Mental Health Coming Off Invega Sustenna (Paliperidone) v.2

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Hey u'all ! How are you ?

I have been really away from here, since I recovered I have been too busy going out and doing all the activities I can! Does anyone more had any success recovery story? How is @BadRobot ?

So I must say you that since I stopped the pills (march), the gym started giving results!

I have been measuring my weight, body and visceral fat and muscle mass, and I am so happy with the results now, that I will share with you !

10th January:
Weight: 89kg
Fat Mass: 33.1%
Muscle Mass: 32.6%
Visceral fat: 11


15th June:
Weight: 89.3kg
Fat mass: 25.3kg
Muscle mass: 63.4 kgs
Visceral fat: 8


15th July:
Weight: 87.1kg
Fat mass: 23.7%
Muscle mass: 63.2kgs
Visceral fat: 7


16th August:
Weight: 84.6kgs
Fat mass: 21.5%
Muscle mass: 63.1kgs
Visceral fat: 6

So regarding my body I am will not give up till I get my abs back!
About the other part, everything is fine! I easly watch movies and series again without any problem! I have long conversations with my friend, and I have been partying so much! Not smoking anymore any kind of drugs! I am only with alcohol and cigars and still I get so much fun!!

I wish you all the best recovery! And hopefully you will get even better than me!!
Good luck guys!
Mister T
 
Hey u'all ! How are you ?

I have been really away from here, since I recovered I have been too busy going out and doing all the activities I can! Does anyone more had any success recovery story? How is @BadRobot ?

So I must say you that since I stopped the pills (march), the gym started giving results!

I have been measuring my weight, body and visceral fat and muscle mass, and I am so happy with the results now, that I will share with you !

10th January:
Weight: 89kg
Fat Mass: 33.1%
Muscle Mass: 32.6%
Visceral fat: 11


15th June:
Weight: 89.3kg
Fat mass: 25.3kg
Muscle mass: 63.4 kgs
Visceral fat: 8


15th July:
Weight: 87.1kg
Fat mass: 23.7%
Muscle mass: 63.2kgs
Visceral fat: 7


16th August:
Weight: 84.6kgs
Fat mass: 21.5%
Muscle mass: 63.1kgs
Visceral fat: 6

So regarding my body I am will not give up till I get my abs back!
About the other part, everything is fine! I easly watch movies and series again without any problem! I have long conversations with my friend, and I have been partying so much! Not smoking anymore any kind of drugs! I am only with alcohol and cigars and still I get so much fun!!

I wish you all the best recovery! And hopefully you will get even better than me!!
Good luck guys!
Mister T

How do you calculate your visceral fat #?
 
Well done MrTi I guess you give me hope for the next week ill be waiting for my next appointment with my pdoc in which im going to ask for total finishing of my treatment.

Lately i'm having lots of energy where my body is almost exploding and I have to move around everywhere to spend that energy.
I thought my sleeping patterns would go to normal as I got used to the medication but no, I still sleep for 12 hours every day for the last 8 months and I couldn't sleep or make a nap during that time, my body just shuts off at night.

Well I think I should say to my doctor that not much has changed since I started it..If I try to explain from my personal position I would say i got much calmer in the head (thoughts) but I became a little bit apathetic and numb and my neck is always stiff.

That energy that I have can be akathisia, right? should I call my pdoc?
 
Mister T where you ever on invega sustena or just tbe invega pills?

No, I have never been in invega sustena (as long as I know! maybe when I was knocked out in the Hospital recovering.. but I don't really think so).
I mean, from what I am aware of, it was only invega pills!!

How do you calculate your visceral fat #?

I used an appropriate weighing-machine from the gym I go every day, the personal trainer just press a few buttons (defining as input my age and height), then I pop in in the machine and it gives all the numbers :)
Actually I would like to know how visceral fat is calculated...


Well done MrTi I guess you give me hope for the next week ill be waiting for my next appointment with my pdoc in which im going to ask for total finishing of my treatment.

Lately i'm having lots of energy where my body is almost exploding and I have to move around everywhere to spend that energy.
I thought my sleeping patterns would go to normal as I got used to the medication but no, I still sleep for 12 hours every day for the last 8 months and I couldn't sleep or make a nap during that time, my body just shuts off at night.

Well I think I should say to my doctor that not much has changed since I started it..If I try to explain from my personal position I would say i got much calmer in the head (thoughts) but I became a little bit apathetic and numb and my neck is always stiff.

That energy that I have can be akathisia, right? should I call my pdoc?

Thank you Spiralspider! That's really great to know ! you are going on a good way (for the people that don't know, I sent some 6mg pills (i had a spare box in my house) to spiralspider so he could do the tapering himself, he was on 9mg).

I am glad you are going better with all that energy, that's actually great!
I don't know nothing about akathisia! but I would say to keep calm and don't get so alarmed :)

Good luck everyone!!
And thanks for the feedback!
 
Stay away from cannabis. I fully recovered from a cannabis induced psychosis in 2011. Then I starten smoking 5 gr cannabis on a daily basis. Then in 2015 I had a second psychotic episode. I thought I was the messiah, the seconden coming of Jesus Christ. Then I was forced to take medication and invega destroyed my Life. How Long will Recovery take. I'm 4 months of now.
None of us know that for sure, Tim32. Unfortunately.
 
Stay away from cannabis. I fully recovered from a cannabis induced psychosis in 2011. Then I starten smoking 5 gr cannabis on a daily basis. Then in 2015 I had a second psychotic episode. I thought I was the messiah, the seconden coming of Jesus Christ. Then I was forced to take medication and invega destroyed my Life. How Long will Recovery take. I'm 4 months of now.

Thanks for sharing your experience Tim. My story is eerily similar to yours.. I am a 26 year old male with no prior diagnosis of mental illness, until I had a manic episode after to much partying, i was using cocaine and Marijuana for 1 month about six months ago. I to also had grandiose delusions that I am here for a higher purpose like a Jesus Christ. I was then hospitalized because I was frightening my family with my behavior. When I was hospitalized i was forced to take invega sustenna after refusing to take the pill form risperidone because I felt like it shut off my brain, literally like i could not speak verbally to people.

I am also now about 4 1/2 months removed from my two injections and i was forced to quit my job, quit school and have been rendered function less ever sense the injections like you. Granted I feel a little bit better sense the first month after the shot but not much.. I used to be able to work out daily and always considered myself to be always pretty athletic. What symptoms are you experiencing after taking this medication? And do you feel like you are making any progress towards a recovery?
 
Alright so,whats up vanilla faces (Borat reference)
*****UPDATE****** Btw its my birthday tomorrow I'm 27 I feel so motivated to become an adult I can't explain it like get a job and all that shit like a full time one..

Anyway as I mentioned earlier on page 43 I believe, I was able to cum and when it came out it was like you know, full. Like a very substantial amount and an improving amount came out (not like pre invega quantity not yet its only been 4 months off the Invega Shots but definitely the quality) and furthermore, the consistency of it had improved it was not runny it was like you know (how do you say this) like pudding or yogurt or hair gel from theres something about Mary. and also when I shot it out i was able to get some distance on it... anyway... you get the point....

so that was on sunday morning... HOWEVER... 2 days later on Tuesday i went back to it and I tried to reproduce the same results... nahhh it was runny again... now again the amount that came out was pretty substantial for only 2 days break since last time... 2 months ago that would have taken me a 5 or 6 day rest period to produce those same results... anyway All I'm trying to say is that its improving... and its not because I was born lucky or anything like that... Like Koz26 suggested to us... its important to remain very active in our recovery.. we gotta do the work.. simple as that...

so this gives me 2 conclusions to draw or at least a working hypothesis...

1. is that like Many of you have suggested to us earlier in these threads, this fat soluble injectable (meaning it binds to your fatty cell and tissue) Invega Sustenna WORKS IN WAVES... it splits in half every time a half life(25-50 days) passes and continues to do so until it just basically dies (the body replaces all of its cells every 7 years I just learned from a doctor)... when I say waves it means the effects of this drug will feel like it wears off and then it will come back... so we still got a ways to go I'd say a lucky man feels recovered from this after 8 months.. and if 2 years later you don't feel right I would say assert your self and your needs formally with a medical healthcare professional that you trust and take it up with him or her......

2. my 2nd working hypothesis about how I came (no pun intended honestly) or stumbled upon this improvement in the symptoms of my side effects (runny weak sperm) was caused by the following:

I Live in L.A. Hollywood, Movie star town, very wild happening city, lots of things to do, one of those things to do that is very popular is go to a ware house party in the downtown district of LA or as they are better known A RAVE. I went to this rave because honestly i wanted to see how DULL i have been made (temporarily I Presume cuz theres no way i coulda done this 4 months ago) by Invega Sustenna.

I got there around 2 am saturday night after we left a bar in Korea town with 2 of my homies... this place had all kinds of shit there... shrooms LSD acid Coke mushrooms X edible weed chocolate rave music everything dude..

Now luckily I didn't engage in any of the heavy duty stuff... but i saw that chocolate and i said FUCK IT i only do it like 2 or 3 times a month i don't care and I NEVER get to see a edible so i pounced on it... bout 25-30 minutes later i started to experience what we would call mild euphoria at a minimum and getting my boogie on if we are calling it what it was... it was awesome i was like energized and feeling the beat my rhythm and dances moves were on point like they used to be (I used to and still do know a couple of break dance moves because my older sisters friends are all like dancers and stuff and they taught me how to get down!)

Anyway nights coming to a close and my friend (of like 6.5 years) is like yo, we need to take one of my friends home (some fucking straggler) I argued with him for like 30 minutes he totally killed my vibe and shit got bad i ended up being a fucking chauffeur for like 2 hours and I felt REALLY taken advantage of so when the MORNING is over i basically talk to my friend and Iam like yo I feel mad disrespected for real yo, we get into a huge argument and out of the blue, so unexpected... i just feel this RUSH of endorphins behind my eyes.. and i just start to cry i mean BALLIN' in tears like you know family funeral status... cried like I've cried 4 or 5 times in my life man...

Now..... theres a lot at play here and this is where this gets interesting because its very relevant to what were all going through cuz its not just the sex side effects guys.. its the emotional numbing too and how much invega sustenna made me forget what type of emotions i am capable of experiencing... like i was crying because i was tired, driving tired, and intoxicated (a motor cycle almost side swiped himself into me so that would of ruined my FUCKING LIFE a lot more than Invega Sustenna) and above all this was being precipitated by a guy who i thought was my friend for 6 years and turns out yo that, he was just using me for a ride the whole time (so thats obviously what we arguing about and why it got so emotional)

But anyway I dropped his bum ass off, i said see ya......... and then I was like yo, I need to get the fuck home... So i get home my dad's already up had his coffee and looking at real estate properties and open houses cuz thats his hobby... my mom is just walking downstairs and is ready to go to church.. she's says... Mick... you don't look well... what happened Mickey what did you do.....

I told her everything and she just told me to rest and promise her that this year Im gonna get my priorities straight and heed a wake up call.... anyway I waited till my mom left and I just said fuck it and let it out... I think all that emotion that weed edible (especially chocolate even w/o the weed is an aphrodisiac if used once in a great while) the staying up all night the crying fest from realizing i wasted my time with someone i thought was my friend was using me and lets not forget the motorcycle on the freeway... caused me so much anxiety... in my mind... it must have mimicked a manic episode...

And when people get manic... they cry have severe high and low points and also become hypersexual.... seeing as how this is about Invega Sustenna and Mental health I wanted to know what you guys thought.... kind of want to open a discussion under the premise of whether a manic episode is possible again once you get the invega shot and i certainly believe that it most DEFINITELY is...

****** Also last thing... after i woke up from my 11-2 nap I saw this hot girl in a commercial and instantly i ran to the computer to rub one more out... and like the RUSH was intense and not much came out but like again it was consistent and full and looked like it did pre invega....

I mention this because I am sure it was the weed chocolate..... NOW I am NOT advocating you go buy and stock up on weed chocolate... quite the opposite infact.... because once your body builds up a tolerance to something its very hard to feel the effect... so if you keep taking it everyday eventually it will lose its euphoria and hence be rendered useless until you decide to come off it and take that break.... that time to take that break IS NOW.... get sober and save the red wine and weed chocolate when you got a special lady in your life again fellas with candles and good music and good lighting...

Anyway sorry that was ALOT to post and I feel so much better now that I got that off my chest...
 
I am 32 years. I live in Holland. Pre invega I used to have a lot of Energy, motivation and pleasure in live.
I used to have an online Store. And I used to sport alot ( boxing and fitness).
After 8 monts of invega shots, I became very depresssed. I have No motivation. No Energy and No More pleasure in Life. Anhedonia. I often wish I was dead. My Memory is not as it used to be and I feel dumb. I also have No spontanious behaviour anymore. I used to sing, cry, and laugh out loud. I have Lost All emotions. I have No pleasure when I orgasm. And libido is Zero.
Now I'm 4,5 months off invega. Everyday still is a struggle. I'm not in in bed All day long like I used to on the drug.
I do cycling, 20 km a day. I play some tennis. Watch some tv. I don't feel much improvement. I force myself to go out of bed. Nothing is spontanious. Since I started invega I smoke alot of cigarretes. A pack a day. I wasn't a smoker before. I also gained 10 kg. But I' ve Lost 5 kg since I'm off. Now I'm 68 kg 1,70 m. I used to have abs. Now I have some fat around the belly. I don't Talk anymore. I'm Just quit when I am around Family and friends. I feel like a zombie. I still have Hope, because I Fully recovered in 2011 from another antipsychotic I had for 6 months. Thanks for your reply.
Hey Tim, in 2011 when you said you fully recovered from another antipsychotic, was it an injection? What kind of antipsychotic was it? It took you 6 months to fully recover in 2011? How long did it take you to fully recover from the other antipsychotic you took for 6 months. Also, was it an injectable?
 
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Hey Tim, in 2011 when you said you fully recovered from another antipsychotic, was it an injection? What kind of antipsychotic was it? It took you 6 months to fully recover in 2011? How long did it take you to fully recover from the other antipsychotic you took for 6 months. Also, was it an injectable?

Yes it was an injection. I had it for 6 month every 2 weeks. I don't know which antipsychotic it was. But I recovered shortly after I was off. Maybe a few months. I don't remember how Long it was. then I had the best years of my Life. Full of joy. And I had the best sex of my Life. So I know it is possible to recover.
 
Yes it was an injection. I had it for 6 month every 2 weeks. I don't know which antipsychotic it was. But I recovered shortly after I was off. Maybe a few months. I don't remember how Long it was. then I had the best years of my Life. Full of joy. And I had the best sex of my Life. So I know it is possible to recover.
@Tim that's great to hear. That gives me hope. I think with this injection it just takes 10x longer to fully recover. Tina3000 in the previous post said she knew a guy that took 3 years to fully recover and a girl 1.5 years to fully recover.... I'm scared but at the same time I believe that the body will eventually heal itself. It's just crazy how long this drug takes to fully get out of the system fully.
 
@Tim that's great to hear. That gives me hope. I think with this injection it just takes 10x longer to fully recover. Tina3000 in the previous post said she knew a guy that took 3 years to fully recover and a girl 1.5 years to fully recover.... I'm scared but at the same time I believe that the body will eventually heal itself. It's just crazy how long this drug takes to fully get out of the system fully.

Yes the Body and Mind will heal. Be patient. I also recovered from 6 months of zyprexa pills in 2005. So I recovered twice from antipsychotics.
 
Week 49 off the poison
That's 7 half lifes, hopefully all this shit is out my system. Just trying to rebuild my life, exercising daily and trying to get back doing my previous hobbies and get back into a normal life style.
Probably 95% recovered, hopefully in another couple of months it will be 100%.
Don't give up people, it gets better with time.
 
Approaching the 9 full months mark. Hoping that I’m nearly the end the ‘effective’ fully off, at least. Hoping.

Itching everywhere, stuffed nose, constantly having to blow the nose, like tons of these tissues littering my area. Bad Constipation, irritability
Like having really bad allergies. And really, itching everywhere, like such an annoyance that it doesn’t stop. Wouldn’t be surprised if it’s like some kind of “septic” like toxic poisoning, like from the constipation.

Also nauseous again, as I was at some key withdrawal times. I end up having to spit saliva in a cup continuously, over and over. Mouth waters with the nausea. Maybe it's trying to get the chemical poison out via the saliva. (Just like out via the snot in the nose, like allergies)

Very sick. I'm surprised to still feel like this at 9 months. This pharmaceutical is a nightmare.
 
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How's everybody else doing?
I'm still doing horrible. It's my 5 month off this posin and I still feel no improvement. I swear to god I don't know why the people who invented Invega Sustenna are still alive... As of right now I still can't get a natural erection, I can't get sexually aroused and I can't cry and run... This is the worst years of my life.. I just want to be normal and run my 10 miles a day... How many miles is anyone able to run? I can't even run a mile and I used to run 10 when I didn't get Invega,
 
I saw this vid and article a while ago and i thought they spoke the absolute, untouched, pure truth:
Article: http://www.antipsychiatry.org/25reason.htm

Video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BhC6hUZJIJ0 a

The whole world should know the malicious truth about psychitry.

This is going to be a very long post so if you choose to ignore/not read it I understand. BUT, if you are trying to decide whether psychiatry and psychiatric medications are good or evil, and are battling any type of mental illness, I hope you will take the time to read this post...

My intial reaction to that video was to post on here that the guy in this video is full oh shit. However, slandering him doesn't do anything beneficial in my opinion. Instead of trying to proves someone wrong through defamation, you should prove them wrong using facts that contradict what they say.

With that in mind, I would like to encourage anyone who is in the fence about whether Psychiatry is malicious/evil or not to simply Google "psychiatric success stories anecdotal." I'm not suggesting to sift through thousands of pages in psychiatric medical journals or look at research studies about the efficacy of psychiatry and psychiatric medications. Clearly, there is an anti-psychiatry sentiment many people on here hold which would dissuade them from believing any factual "research." For this I don't blame you. I remember reading a "research study" claiming that Invega Sustenna only cause fatigue/somnolence/tiredness in around 5% of the people who received the injection. From a pharmacological perspective, when we consider Invega operates by inhibiting/blocking dopamine-the very vehicle by which motivation, enthusiasm and energy flows through our mind and body, this statistics seems inaccurate at best.

Which is why I encourage you to look at some anecdotal evidence from people who benefited from psychiatry. It is my opinion that long-lasting antipsychotic injection should be reserved for ONLY people who genuinely have homicidal ideations and there is a serious threat of them acting on those thoughts. So, to a certain extent, I agree with some of the anti-psychiatry sentiments on here. Your feelings of frustration, anger, sadness and bitterness towards psychiatry are quite valid and you have every right to feel the way you do.

I just ask that you CONSIDER the idea that psychiatry can be a good thing. And for those of you reading along and following this thread from a distance, I hope you will not give up on psychiatry altogether because of this one horrible experience. The reason I say this is that I do suffer from Bipolar Disorder Type 1 with Psychotic features. The diagnosis is subjective because, like the guy in the video said, there are no actual tests that can be done which prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that BP Type 1 is real and that I have it. But what I can tell you is this. I don't think the guy in this video ever experienced true auditory and visual hallucinations or extremely delusional/irrational thoughts that put him in danger.

Why? Because I have experienced all of these and without the assistance of psychiatric medications they would have most likely persisted and ruined my life more than Invega Sustenna ever could. That's because if these delusions and hallucinations persisted, I could very well be dead. During my manic episodes, I thought my dead best friend was communicating with me and telling me that he was still alive and being held captive by gang members in the streets of Pittsburgh. So what did I do? I walked the streets in the ghettos of Pittsburgh during the middle of the night, WITH MY MMA GLOVES ON, ready to fight every single gang banger I encountered until I found my friend Garret...I saw visions such as a sign that said "Don't tread on me" flashing bright yellow lights on Brownsville road in the Carick area of Pittsburgh. That night I took to the streets of Brownsville road with my mma gloves and fight shorts on to find Garret by any means necessary. It was during this manic episode that I was surrounded by five gang members on Brownsville road and began to threaten me. Luckily, the cops drove by and the gang members scattered. I recognize how lucky I was in retrospect, but at the time I was thinking, "Focus on the middle guy and keep an eye on the outliers with your peripheral vision." The guy on my further most left then reached into his waistband and I thought to myself "It's ok. If he pulls out a gun, I'm going to use an inside slip and parry the gun 180degrees towards his chest with my left hand, grab the gun/trigger with my right hand and shoot him in the chest. Then I'll shoot the other four guys in the chest in rapid succession before they have a chance to pull out another gun." So, as he reached into his waistband, I SMILED.

Thankfully, he was only reaching down to pull up his jeans...anti-climactic I know.

After this incident, my roommate contacted my family from Wilkes-barre who then drove out to Pittsburgh to make sure I was okay. I continued to walk the streets in my mma gear once they arrived and flipped out thinking they were in danger. So they called the cops and I agreed to go to Western Psych in the Oakland area of Pittsburgh. Treatment there failed and then let me go while I was still manic. They could not tell I was still delusional, irrational, potentially homicidal and having visual hallucinations. To people who did not know me very well, I seemed very friendly, happy and stable.

Upon being released from Western psych (where I voluntarily admitted myself) , I traveled with my family back to Wilkes-Barre, PA and began to walk the streets of Wilkes-Barre looking for my dead friend Garret. I went to the police station shirtless and with my mma gloves and trunks on to drop of an imaginary criminal in an effort to "prove a point" to whatever gang bangers had Garret that I was not playing around...and that I'd find them and get Garret back to safety no matter what. Recognizing my abnormal behaviors, my sister and my parents asked me to go back to the hospital to make sure I was ok, so I did. They sent me to the ageism Geisinger Psychiatric Hospital in Bloomsburg, PA. During my first few days there, I remember that whenever I watched the news, the anchor or reporter would start off by saying, "The search for Garret continues." After a few days of being administered Abilify and lithium, these auditory hallucinations stopped and the realization that my best friend was actually dead and not alive but in danger sank in.

Once my thoughts cleared and I was thinking logically/rationally again, I felt embarrassed. But more importantly, I thought, "Holy shit! I can't believe I put myself in such dangerous situations."

Without psychiatric medications, I'd probably still be walking the streets in my mma gear looking for my dead best friend. That I'd be in jail for assault or even worse, dead in the streets somewhere. This is not an attempt at dramaticism. This is the harsh truth of how my brain was operating without medication.

THE MAIN POINT I am trying to make is that FOR ME, psychiatric medications were necessary for me to get my life back. A temporary dose of oral antipsychotics and a long-term dose of a mood-stabilizer prevented my manic episodes. Whenever I discontinued my psychiatric meds, I had another manic episode. So I do not believe psychiatry and psychiatric medications are all evil and malicious. For some people, myself included, they have the potential to be both a life-saver and a godsend.
 
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