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Mental Health Coming Off Invega Sustenna (Paliperidone) v.2
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Yeshuah
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@Tina Imagine you're hitting yourself with a green stick all the time and you get a wound and feel hurt by it, so you decide to hit yourself with a blue stick instead and still feel hurt. What is causing the pain? Is it because the wound hasn't got a chance to heal from the green stick or is it because of the blue stick? The answer is clear. It is not because of the green stick anymore but because you didn't stop hurting yourself over and over again...
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Johnnypupuke
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Hi tina i think what youre experiencing is interdose withdrawal and tolerance caused by the zopiclone i had the same thing happen to me that was the reason i ended up being put on invega the withdrawal coming off them equals that of invega and more but for you to be well again youll have to ask your doctor to put you on a valium taper to get off the zopiclone
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Day 131
I am hunched so I guess my serotonin levels are down today just like the 3 previous days. I am feeling somewhat like crap. Constantly looking for validation from others. I have a lot going in my life but it seems like it's never enough. I never feel grateful as my thought process is messed up.
Other than these things, I am feeling "normal". Looking forward to the complete remission.
I am hunched so I guess my serotonin levels are down today just like the 3 previous days. I am feeling somewhat like crap. Constantly looking for validation from others. I have a lot going in my life but it seems like it's never enough. I never feel grateful as my thought process is messed up.
Other than these things, I am feeling "normal". Looking forward to the complete remission.
invegauser
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@Rosi71: yes.
@zack365: yes, those are good signs even though they are hard to go through. it's called the comedown, like off of drugs and alcohol. medications are legal drugs after all. your last post is even better news. sorry your going through it but it's always darkest before the dawn.
@Tina3000: hi tina, been awhile. if your doctor said to get off of them then it doesn't make sense, they would've stopped giving you the script for it. either way if she said stop taking them then it's ok to do so.Baylissa might not have taken xeplion but she is inspirational in her own way don't you think?
we can't tell you what to do but we can tell you what works for us. remember a person or two at the time you first started posting was on seroquel as well.
@Yeshuah: doctors don't make them meds, they just prescribe it and continue to do so. it's a crapshoot when it comes to how the brain works and how a person reacts to meds. i digress, the point is doctors aren't making the med.
@Steph78: feeling a lil displaced lately? is that what you mean by the signals being delayed?
@zack365: yes, those are good signs even though they are hard to go through. it's called the comedown, like off of drugs and alcohol. medications are legal drugs after all. your last post is even better news. sorry your going through it but it's always darkest before the dawn.
@Tina3000: hi tina, been awhile. if your doctor said to get off of them then it doesn't make sense, they would've stopped giving you the script for it. either way if she said stop taking them then it's ok to do so.Baylissa might not have taken xeplion but she is inspirational in her own way don't you think?
we can't tell you what to do but we can tell you what works for us. remember a person or two at the time you first started posting was on seroquel as well.
@Yeshuah: doctors don't make them meds, they just prescribe it and continue to do so. it's a crapshoot when it comes to how the brain works and how a person reacts to meds. i digress, the point is doctors aren't making the med.
@Steph78: feeling a lil displaced lately? is that what you mean by the signals being delayed?
Yeshuah
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Starkid said:
"I would say that mostly I notice it in terms of my response to stimulants. To this day stimulants just don't affect me as much as they used to. I used to be quite sensitive to them. Now I am less sensitive than the average person. However, emotions, creativity, and speed of thoughts are within "good" parameters (as evaluated by me). I am satisfied with my recovery in other words. It could have been worse, but since my decision to not kill myself I've actually been able to accomplish quite a lot. There is a sense in which I am stronger. True, Invega does seem to have done some permanent lasting damage to some small part of my brain
(related to stimulants), but the part of me that survived appears to be stronger than it otherwise would have been."
@invegauser What do you think about that?
"I would say that mostly I notice it in terms of my response to stimulants. To this day stimulants just don't affect me as much as they used to. I used to be quite sensitive to them. Now I am less sensitive than the average person. However, emotions, creativity, and speed of thoughts are within "good" parameters (as evaluated by me). I am satisfied with my recovery in other words. It could have been worse, but since my decision to not kill myself I've actually been able to accomplish quite a lot. There is a sense in which I am stronger. True, Invega does seem to have done some permanent lasting damage to some small part of my brain
(related to stimulants), but the part of me that survived appears to be stronger than it otherwise would have been."
@invegauser What do you think about that?
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@Yeshuah: considering i did stimulants last night and that's not the case for me, i would say it's his perspective and individual case.
i'll know more after i wake up tomorrow. or in the next few days once the withdrawals from the stims subsides.
i'm actually looking forward to how the withdrawals go for me as a good way to gauge my healing progress.
i'll know more after i wake up tomorrow. or in the next few days once the withdrawals from the stims subsides.
i'm actually looking forward to how the withdrawals go for me as a good way to gauge my healing progress.
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Yeshuah
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What did you take as stimulant?
shadypenguin
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Guys oct 10 will be my day 1 of healing. I took 400mg of inVega altogether, hoping to have a fast recovery.
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@Yeshuah: adderral. considering how much i'm use to taking and last night wasn't even close to that amount i would say it has been most useful in gauging the healing process so far.
but it aint over until the fat lady sings. so i'm giving it a few days and will be observant of what i go through.
(i know, i suck for using recreationally again
. just have to get back up and try again, the atrophy is a real pain in the keister sometimes.)
@Rosi71: suppressed receptors. we're all different rosi. until you find out otherwise just keep working at the healing process. something will give sooner or late.
@shadypenguin: 3 more days until the first day. i'm excited, are you?
but it aint over until the fat lady sings. so i'm giving it a few days and will be observant of what i go through.
(i know, i suck for using recreationally again
. just have to get back up and try again, the atrophy is a real pain in the keister sometimes.)@Rosi71: suppressed receptors. we're all different rosi. until you find out otherwise just keep working at the healing process. something will give sooner or late.
@shadypenguin: 3 more days until the first day. i'm excited, are you?
Yeshuah
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@Empty yeah I also believe that it takes more time. I'm just hoping that I feel normal soon. If it takes longer for stimulants to work, it is ok, because when I'm normal again, I'm at least able to hope and work on myself again. I hope that I will be able to selfheal myself again. As soon as I reach the point where I can be in touch with my soul and spirit again, I think things will change faster for me. Still waiting for this to happen though... It feels like forever. The success stories I read here are not satisfying for me though. As they all seem to heal only a part of them. I wonder how they are today. If they can truly say that they recovered EVERYTHING. I would love to hear from those who said they recovered again. So if anyone of the recovered ones is reading this, please give us an update! Would really appreciate it. Empty, do you know any recovery stories from the Web?
@Empty do you smoke weed? Can you feel weed?
@Empty do you smoke weed? Can you feel weed?
Yeshuah
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Baylissas sunday message of encouragement
I know many of you get triggered by things you read on the Internet, things I say to you on the phone or in webinars and Q and As, etc. This is normal and when or if it happens, it is important that you do not blame yourself or the story or person you interacted with. Remind yourself that it is normal to be triggered, accept that it is happening and then regain the perspective that what happens to another person will not happen to you. So, today, if you get triggered by a story and your withdrawal brain tells you that yours is going to be similar and last as long or even longer, please remember that voice lies. Your symptoms and the way things are unfolding are just what your nervous system needs in order to heal. Even if it’s taking what feels like forever and you can’t see your way out, the healing is taking place.
Everyone heals. Even the most bizarre and cruel symptoms will relent. Over the years I have seen people who were polydrugged, given ECT, cold-turkeyed – no matter what the person’s history was, the healing took place and they made it to recovery. It will be the same for you. Please don’t give up. Keep holding on. Your recovery is on its way. It’s just a matter of time.
I know many of you get triggered by things you read on the Internet, things I say to you on the phone or in webinars and Q and As, etc. This is normal and when or if it happens, it is important that you do not blame yourself or the story or person you interacted with. Remind yourself that it is normal to be triggered, accept that it is happening and then regain the perspective that what happens to another person will not happen to you. So, today, if you get triggered by a story and your withdrawal brain tells you that yours is going to be similar and last as long or even longer, please remember that voice lies. Your symptoms and the way things are unfolding are just what your nervous system needs in order to heal. Even if it’s taking what feels like forever and you can’t see your way out, the healing is taking place.
Everyone heals. Even the most bizarre and cruel symptoms will relent. Over the years I have seen people who were polydrugged, given ECT, cold-turkeyed – no matter what the person’s history was, the healing took place and they made it to recovery. It will be the same for you. Please don’t give up. Keep holding on. Your recovery is on its way. It’s just a matter of time.
PLEASE Guys i talked to my doctor a friend of mine...She said seroquel and zopiclone influence different snyapsis (different dopamine and serotonine levels in the brain.... THERE ARE DIFFERENT SEROTONIN LEVELS in our brain didnt know that ...what do you guys think ? can i still take these pills against the effects of invega or do i have to do a withdrawals slowlsy BUT if i do a withdrawal i cant stand the effects of invega...PLEASE GUYS HELP they treated me wrong was never ill i just had mono when i put on these drugs they treated me wrong.... what shall i do? if i go off seroquel i might expierience withdrawasl psychosis Baylessa had that too i think...PLEASE any advise greatly appreciated...
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