venting is healthy in some contexts, doing so along a street in active use is probably not the correct context. You're not going to have a very attentive audience, for one, and for two you are easily mistaken for someone having a mental break, if you are not obviously talking to anyone in particular.

Hypothetically if you were to do a similar thing, except standing at a church lectern addressing the congregation, it would seem much less out of place. I don't even think it would be that hard to find someone willing to let you speak, provided you had a written outline and it was not too off-the-wall.

So the cops ticketed you 7 times and you kept coming back for more? I'm sorry, what was your thought process there? Were you nor aware it is almost universally accepted rule that you don't fuck around with American police? You know, the people who have the power to totally fuck your life over at a drop of a hat? You ever heard the infamous definition of insanity? It's something like - doing the exact same thing over and over but hoping for a different response. I'm actually amazed that they were patient enough to let you do it 7 times. (The cat came back, the very next day... the cat came back, they thought he was a goner... but the cat came back, he just wouldn't stay awaaaaay!)

I have a sneaking suspicion that your arrest and psych hold was because the cops were getting awfully tired of telling you to stop. I imagine they were running out of options and growing frustrated. They're not going to spend all day driving you away from your corner, they have better shit they could be doing. And your choice of venue to express your views on religion... people in their cars don't generally pay attention to what people on the street are screaming.

In fact, a healthier outlet might have been a Bluelight blog or something....

Anyway, what do you think about my conclusions? I still believe that you are both deserving, and able to live a more fulfilling life, but I really do suggest you look into finding someone who can help you manage whatever sort of strange activity your brain decides to do. I believe that whatever your underlying mental illness may be (again, this is a mere suggestion, but I think maybe OCD or some sort of anxiety,, knowing and understanding it first, and treating it appropriately afterwards, it would only make you feel better.

It can take a brave person to admit they are not behaving the way they remember acting, and seek help for such a problem, but the rewards are worth it, IMO.)
 
I regained music. I love listening to it when I wake up now
that's awesome man!, i'm 20 fresh off a heavy morphine IV nasty habit and music is what motivates me everyday. Glad to hear that you can enjoy music again :)
 
you're still fresh from the shit, i'd bet 1000$ that there's still a considerable amount of that poison in your blood. Take one day at a time man, i know it's hard but you'll eventually get there :p
Thanks man, yeah your right, times the best antidote
 
I’m only posting monthly updates on this site. I am at month 5 and I can say cigarettes no longer taste like death to me. I can watch a movie and listen to music again, but it is not even close to pre invega. My brain does not feel heavy anymore or foggy. My desire for sex is coming back and I actually want to have sex. Before month 5 I hated sex, but now I think about it which is a good thing. So since I had desire for sex i wanted to try it so last week I had sex and I can say I can feel it more than I did the first 5 months. I mean it’s nothing like pre invega but I felt a change inside me. I felt like I wanted to orgasm but it never happen but it felt like I almost did. Now the first 5 months I couldn’t feel this sensation so I do believe I will recover my sex drive. I get turned on now by guys which it took 5 months before I wanted sex damn that’s along damn time. I just wish I could cum. I will try again next week. I’m actually on my period now lol. I started my period at month 3. Oh, honestly I still feel like shit everyday. Last week I had severe depression that I wanted to end my life. It’s a damn struggle even after 5 months.
I have notice small improvements nothing big. So I hope I can make it to see me recover one day. I will post monthly updates guys. I still read this thread everyday and I mean everyday all day. I will see you at month 6. Godspeed
 
I’m only posting monthly updates on this site. I am at month 5 and I can say cigarettes no longer taste like death to me. I can watch a movie and listen to music again, but it is not even close to pre invega. My brain does not feel heavy anymore or foggy. My desire for sex is coming back and I actually want to have sex. Before month 5 I hated sex, but now I think about it which is a good thing. So since I had desire for sex i wanted to try it so last week I had sex and I can say I can feel it more than I did the first 5 months. I mean it’s nothing like pre invega but I felt a change inside me. I felt like I wanted to orgasm but it never happen but it felt like I almost did. Now the first 5 months I couldn’t feel this sensation so I do believe I will recover my sex drive. I get turned on now by guys which it took 5 months before I wanted sex damn that’s along damn time. I just wish I could cum. I will try again next week. I’m actually on my period now lol. I started my period at month 3. Oh, honestly I still feel like shit everyday. Last week I had severe depression that I wanted to end my life. It’s a damn struggle even after 5 months.
I have notice small improvements nothing big. So I hope I can make it to see me recover one day. I will post monthly updates guys. I still read this thread everyday and I mean everyday all day. I will see you at month 6. Godspeed
Yeah Im on month 6 and I can say I’m a loooot better than I was before. The only thing I’d say is leftover is sex drive and laziness but even that has improved greatly! When I was on month one and two invega i wanted to kill myself. I couldnt escape the full feeling. But now It’s mostly gone
and I can enjoy things again.
 
It’s a hard road to take each and everyday. Yes I know your struggles and I know how living in hell everyday feels like. Trust me if there was a easy way out of this misery I would have taken it to end my suffering. I suffer each and everyday and there is nothing I can do but hold on and wait out this endless war. I know you wake up hoping for a real change in your emotions I do everyday. It’s hard guys I know it is. I still pray every night to God hoping he’s will end my suffering, but I haven’t had God answer me. I know I took life for granted many times before invega. I wonder if God gives us invega to show us the real meaning of life. I don’t know why he would make us suffer this much. Maybe he knows we are true warriors and wants to test our loyalty to him. I love God I really do guys, but I can’t take the suffering everyday. I’m strong but not that strong. I really feel sorry for the lives that were lost on invega. I know plenty has gave up and took their lives because of the torment. I just don’t want to be one of them. I’m scared just like you are scared. I worry just like you worry. Remember you are not alone in this war. I am by your side fighting with you. We have to survive each day. We are one guys we are in this together. I don’t know you personally but I have came to know your struggles because of invega. I appreciate you surviving this battle with me. I just hope we all make it. I feel hopeless everyday that goes by. Posters say it gets easier as the months go by but I swear to me it’s getting harder. I hope I’ll make it to post on month 6 for you. Take care and pray. This is the most horrifying nightmare anyone could be in. I’m fighting with you.
 
Hi all, 6 months from my last injection.

A couple weeks back as I was trying to fall asleep I felt some positivity. I can't say I felt emotions but I did have a sense of well-being which has been absent for a long time. I was able to laugh a couple times and thought to myself "I'm getting better". For about a week this state of mind persisted, but the struggle is still there and I've lost that "boost". I try to stay away from googling anti-psychotic stories but find myself doing so about once a week.

I wish there was more information about anti-psychotic recovery. All we really have to go by are anecdotes. I hate to be negative but there are many stories of people not recovering from anhedonia and emotional numbness (my primary concerns) months and even years after quitting the drugs. I had 2 injections but I also was hospitalized in January and took zyprexa for one month as well as lithium for two months. How can I not feel hopeless when I've read stories of people reporting that they still have anhedonia years after being on zyprexa for just 2 weeks? I feel like both the zyprexa and the invega can cause long term damage and having taken both of them just increases my chances that I will not recover. Yes, we do have lots of stories on this thread of people recovering, but how do we know our own chances of recovery? I've heard here that most people recover but is that true? How do we know 90% recover as opposed to just 50 %? This honestly really screws with my head, all I can do is wait but I don't know how long I need to wait for if recovery will even happen at all.

I still go to my psychiatrist every 6 weeks and he insists that it's been 6 months, the invega is gone and the anhedonia can no longer be from the invega. He even suggested I take anti-depressants and when I said anti-depressants can cause anhedonia he flat out denies it. I'm also seeing a psychologist to appease my family and we basically have the same discussion every week. I say I still have anhedonia and she says how do you know it's from the invega and not from the psychosis. I say I've had 3 episodes of psychosis and never experienced anhedonia except after the last one when I was given the invega injections. She then says it could be my thoughts and behaviors which is keeping the anhedonia present and I need to become more active to change my mindset. I know this is not true because pre-invega I could be lazy for months and still feel motivation and emotion. Like I had periods where I did nothing but play video games, eat junk food and watch porn for months on end while being unemployed. STILL, I always had strong emotions and could feel motivation and pleasure. It's frustrating hearing people say things like "do everything you can do" and " you need to believe you will get better" or other generic advice which I don't think applies here. Like sure, going to the gym and eating healthy can IMPROVE one's emotion and motivation...but the problem is I don't have any emotion to improve on. Motivation simply doesn't exist because I don't feel anything. How can i have a positive mindset when I feel nothing?

I can say at least, that my sexual function is back. I don't know if it's back to pre-invega because I have a heavy porn habit which has always destroyed my libido even pre-invega days. I'm hoping to go a month or so without porn and I'll be better able to assess my libido. I had my prolactin levels checked a couple months ago and it was at 50 ng/ml. I'll have another test sometime soon to see where I'm at. I can masturbate multiples times per day but the sperm is all watery and the color seems off.

I have a decent amount of savings which I was about to use to open a business until the corona shit started. I'm thinking that I will now use all that money to try and get my life back. Fuck opening a business and fuck everything else, nothing matters if I don't get my spirit and soul back. I'm just waiting to get back to the US and for an invega blood test to show 0. After that, I have no choice but to try every single treatment for anhedonia. I have no idea what to expect, there is no proven treatment for anhedonia. Just anecdotes here and there. I will start with the cheaper more practical treatments like shrooms, MDMA, CBD and maybe even weed. Things that could maybe spark some of those dead receptors back into life. I've heard on this site and others a couple stories of people having their emotions improve after taking MDMA, that is probably the first thing I will try. If nothing works I will try more expensive treatments and last resort is ECT.

It's scary to think of what will happen if nothing works. I can't imagine being alive for more than a couple years if it's gonna be a "living death". What's the point of doing anything if I get 0 pleasure or feeling from it? Why would I ever meet a woman if I can't even experience love or attraction? Why bother making money when I'll never be able to enjoy it? What the hell would I have to look forward to if I stay in this soulless abyss?
 
Hi all, 6 months from my last injection.

A couple weeks back as I was trying to fall asleep I felt some positivity. I can't say I felt emotions but I did have a sense of well-being which has been absent for a long time. I was able to laugh a couple times and thought to myself "I'm getting better". For about a week this state of mind persisted, but the struggle is still there and I've lost that "boost". I try to stay away from googling anti-psychotic stories but find myself doing so about once a week.

I wish there was more information about anti-psychotic recovery. All we really have to go by are anecdotes. I hate to be negative but there are many stories of people not recovering from anhedonia and emotional numbness (my primary concerns) months and even years after quitting the drugs. I had 2 injections but I also was hospitalized in January and took zyprexa for one month as well as lithium for two months. How can I not feel hopeless when I've read stories of people reporting that they still have anhedonia years after being on zyprexa for just 2 weeks? I feel like both the zyprexa and the invega can cause long term damage and having taken both of them just increases my chances that I will not recover. Yes, we do have lots of stories on this thread of people recovering, but how do we know our own chances of recovery? I've heard here that most people recover but is that true? How do we know 90% recover as opposed to just 50 %? This honestly really screws with my head, all I can do is wait but I don't know how long I need to wait for if recovery will even happen at all.

I still go to my psychiatrist every 6 weeks and he insists that it's been 6 months, the invega is gone and the anhedonia can no longer be from the invega. He even suggested I take anti-depressants and when I said anti-depressants can cause anhedonia he flat out denies it. I'm also seeing a psychologist to appease my family and we basically have the same discussion every week. I say I still have anhedonia and she says how do you know it's from the invega and not from the psychosis. I say I've had 3 episodes of psychosis and never experienced anhedonia except after the last one when I was given the invega injections. She then says it could be my thoughts and behaviors which is keeping the anhedonia present and I need to become more active to change my mindset. I know this is not true because pre-invega I could be lazy for months and still feel motivation and emotion. Like I had periods where I did nothing but play video games, eat junk food and watch porn for months on end while being unemployed. STILL, I always had strong emotions and could feel motivation and pleasure. It's frustrating hearing people say things like "do everything you can do" and " you need to believe you will get better" or other generic advice which I don't think applies here. Like sure, going to the gym and eating healthy can IMPROVE one's emotion and motivation...but the problem is I don't have any emotion to improve on. Motivation simply doesn't exist because I don't feel anything. How can i have a positive mindset when I feel nothing?

I can say at least, that my sexual function is back. I don't know if it's back to pre-invega because I have a heavy porn habit which has always destroyed my libido even pre-invega days. I'm hoping to go a month or so without porn and I'll be better able to assess my libido. I had my prolactin levels checked a couple months ago and it was at 50 ng/ml. I'll have another test sometime soon to see where I'm at. I can masturbate multiples times per day but the sperm is all watery and the color seems off.

I have a decent amount of savings which I was about to use to open a business until the corona shit started. I'm thinking that I will now use all that money to try and get my life back. Fuck opening a business and fuck everything else, nothing matters if I don't get my spirit and soul back. I'm just waiting to get back to the US and for an invega blood test to show 0. After that, I have no choice but to try every single treatment for anhedonia. I have no idea what to expect, there is no proven treatment for anhedonia. Just anecdotes here and there. I will start with the cheaper more practical treatments like shrooms, MDMA, CBD and maybe even weed. Things that could maybe spark some of those dead receptors back into life. I've heard on this site and others a couple stories of people having their emotions improve after taking MDMA, that is probably the first thing I will try. If nothing works I will try more expensive treatments and last resort is ECT.

It's scary to think of what will happen if nothing works. I can't imagine being alive for more than a couple years if it's gonna be a "living death". What's the point of doing anything if I get 0 pleasure or feeling from it? Why would I ever meet a woman if I can't even experience love or attraction? Why bother making money when I'll never be able to enjoy it? What the hell would I have to look forward to if I stay in this soulless abyss?
I think your psychiatrist is wrong about the Invega being gone. I've heard multiple stories now of psychiatrists being wrong about how long Invega lasts in the body. It's weird, because they should know better than most people that Invega lasts as long as it does. I think some of them are just straight up dishonest about how long it lasts. At least, that's how it seems.

I don't know how many people recover from Invega Sustenna, but based on the personal evidence I've seen, it appears that the majority of people do recover completely or nearly completely. If I were to wager a guess, I would say it's above 80%. I hope you recover.
 
Hi all,

It's been one year and 5 months since I've been off the invega shot. This forum used to help me a lot, but now I have little motivation to come here because I just dont think about invega anymore.

I consider myself fully recovered. Things change when you go through something hard like this and I'm a different person than I was before, but as far as abilities go, I feel able to achieve everything that I could prior to invega.

I was doing really well at my internship with the state and at spring quarter in school. Around February, a little over a year off, I slowly started to fall back into delusions of reference. I was able to suppress these delusions until the end of March, when I ended up being involuntarily committed. I told them that I was allergic to the invega shot. They put me on the Invega pill for 8 days, and it blasted all the delusions out of my head. I started to develop a familiar lack of enjoyment and akathisia at the end of the 8 days. However, within three weeks or so of leaving the institution and being off the pill I feel no more detrimental effects from it.

I lost my internship and missed one final. However, my grades were so high that I still passed that class. I decided to keep some invega pills on hand. I am going to try to live most of my life at 100% and try to blast my brain out with the pills if I feel delusions coming on. I would rather live life to its fullest and crash when I have to than commit to living the rest of my life on a soul sucking medication.
I have a psych who is on board with this. I guess she had no choice, as the ultimatum was that I would keep the pills in my drawer in case of emergency or I would not see her...interestingly enough, she tried to convince me to be constantly on APs by saying that the only thing that stopped me from relapsing for a year was the invega shot in my system, because it takes that long to get out. The only time we will ever get a psych to admit that. I wonder if she tells that to the people she prescribes the shot to. That being said, I'm trying some talk therapy as well and it is helping.

I'm really just hoping that the psychotic relapse was related to the AP recovery. The label "schizophrenia" is just on too wide of a spectrum for me to accept with just two episodes. I feel like madness could have many causes. And that medication gives more problems than it solves.

Anyway, I am beyond a doubt fully recovered. It is absolutely possible.

Consider muting the naysayers on this forum who want to make themselves feel better by trying to make others despair. Reading their posts would make anyone question their own happiness. Have faith.
Congratulations on your recovery!
 
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