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Mental Health Coming Off Invega Sustenna (Paliperidone) v.2

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I agree with copperdome. I can't drink, smoke weed, until I got off the meds even cigarettes made me feel like shit after smoking they just made me more tired and it wasn't a clean buzz. I've been off it for 2 months and I'm able to smoke cigarettes again. I was sober for 2 years and I couldn't take it anymore. I even resorted to buying coke for the first time because it seemed like stimulants were the only drugs that worked. The highs are short lived off course especially because of the medication but at least I was doing something that made me feel good. I'm just looking forward to being able to smoke weed again someday.
 
I agree with everyone, except ho-chi-minh. @themostultimate I bought choline too, and it works a little. The anhedonia is lifted after I eat a strong meal, but no desire for homeworks... No buzz yet :\, looking on the bright side, fuck the other side.
 
sOrry homz i'm leaving. It's just that I felt this connexion I couldn't find anywhere else. I know I'm sorta wrong though, but his mama cried, and my mama cried.
 
The key is to do the exercise with speed and high amount of reps, and playing games, or just doing anything which challenges you to make decisions quickly.

The Brain is plastic guys! Most chess players know this, but they never share their secrets.

As far as the nicotine receptors and stimulation from recreational drugs goes. I simply don't know how to activate those, I think it is common sense to assume that they will regenerate too once you can get other areas of the brain activated. Finally, I had to add, the activation of the genitals is probably not a good idea, since after orgasm it will shut the brain off completely for up to 127 hours, resulting in more loss then what is gained.

Guys it takes the average person 66 days to rewire the brain and form a habit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YkvgVWSoLA

And one last thing: Invega takes a long time to recover from, along the journey you may end up having other bad things happening to you. Just remember to get back up and not give up. Just do it. Just keep on doing it.
 
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Your right, Aps are CNS depressants so they reduce blood flow, but I don't really understand how the drug work, as I don't understand shit. I can tell you by experience that every drugs are differents, and I never took Invega myself so I might have dodge a bullet. Depression is really harmful, once in a while you never get news from someone else. I hope they are in a safe place now. It doesn't seem like that big a deal on the short term, but in Japan there is a meth epidemic, and Invega is associated with early death. Again it's closely related to meth so it might not seems like that big a deal, as for Invega itself. Thanks for the support, most of my friends would lol
 
You are an inspiration man. Don't ever STOP! We only have one life and one brain and psychiatry stole it from me through 11 years of drugging through my whole development which turned me from the happiest most imaginative little boy in the world into an asexual emotionless 20 year old zombie. But I will not stop. I am not ready to die.

Do you think the Invega mainly harmed you or also the Haldol? What side effects or damage are you suffering from now?
 
Hey guys. Last time i posted was a few months ago. It has been about 7 months since my last injection and i feel so much better now. I feel like i have mostly recovered. I have recovered my creativity, my spontaneouty, my wit as well as my energy. I have been losing fat as well and feel very sharp and on the ball. The erectile disfunction is still present but it is much better than before, so i think that will recover too.

My advice for you guys is to not masturbate at all, that helps with your energy, your cognition, and also your happiness. I think that i might be 70-80% recovered at this point. I still don't feel pleasure the same as i did before and i don't enjoy getting drunk the same as before but those things have improved too.

I am sure that around the 12 month mark, i will be 100% recovered based on my pace of recovery. My processing of information when reading has improved too, even though i am still not as good of a reader as before. Be optimistic. I feel pretty good and have been doing alot with my time like writing screenplays, making music, reading and bulk applying for work. I have recently moved into a different neighbourhood and there is a gym very close to me, so i am going to sign up soon and start focusing on lifting weights and dieting. I feel very confident at the moment. Take care guys.
 
Shay96 said:
Hey guys. Last time i posted was a few months ago. It has been about 7 months since my last injection and i feel so much better now. I feel like i have mostly recovered. I have recovered my creativity, my spontaneouty, my wit as well as my energy. I have been losing fat as well and feel very sharp and on the ball. The erectile disfunction is still present but it is much better than before, so i think that will recover too.

My advice for you guys is to not masturbate at all, that helps with your energy, your cognition, and also your happiness. I think that i might be 70-80% recovered at this point. I still don't feel pleasure the same as i did before and i don't enjoy getting drunk the same as before but those things have improved too.

I am sure that around the 12 month mark, i will be 100% recovered based on my pace of recovery. My processing of information when reading has improved too, even though i am still not as good of a reader as before. Be optimistic. I feel pretty good and have been doing alot with my time like writing screenplays, making music, reading and bulk applying for work. I have recently moved into a different neighbourhood and there is a gym very close to me, so i am going to sign up soon and start focusing on lifting weights and dieting. I feel very confident at the moment. Take care guys.
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It has been good to hear from you. I remember my timeline to be very close to yours. I am in the same position; getting drunk is not what it once was, but that is slowly coming back. I am going to CDL school and for this reason I am almost glad there was such a blunting effect to my ability to catch a buzz. If there was not I would have never attempted this better career. I wish you all luck in your career and personal lives. Let me know how you all are, and I am always here to talk with you all!
 
Don't think exercise is that important whilst your going through this experience unless its something you enjoy. I think just trying to chill out and getting through each day as stress free as possible is more impotant.
 
Just got on this invega shit. Involuntary once a month for 6 month 100mg shots plus I got pumped with 2 shots in 2.5 weeks along with a 6 mg pill every night. I've only got to take the 6mg pill for another 16 days then it's just a once a month thing... Loss off sex drive and these really odd muscle thingss where I go really slow when I lay down and can't get comfy compared to just being able to relax in bed as usual! . Anyone copped the same slow weak muscles effect? I'm hoping it backs off after I stop the tablet!? I'm just on week 3 :( thank fuck it's only 6 months! What was the average recovery time?
 
Sorry for double postitng, already got a warning off a mod via PM for it. Thanks for your reply. I won't touch the meth, only got a tiny small amount of chopped cannabis left so I might as well smoked it and stop that too. Thanks for the info :)
 
I'm doing ok. Working and making some money, though I still feel lobotomized ( partially) with sexual deprivation. 9 months.

Any of you think of working on an organic farm while you heal?

I figure I could trek up to Canada and live on a farm with the money I save... Sunshine nature and staying busy until I heal
 
Invegavictim said:
Hi folks, I have been reading since V1 of the thread and I am also an invega victim. I received 3 shots. Last one two months ago.

English is not my first language.

So far, no improvements.

My symptons are total sexual dysfuncion and HUGE INSOMNIA. Does anyone else here have insomonia as side effect? I dont see many conplaining about it.

I also took haldol, cant remember the dosage, for about a week. I dont know if my insominia and sexual dysfuntion is a permanent haldol side effect or if its just the invega shots still acting.

I dont feel so much anhedonia or weigght gain. I also dont feel much like crap and depressed like most of you here

I think i am perma fucked couse of haldol+invega. And I never had schizophrenia.
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I wish someone would give a fuck about my post here.
 
Invegavictim said:
I wish someone would give a fuck about my post here.
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Don't worry buddy.. you will recover all of your faculties in time, I know it sucks to wait if you're a young adult and are being held back from accomplishing your goals like school, work and developing and maintaining relationships with family and friends because of these horrible drugs. I was pretty much in the same position as you.. except I got real bad anedonia and severe cognitive impairments, (felt like a intellectual disability) sleep cycle changes aka insomnia, along with sexual disfunction off only 2 shots of invega 234mg and 156mg. Also, I was taking risperidone pills for two weeks and I received a week shot of haldol while I was in the hospital to help with my paranoid thoughts. I do believe my case in particular was misdiagnosed to be big polar type 1, I was using alot of weed and cocaine and not sleeping at the time which caused me to have a TEMPORARY psychotic breakdown. I don't know where you live, but here in the United States they prescribe you a pill for any problem and send you on your way.. This is really sad because it can and does destroy people's lives in my opinion to prescribe people these labotomizing drugs to people who do not have really mental disorders.

It just takes time and patience for the drug to leave your system, but YOU WILL recover in time. You can speed up this process by staying away from all alcohol, weed, cocaine, meth and any other antipsychotics that they tell you have to take. They are fucking quack doctors that just want to make money they are not thing about your health at all trust me. Then start eating really healthy fruits, vegetables and protien, talking vitamins, b12, fish oil, magnesium, vitamin D, and exercising ALOT, you will be able to do this when the initial shock of the drug leaves your system. However make sure you ease into your exercise regiment because these drugs also mess with the rhythmic system of your heart... It took me about 5 solid months before I gathered enough strength to get to the gym. Also, get alot of natural sun light, even if it is just 15 minutes of sun bathing in your backyard so you can swear the poison out of your pours.. if you can go to the gym and use the sauna to swear this would really help also.

I hope this information was helpful and I can really stand behind everything that I explained to help rid these horrible drugs from your body and mind. I was in a really dark place a year ago... and my old post can prove that. I thought I would never recover from the invega poisoning, but your body has a great ability to heal itself, you just have to live a sober lifestlye to realize this. It took about a full year to feel like myself again... but stay strong everyone who is suffering and really take my advice and you will recover. Don't ever lose hope and make the right decisions and you can beat this.

God Bless my fellow antipsychotic suffers.
 
New member trying to survive the poison Xeplion (Invega Sustenna)

Hello everyone,

It took me a while to read through all the posts from v1 and v2, but after more than 3000 of posts I am finally there. Since I am new I will try to give an introduction. I am a 28 year old male from The Netherlands and am currently trying to finish my master thesis at the local university.

I have had two psychotic episodes, in December 2013 and October 2015. No drugs were involved, only stress (a lot of stress). I have had Cisordinol (Clopixol) to get me out of the psychosis in both occasions. When changing from Cisordinol to Risperdal the first psychosis I suffered from severe akathisia and suicidial tendencies. I was in a mental hospital for 3 months after my first psychosis and 1 month after the second. Getting off the Cisordinol the second psychosis was no issue since I already received Xeplion (Invega Sustenna) shots.

I have been injected with Xeplion (Invega Sustenna) since about March 2014 until now, with different dosages. First the starting dosages of 150mg and 100mg, slightly reducing it . I was stable on 50mg in 2014 and parts of 2015. When I lowered to 25mg round about July/August 2015 I became psychotic in October. This means I became psychotic while still receiving anti-psychotics.

When I started showing the first symptoms of psychosis October 2015 they injected me with 50mg Xeplion, while I recently already had 25mg. This didn't work and I still became psychotic. I had about 2% to 5% of the stress compared to the first time I went psychotic, a lot less. I am afraid the Xeplion has changed my brain chemistry in such a way that I am way more vulnerable to psychosis than before. That is why I am currently reducing the dosages only 5mg at the time, even though those are not provided (they inject a bit less than what is in the syringe).

Now the first time I received the Xeplion shots I had issues with concentration and my emotions were flattened, but it wasn't all too bad. No sexual dysfunction and I still could experience joy. However when I received Xeplion injections after my second psychosis, life became a hell on earth. Severe anhedonia made me think about killing myself every single day. I was actually secretly preparing everything to book a flight to a Scandinavian country (probably Sweden or Finland) and try to live (read: slowly die) in the wild by fishing and drinking fresh water. Maybe get some supplies at first, but not take any medication and go mad or die from starvation. Thinking about that and preparing all that gave me some rest and assurance as if I had a back-up plan in case I couldn't take it any more.

After about 8 to 10 months since my second psychosis (not sure how much), three months after reducing the dosage Xeplion from 50mg to 40mg my anhedonia suddenly improved in that I could experience some joy (not much, but a little is WAY more than nothing at all). Life currently sucks, but I am no longer thinking about dying every day which is a huge improvement. Finishing my study is very difficult and it is taking ages, but I will get there eventually.

Right now my biggest concern is whether or not I will become psychotic again lowering my dosage Xeplion. I am taking my time and going slower than slow, but there is no way in telling what will happen. The only thing I do know is that if I become psychotic again I do not want my anti-psychotic dosage increased. I would rather just die to be honest. I am currently searching for a place to stay where I can get through a possible psychosis without anti-psychotics (Soteria, Open-Dialogue etc.). I haven't found anywhere where I could go, they give you AP everywhere. I must be honest, right now if I get the first hints of another psychotic breakdown the first thing I do is pack my things and book a ticket to the wilderness. I will probably die there but everything is better than getting AP's. My psychotic episodes were a lot of fun before I received AP's so I don't care about turning mad. I only hope to find an alternative. Just wishfully thinking that slowly reducing my medication will not make me psychotic is not enough, I need a back-up.

From what I have read, most people here abruptly stopped their injections after the first few months. I believe their brain hasn't altered in such a way that they become vulnerable for another episode when staying away from severe stress or drugs. I on the other hand have received them for over 3 years and am afraid that my brain has become dependent. From whoever relapsed, did you receive AP's for a long period of time? Or did people relapse (without taking drugs) after receiving only a few shots? I am curious whether people have come successfully off Xeplion when receiving it for longer than 1 or 2 years. By the way, the guideline here in The Netherlands (at least at my mental hospital) is to receive AP's after the first psychosis for 2 years, and 5 years after the second psychosis (ha-ha I rather jump off a cliff). I wish I would have done my research after my first psychosis, but I believed the docs and thought I would be fine if I fixed my stress related problems. Otherwise I would have quit my medication right after my positive symptoms went away the first time.

Anyways, I can talk about this all day, but my post is getting too long. I wish the best for everyone and I hope that the general public will some day get informed about the malpractices and corruption of psychiatrists and the pharmaceutical industry. This is getting way out of hand.

If there are any questions feel free to ask.

TLDR:
-New here
-Two psychotic episodes
-Xeplion (Invega Sustenna) injections since beginning 2014 until now
-Severe anhedonia and many other side effects
-Looking for a place to stay if I relapse from lowering medication
-Money is the root of all evil
 
Invegasucks said:
Don't worry buddy.. you will recover all of your faculties in time, I know it sucks to wait if you're a young adult and are being held back from accomplishing your goals like school, work and developing and maintaining relationships with family and friends because of these horrible drugs. I was pretty much in the same position as you.. except I got real bad anedonia and severe cognitive impairments, (felt like a intellectual disability) sleep cycle changes aka insomnia, along with sexual disfunction off only 2 shots of invega 234mg and 156mg. Also, I was taking risperidone pills for two weeks and I received a week shot of haldol while I was in the hospital to help with my paranoid thoughts. I do believe my case in particular was misdiagnosed to be big polar type 1, I was using alot of weed and cocaine and not sleeping at the time which caused me to have a TEMPORARY psychotic breakdown. I don't know where you live, but here in the United States they prescribe you a pill for any problem and send you on your way.. This is really sad because it can and does destroy people's lives in my opinion to prescribe people these labotomizing drugs to people who do not have really mental disorders.

It just takes time and patience for the drug to leave your system, but YOU WILL recover in time. You can speed up this process by staying away from all alcohol, weed, cocaine, meth and any other antipsychotics that they tell you have to take. They are fucking quack doctors that just want to make money they are not thing about your health at all trust me. Then start eating really healthy fruits, vegetables and protien, talking vitamins, b12, fish oil, magnesium, vitamin D, and exercising ALOT, you will be able to do this when the initial shock of the drug leaves your system. However make sure you ease into your exercise regiment because these drugs also mess with the rhythmic system of your heart... It took me about 5 solid months before I gathered enough strength to get to the gym. Also, get alot of natural sun light, even if it is just 15 minutes of sun bathing in your backyard so you can swear the poison out of your pours.. if you can go to the gym and use the sauna to swear this would really help also.

I hope this information was helpful and I can really stand behind everything that I explained to help rid these horrible drugs from your body and mind. I was in a really dark place a year ago... and my old post can prove that. I thought I would never recover from the invega poisoning, but your body has a great ability to heal itself, you just have to live a sober lifestlye to realize this. It took about a full year to feel like myself again... but stay strong everyone who is suffering and really take my advice and you will recover. Don't ever lose hope and make the right decisions and you can beat this.

God Bless my fellow antipsychotic suffers.
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invegauser said:
@Invegavictim: life is rough for all of us. we see you suffering and we're right there with you. i also took haldol, i have been prescribed many psych meds after receiving invega. the doctors thought to counteract one medication with a bunch of others would be a good idea. that didn't go so well. i am currently not on any medications for several reasons, mostly because none of them did anything to help with what the poison has done.

your english is pretty good. quiet a few of those who have posted on both threads have no mental illness, it seems anyone who has a temporary psychosis or some kind of interruption in life and seek medical assistance are habitually given this poison freely. as well as those who exhibit any kind of mental related illness. sexual dysfunctions and insomnia are typical side effects of many psych meds today, more specifically AP's or anti-psychotics. so it's hard to say which one caused those symptoms for you. most likely it is the invega shots still acting up. i have had both of those side effects as well as quiet a few others here, it gets better and goes away completely.

the average recovery time for invega is 8-10 months even on so few of injections. it is ridiculous, we all know. if your not going through anhedonia, weight gain, feeling like crap or going through depression then what are you experiencing besides sexual dysfunction and insomnia?

btw: anhedonia is the inability to feel pleasure. the inability to feel much at all is more accurate in this case. the feelings we have with our bodies, the spectrum of emotions both good and bad, the firing of electricity and chemicals in our brains, and other sensations as well. it effectively numbed anyone who takes it but we are all different and some of us experience this more than others while a select few do not feel this at all. invega in this case didn't stop those things from happening but rather capped them off at the source. when we get angry or depressed it is the strongest of emotions pushing through what the poison has done, to me this is a good sign. those emotions are still there meaning we are still who we are, just not at this moment due to the poison. my motivation has always been strong and i have retained it through out this trial. invega prevented me from effectively using it. big difference wouldn't you agree?
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Thanks for the feedback guys. Besides sexual dysfunction and insomnia, there isnt much more to what I am experiencing. I cant find pleasure in music, there is that. And thats horrible. Life feels so empty, I often think about suicide. All I need is a gun and my brains would fly off.

I am ejaculating a water like substance, and that only happens with ALOT of effort and stimulation.

I dont know what feeling sleepy feels like every since this injections.

I am from Brazil, 25yr old
 
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