Mental Health Coming Off Invega Sustenna (Paliperidone) v.2

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...I cant find pleasure in music, there is that. And thats horrible. Life feels so empty, I often think about suicide. All I need is a gun and my brains would fly off.
Can you find pleasure in other things like movies, video games or sports? Being empty inside and wondering why you are living at all, combined with not being able to experience joy in what you used to enjoy is classic anhedonia. It can be selective though, only focusing on a single (or more) specific modalities (like for instance: music). There have been studies that suggest that there are specific parts of the brain that account for the different modalities. I find it hard to imagine that, unless you are a musician, only losing interest in music can cause life to feel empty. That is, if you enjoy the rest of the things you used to. Just know it gets better over time, you will eventually start enjoying things again. Like often said: 'suicide is a permanent solution for a temporary problem'.

The only thing I wonder about is that you earlier said: "I also dont feel much like crap and depressed like most of you here." though you think about suicide. That is a contradiction in my eyes. In all my years before this poison, I have not once thought about suicide. It is not considered normal to think about that. It could be though that you just think most of us are feeling worse than bad, which I can imagine considering some of the posts. Just don't underestimate your feelings, that is what I am trying to say.

I am ejaculating a water like substance, and that only happens with ALOT of effort and stimulation.
Could both be the Haldol as Invega Sustenna since both have a high risk of sexual dysfunction. I personally have experienced sexual dysfunction on Risperdal (Risperidone), but not on Xeplion (Invega Sustenna). It is often dosage dependent but since you are not receiving either any more my bet is on the Invega Sustenna. I think most people recover from that at month 4 to 5. Don't hold me responsible if it doesn't though, it is more of a guideline than a rule.

I dont know what feeling sleepy feels like every since this injections.
Insomnia is a very common side-effect, but not mentioned that much because I think for most it is not the worst of them all. Not being able to feel sleepy sounds very bad though and can be dangerous to your health as well. You might want to check that out, though do not just take pills for it. I am not sure what most do about it, I just have to accept that I can barely fall asleep, wake up several times during the night and feel more exhausted waking up than going to sleep. I refuse to get dependent on another drug, which probably doesn't even work.

I am from Brazil, 25yr old
That kinda explains the importance of sex (and not being able to). In some cultures it is a lot more important than others. Having the fear of it to be permanent is scary though, but since you can ejaculate watery stuff it will most likely be a temporary problem. I think some have mentioned trying to get your prolactine level checked out, but someone else should confirm this.

I wish you all the best in recovering.
 
Can you find pleasure in other things like movies, video games or sports? Being empty inside and wondering why you are living at all, combined with not being able to experience joy in what you used to enjoy is classic anhedonia. It can be selective though, only focusing on a single (or more) specific modalities (like for instance: music). There have been studies that suggest that there are specific parts of the brain that account for the different modalities. I find it hard to imagine that, unless you are a musician, only losing interest in music can cause life to feel empty. That is, if you enjoy the rest of the things you used to. Just know it gets better over time, you will eventually start enjoying things again. Like often said: 'suicide is a permanent solution for a temporary problem'.

The only thing I wonder about is that you earlier said: "I also dont feel much like crap and depressed like most of you here." though you think about suicide. That is a contradiction in my eyes. In all my years before this poison, I have not once thought about suicide. It is not considered normal to think about that. It could be though that you just think most of us are feeling worse than bad, which I can imagine considering some of the posts. Just don't underestimate your feelings, that is what I am trying to say.


Could both be the Haldol as Invega Sustenna since both have a high risk of sexual dysfunction. I personally have experienced sexual dysfunction on Risperdal (Risperidone), but not on Xeplion (Invega Sustenna). It is often dosage dependent but since you are not receiving either any more my bet is on the Invega Sustenna. I think most people recover from that at month 4 to 5. Don't hold me responsible if it doesn't though, it is more of a guideline than a rule.


Insomnia is a very common side-effect, but not mentioned that much because I think for most it is not the worst of them all. Not being able to feel sleepy sounds very bad though and can be dangerous to your health as well. You might want to check that out, though do not just take pills for it. I am not sure what most do about it, I just have to accept that I can barely fall asleep, wake up several times during the night and feel more exhausted waking up than going to sleep. I refuse to get dependent on another drug, which probably doesn't even work.


That kinda explains the importance of sex (and not being able to). In some cultures it is a lot more important than others. Having the fear of it to be permanent is scary though, but since you can ejaculate watery stuff it will most likely be a temporary problem. I think some have mentioned trying to get your prolactine level checked out, but someone else should confirm this.

I wish you all the best in recovering.

I had my prolactin checked out.

Its on 43. Normal levels range between 2 and 21. I am screwed.

I know i should be doing a better quote for all you said, but I am too depressed rigght now.
 
Hello everyone. I hope you all are improving. Today marks 7 months exactly off for me. I am still having trouble but I am seeing improvements. My depression is nearly gone but I still have anhedonia quite badly. I still cannot get drunk but I am seeing improvement in that area as well. I honestly think the only thing that can help us is time. I honestly don't think it matters if you take supplements or masturbate or anything. I really don't think anything can speed or slow the recovery. I hope you all heal quickly.
 
I see everybody saying they cant get drunk. I could.

Makes me wonder if its really invega affecting me. Could be a permanent haldol damage since haldol does not cut the ability to get drunk, right?

Guess I will always wonder between haldol and invega
 
@copperdome are you still taking Wellbutrin? Or you are med free ? Good job on makin to Month 7
Thank you very much for asking me and being interested in my recovery. Yes I am still taking Wellbutrin 450 mg a day. It does not work at all like it used too (I was on it before I became psychotic and it really helped a lot) however it has helped very much with the sexual dysfunction. I suspect in a month or two it will start working like it use to and I suspect I will be able to feel alcohol normally as well. If I was not an addict I suspect I would feel like I was nearly recoverd, but not being able to catch a buzz really bothers me. Thanks again for your interest in my recovery , and I will keep everyone updated!
 
Safe place to stay without AP

Like I mentioned during my introduction, I am currently trying to get off my Xeplion (Invega Sustenna) slowly. However, I feel like I am very much at risk to become psychotic again because I have taken Xeplion (Invega Sustenna) for over 3 years now. The longer you are on it, the more likely you become psychotic when coming off (because of brain alterations due to the poison).

I would like to know if there are any places in Europe (or maybe outside Europe?) where you can stay if you become psychotic again, without being forced to take anti-psychotics at all (I don't mind other medication). I do not want to go back to a higher dosage of AP, I can not take another 8 to 12 months of severe anhedonia again. I surely would commit suicide if that happens. Right now I am tempted to go 'into the wild' if I feel like I am becoming psychotic. That can't be a good idea without having any experience. I just hope there is an alternative. Does anyone know any safe place, hopefully with insurance covering it?
 
Like I mentioned during my introduction, I am currently trying to get off my Xeplion (Invega Sustenna) slowly. However, I feel like I am very much at risk to become psychotic again because I have taken Xeplion (Invega Sustenna) for over 3 years now. The longer you are on it, the more likely you become psychotic when coming off (because of brain alterations due to the poison).

I would like to know if there are any places in Europe (or maybe outside Europe?) where you can stay if you become psychotic again, without being forced to take anti-psychotics at all (I don't mind other medication). I do not want to go back to a higher dosage of AP, I can not take another 8 to 12 months of severe anhedonia again. I surely would commit suicide if that happens. Right now I am tempted to go 'into the wild' if I feel like I am becoming psychotic. That can't be a good idea without having any experience. I just hope there is an alternative. Does anyone know any safe place, hopefully with insurance covering it?

You are tempted to go into the wild? Are sure you haven't gone psychotic already? lol I'm just kidding. However I think you are the only one in your country posting right now, I think most of us are in the U.S. So I don't know if any of us are going to have the answers you are looking for.
 
I read the forum, people talk about 8 - 10 months for recovery after their last injection, here I made it hardly to one Month.. and you guys are saying months and months.. yes invega is poison but I think recovery time is stretched by a lot of you.. I feel like a zombie it could be this way while your on injections or for few months after like 4 months but not 10 ??? It just doesn't make sense.. the people that are takin 8 - 10 months are they med free or they takin some other medicine along
You didn't get an injection of invega in your ass if you recoverd in one month. To say people are stretching it is a slap in the face to anyone going thru this hell.
 
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the average healing time is 8-10 months. invega comes in a pill form as well as a once a month and once every 3 months long lasting injection. a few of us talked to a couple people who took the experimental liquid form of it awhile back. it was understood in the first version that the average healing time is that but it wasn't established or posted until the second version of this thread i believe. the pill form is far easier to find relief once you have stopped taking it. the injection is what causes most of the problems we talk about here. the average is a general rule of thumb. some people have healed quicker than that and some take longer, all at different dosages and taking it for different reasons. we all heal at different rates.

don't think about how long it takes, it will drive you nuts with worry if you do. focus on the day to day and doing what you can to aid the healing process. we all have had disbelief at what is going on in the begging and it is ok, it is natural. the side effects, withdrawal symptoms and comedown are all manageable in time and then just go away. you can do this, hang in there. lots of people who have come before you here have healed and returned to talk about it, the rest have simply moved on after healing. anything else positive and i will defer to others here more optimistic and supportive than i am.

@copperdome: that's great news. sounds like you might be almost over the hump, everything should be downhill and getting better for you soon. waves get shorter and the windows get that much sweeter. keep up the good work buddy. thanks for the update.
Thank you! I'm sorry the other post made me so mad I didn't see this at first. I hope all is well with you!
 
Some people on other foruns say that AP,s can shrink testicles, especially haldol injections. I took the pills, but whatever.

I dont know, maybe I am really doomed and my balls are really smaller. Maybe its true. I feel less manly, and this only add up to what I see.
 
Hey guys,

It has been 5 months now from my one 156mg shot. I made a full recovery! I feel a lot better. Mentally I am at 110%. I began to feel better after 3 months. Libido is good too. Excellent in fact. Hormones still not that good since I don't get that sore from workouts, but it all seems to be improving slowly.

After the shot I rested for 2 months and just did light exercise. Then I added brain training in my 3rd month. Thinking about it, for those who just got the shot, they should relax for a while before getting on the with recovery program. The supplements and detox juice also helped quite a bit. I am exercising at the gym nearly everyday now, or I do my video at home and curl the dumbbells, and I do brain training which is the main reason I am saying I feel recovered. Anhedonia is completely gone, I feel more joy than ever before.

I subbed to brainhq.com for the brain training, and I play a bunch of board games i.e. Chess and GO, and I play puzzle games. I am forcing myself to get back. I never thought the brain was like a muscle. I am kind of glad that Invega introduced me to brain training. Exercise is a must too. I think supplements are somewhat of a requirement as well. CDP Choline really helps with boosting the recovery. Detox juice was also a huge thing that helped. Just go over my pre posts to see my list of supplements. MAKE SURE YOU ARE NOT ON THE SHOTS WHEN YOU START TRAINING OTHERWISE YOU WILL GET IT MUCH WORSE.

I forgot to mention in my pre posts that you must absolutely get a water filter that filters out fluoride! I did my research and found that the ZERO WATER filters filter out fluoride.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2frJ3e0hxPE


Personally, in my life I like to lie and cheat a lot, and I act like a jerk to everyone, especially those I don't like, and I don't give a F---. I call this magic. I think this really helps with recovery if you learn this lifestyle.
If you think about it, it's those people who lie that succeed in life. Although I am against lying, but I think for a noble cause makes it absolutely justified. Anything for survival.

Hang in there, it all gets better if you put your mind to it, and like I said in my last post, don't let setbacks set you back, never give up, just start again at a slower pace. Just do it, just keep on doing it.

Lets give these SATANIST who poisoned us HELL.
 
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@themostultimate
Well done! is your memory improved and sharp as before ? I have long and short term memory loss, at what Month does the memory start improving. Btw I had 4 injections so it'll prolly take me longer than that


My memory is back better than ever. I started losing my memory a while back in mid-school, when my family put me on drugs, on-and-off but continuous for the last 1 1/2 year. After about 2 months of brain training, I feel like the A+ student I was in elementary school. Back then I used to remember everything taught in class for the good week. After invega I was unable to memorize. Memory came back after I started brain training (around after 3 months). My memory is up to so much and it keeps improving. My mind isn't blank anymore. I just close my eyes and go into a fantasy world of imagination. I truly feel great.

ONE MORE THING: Sun gazing helps a lot too.

 
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@posisoned_veins I misunderstood sorry. @TheMostUltimate, do you drink or use drugs recreationally? I would imagine you wouldn't be able to feel the effects if so. @Invegauser thanx I am glad you are doing well.
 
Watch out for CrOOks on here. Psychiatry, Illuminati, Rothschild crooks watching to observe your behavior. I'm sure you can easily figure out who they are after reading what they have already written, and the reply you get from them.
 
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No, I don't.
I would imagine if you did drink or drug then you wouldn't feel it. I would have considered myself recovered already if it wasn't for the problem of not being able to catch a buzz. Has your anhedonia completely gone? Congratulations on your recovery and I am glad to hear you are doing well!
 
You are tempted to go into the wild? Are sure you haven't gone psychotic already? lol I'm just kidding. However I think you are the only one in your country posting right now, I think most of us are in the U.S. So I don't know if any of us are going to have the answers you are looking for.
Haha, yeah, I would ask the same thing if I were you ;). Thanks for the reply, I would go just about anywhere in the world if I could go through a possible psychosis without any anti-psychotics. Getting as far away from the nearest society is currently the only way to avoid getting into the hands of people who will call the cops and force an AP on me. You can tell here in The Netherlands beforehand that you do not wish to receive medication, but if you are a danger to yourself or others, or when you have to be submitted for too long, they can force you on AP's anyways. Being psychotic equals a possible danger for yourself or others and not receiving an AP will always have you submitted longer than without AP's. This means you will get violated with this poison no matter what. No thank you, I would rather just die in the woods if I get psychotic again (due to pro-psychotic 'anti'-psychotics).

I checked out Soteria here in The Netherlands, but they give you AP's as well. I believe someone started an anti-medication facility with 6 beds in the north of Norway https://www.madinamerica.com/2017/03/the-door-to-a-revolution-in-psychiatry-cracks-open/, but I am sure my insurance will not cover that (and I am broke at the moment because of my study). I can't stay at my family/friends/girlfriend because I do crazy stuff being in a psychosis so here I am back again to my plan to go into the woods if I feel it coming again. Luckily there are some major signs before I turn mad, so I can get away before they lock me up. Is it smart? No. Do I have another choice? At the moment, no. Unless someone knows a better place to go =).
 
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