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Mental Health Coming Off Invega Sustenna (Paliperidone) v.2

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no. But yesterday I heard this video on you-tube, what one of the users from Bluelight said, I think "Empty". And in the night the right hemisphere was not complett dead I think, but in the dreams I felt only like I feel in the days, never real vivid like in the past.
 
I was extreme sensible, when they gave me at first 1mg Risperdal I felt it in the night, my dreams were not free like normal, and then they injected me with 250 mg Xeplion.
 
zack365 said:
As I said I rode my bike on monday for 30 km. I always advised you to exercise and go all out but I can give you a few tips to heal smoothly and nicely because working out and doing exercises that require the muscles to work and pump lots of blood and oxygen will make the recovery a little annoying. So I did that on monday and today friday, I still feel the bad mood induced by monday's exercises. If you want to avoid these things, avoid working out too hard as well as riding your bike up and down the hills. But running and walking is fine.
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that is great info, thank you. sorry to hear your having a bad day, better than a wave i guess.

do you feel a heavy feeling in your muscles or a numb one?

btw, your post on praying and god puts a positive spin on ask and yee shall receive.

@shadypenguin: well said.

@dellad: i have, i'm pretty sure others have to. it makes it harder to deal with stressful situations. minding our limits and doing what we are capable of while under the poison is the best we can do and that's what counts right? i think it's important that you did recognize you weren't like this before, shows this is not you but what the poison is doing to you. like shadypenguin said, your still in there but the wet blanket of invega is holding you down, it wont last forever so accept and manage the best you can. i think it's all any of us can do in our own way, don't you?
 
An inspirational message from Baylissa Frederick to a Protracted Withdrawal friend......

‘Good morning. A friend who recently recovered has written to tell me it's over. She was very protracted and for a long time stopped expecting recovery. Every time we were in touch, I would remind her of the impermanence of withdrawal and I would confidently tell her she was going to get better. At times, on her worst days, I could hear the annoyance in her voice, then hesitation, whenever I'd say the symptoms would pass. It's a familiar quiet or heavy, charged silence that I have come to know over the years.
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I always smile to myself when I recognise it because I know the time will come when I will receive that "it's over" email or phone call.

Well, my friend's has arrived and for her, it's wonderful. For me, it's a joy to read and a reminder of why I do this. This is what she wrote:

"I made it!! I made it to the other side. The akathisia, head pressure, terror, sensitivities, nerve pain, all that awful stuff with my stomach and back, and the crazy paranoia, those nasty thoughts, OCD and other mental stuff left Bay. When we spoke last spring I felt I was going to die. I don't know if you remember but I told you I was getting worse instead of better. By August the symptoms were gone. Nothing is left Bay nothing. When you get to the end, you're not sure if it's the end. You're scared to say it is the end. Then you find out it's the end. No more waves. Bay, you were right. I am over the moon, thrilled to bits. I survived the worst experience and it is an amazing feeling. Thanks for everything. God bless."

If you woke up today with persisting symptoms, just remember that your day will come. This lady was one of the worst cases I have seen. She made it. You will too. So don't lose heart. Your time is coming. Remember, like you, she endured the terrifying nightmare of withdrawal and made it to recovery. Easier times lie ahead. Keep holding on.

Sending healing thoughts and wishes,
Baylissa’
 
Hello there my brothers and sisters

I want to write this message to you to tell you that I'm really sorry for what I've written the last few days. I didn't mean to let anyone down or scare anyone with my fear. I know that it is normal that I experience this and I have to accept that I will have to live with this fear as long as I'm on my journey walking towards the end. I learnt from "Baylissa" (who wrote the text above) that this is my withdrawal mind and that it will always be there until I've recovered. I just wanted to tell you that I believe in the ability of the body to heal itself completely from this drug. Even @Rosi will fully heal one day. Just keep going Rosi, some people will take longer that others, but it is not possible that this will stay forever. It will get better for everyone. No matter how long it takes. Just know that the day will come. Never give up hope.

Here's another inspiring text from Baylissa:

The withdrawal voice can be very convincing and persuasive. It speaks to you so regularly and so confidently, it can begin to sound like an authority and the one that tells the truth. It is not. It lies. It looks for everything that is going wrong and it challenges any positive statements you make to yourself. It tells you that you aren’t going to heal and it plays mind games.

If ever that withdrawal voice tries to tell you anything that you do not want to happen, don’t believe it. If it conjures up worst case scenarios, don’t believe it. Your rational mind is still very much intact, but it is obscured by withdrawal. Don’t give in to that withdrawal voice… to any fear it triggers. Just observe it without resisting or fighting it and allow it to say whatever it wants. Once the payoff it gets changes, it won’t have that power over you. So the key is to not try to control it, but to allow it. Then gently take your focus back to the fact that your healing is taking place.

All you need to do to get through today is to keep holding on, to take things moment by moment, hour by hour, and not give up. You must keep going because in time you will heal, you will exhale and breathe freely again. You will say ‘goodbye’ to withdrawal and move on. Just remember that this is your reality and not that withdrawal voice. There is another voice – the voice of truth – gently whispering, ‘This, too, shall pass. This, too, shall pass. This, too, shall pass.’ This is the voice you listen to. Keep going.

Sending healing thoughts and wishes, Baylissa
 
@invegauser there isn’t anymore I can do but to wait for time to heal both the mental and physical ailments. Time is deadly these days. So I have to play mind games. I ask myself why am I depressed and search something to keep me preoccupied. The pacing and searching my mind for answers only dissatisfies me further. It really is an uphill rollercoaster ride on AP Invega. I still don’t understand why they force this poison on me when I wasn’t even court ordered. It makes no sense at all! The doctors didn’t “trust” me on Risperdone so they forced me on Invega. And when I got out I chose to go no meds. So what was the point of me spending an extra 10days in the state hospital when I cannot tolerate Invega? Now I have to deal with unemployment and the adverse reactions to this poison spanding months recovery.

Interesting story. https://www.fiercepharma.com/regula...for-schizophrenia-blockbuster-raises-eyebrows

So they market this to potential inmates? How about to their company’s stock shareholders. Give them all coupons for free Invega Sustenna and see how their stocks will climb to crash fall plunder. ��
 
Does anyone get this reaction those with mental illness cannot be trusted? So I have a “history”. Say if I was accused of a crime and I denounce I was involved or acted upon it. Now what? Does the court acknowledge my history and toss out my reaction or accept my allowance? I feel as if I am less capable with a history of Schizophrenia, in the court system. It is as if I have been branded for life and cannot accept my word as sincere reliable truth. The judicial court system is scary when you have a mental history.
 
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@Hypocondryack: yes you will fully recover.

focusing on Rosi71 isn't going to help much but i have a question for you before your alt account gets banned. what do you hope to accomplish by trying to "out her"?

@zack365: i appreciate your speedy progress.

@Yeshuah: sounds very reminiscent of posters here in the past (some of us still here have posted similar), thanks for the positive posts. and don't worry, the poison plays with all of us like Baylissa says. just keep holding on and trying the best you can cause the poison doesn't discriminate, it makes all of us negative. that's why having hope temporarily removed from us makes us this way. it does not last forever, promise.

@dellad: oh boy, take breaks when reading this response if you need to.

nybryx posted a similar link awhile ago about invega being targeted towards those who break the law and are incarcerated, scary isn't it.

free coupons... HAHAHA! my sentiments exactly.

what your going through is one of the main reasons why we say stay distracted. it keeps you out of your head space and from worrying yourself until your climbing the walls. when it is inevitable please vent here (in a healthy way) if not get the stress out in another way.

i feel bad for anyone who suffers from the poison (really bad for the women) and a lil more so than most for those who are not use to being introverts of a sort. the poison shines a dark light on the inside of a person and makes you confront it without the light, love and experience for it but that doesn't mean you can't overcome it. i'm use to being deeper into my own head than most people are and sometimes i just got so sick of it i wanted to bash my brain in or drill a hole and let the poison out (drives you to think crazy thoughts for sure). like Baylissa's passage says don't believe it. distraction, eating healthy, putting in effort to heal and taking it one day at a time are doing what you can to get through this trial. the rest you just let happen because it is truly out of your control and that is part of accepting what has been done to you and also getting through this.

yes, quiet a few people here and irl have talked to me about being labeled and in the court system. the best thing to do is not focus on it. if you do you are playing up to the label. if someone is falsely accused it is in their best interests to work the system and prove them that they are wrong. doing so while suffering from the poison is extremely difficult but working the steps one at a time is optimal until your healed and can come at this from a better state of mind. in the mean time lashing out at them, simply trying to get them to accept they are wrong or denying it straight up is what "crazy" people do and only fortify what they think of you as far as being mentally ill goes. break it down, make it simple and try not to react when dealing with the judicial branch; it works in your favor. easier said then done right.

wait until you are healed and let them see how reasonable you are without this med making you not yourself. get what i mean?

btw the court system is even worse when you don't have a mental illness but you do have a suicide attempt. they really rivet that label to you good. wankers. that's one reason i try to stay as far away from courts and cops as much as possible.

if it pleases the court in closing: even those who suffer from it and make the attempt will find they have bettered themselves in unintended ways once this is all over. in the mean time hang in there.
 
Does memory come back please? I took 400mg altogether. I heard from another board they took just four to five shots and after five years their memory was still shot.
 
@shadypenguin: i went shopping in my home town today, same store my parents took me to when i was a kid. memories of the place and how much it changed, remembering going in there as a kid a bunch and nostalgia (yes, nostalgia comes back) bounced off my memories and it not only brought more memories back but old feelings/emotions and creating new ones as well.

never happened before in the last 8 years when i went into that store or home town and i must've been back there 20 times at least. my memory is no longer associating with what goes on in this thread through living without hope (not connecting as much), most of what i remember about posts and people are now based off new memories or just straight memorizing.

funny you bring this up.
 
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dellad said:
Interesting story. https://www.fiercepharma.com/regula...for-schizophrenia-blockbuster-raises-eyebrows

So they market this to potential inmates? How about to their company’s stock shareholders. Give them all coupons for free Invega Sustenna and see how their stocks will climb to crash fall plunder. ��
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That's a really bad reason to give invega sustenna. Of course, the time of relapse will be longer but these people will be like some of us bed ridden with no hope. To hell this drug.
 
@dellad
As you navigate your way and take care of yourself, please choose what you accept as your truth. Don’t rely on validation from anyone but yourself. Try not to get flustered if friends or family members allude to their being something else wrong or that what you are experiencing is due to the return of an ‘underlying condition’. Be careful with the opinions and subjective advice of others online and think carefully before you act on suggestions from people who may not fully understand the process.

Remind yourself that what is happening is not coincidental and that thousands of people are experiencing symptoms similar to yours, that emerged at the time of coming off the drug (or while in tolerance). Remember this always. Allow any existing rumination and thoughts. Don’t resist or struggle against them but just don’t believe them.

Remember, this is a healing process that leads to your recovery. Know that you will cope with whatever the day brings. You always find the strength and just like you got through yesterday, you will make it through today too. Validate your feelings and find ways to soothe and care for yourself. Continue to be strong, patient and accepting and wait it out. This is all you need to do. You can and will heal.

Baylissa

@shadypenguin Don't focus on the worst case scenarios, it is scary, but you never know if they were maybe on drugs through years before or after Invega or maybe still are and still accuse Invega for their memory loss because it's the last thing they can remember on how they lost their memory. I read about a lot of people who say that they still have problems and still take these kinds of drugs. I just can't understand how they can expect to heal while they still encumber their brain with chemical stuff. Your memory can heal. Baylissa also had memory loss for 3 years and healed completely.

@Hypocondryack I think you're in the wrong place here. I don't know what you expect from being here. Stop accusing people for being like they are right now. You never know what is underneath their suffering. Everyone deserves to be in this forum as long as they share their story without being mean to each other just like you are. I will report you post because it is not appropriate.

@Steph Is your memory back 100%?

@dellad The reason why they use this to get people out of prison is because people will remain in prison, but in their own body. It's as simple as that and it is scandalous. I would personally prefer being in prison for months than being like this..
 
http://cepuk.org/recovery-stories/

Look at number 4 of the videos, that's the video of Baylissa. She gives me a lot of hope.
She hasn't had Invega but she had Benzo's and suffered for 3 years of withdrawal.
However it's just to make you guys clear that the body is capable of healing from anything.
Yesterday I read an article from a girl who healed from a brain damage after a fall.
Everything is possible. Trust in the bodys abilities.
 
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