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Mental Health Coming Off Invega Sustenna (Paliperidone) v.2

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@Tim

I just watched Dr. Breggin's video. I agree that many times people are far too drugged up on psych meds and that having a strong/positive family relationship can make a huge difference in a person's state of mind. In my case, however, I do have a very supportive, caring and loving family. To take it a step further, I also have very caring and loving friend and was meeting with a kind-hearted therapist while I was manic. None of these did anything for stopping my hallucinations or delusions. This "pie in the sky optimism" that mental illness doesn't exist and nobody needs medications to help them cope with their condition would certainly be a dream world to live in. But in my case, nothing worked to treat my psychosis besides antipsychotics and mood stabilizers. I don't like antipsychotics and I think they should only be used in life or death situations. But ALL psychiatrists and ALL psychiatric drugs are not evil and malicious. Furthermore, not ALL mental issues can be safely treated without the assistance of medications at one point or another.

Trust me, I understand why you guys who hate psychiatry as a whole feel the way you do. Invega Sustenna gave me suicidal ideations that never completely went away. I wish I never agreed to receive it and I think, as I said before, it should only be used in life or death circumstances as an absolute LAST resort.

That being said, psychiatry as a whole has helped tons of people, myself included. You're free to feel whatever type of way about it. But posting shit to dissuade people from seeking a possible treatment that could help them is just fucked up. You obviously don't have a legitimate mental illness if you think nobody ever needs medicine and that talk therapy/good family relations can solve all the problems faced by people struggling with a mental illness. I'm not trying to be mean or start a fight. All I'm asking is for people to keep an open-mind and look at psychiatric care from a multifaceted perspective.
 
Lazar said:
I saw this vid and article a while ago and i thought they spoke the absolute, untouched, pure truth:
Article: http://www.antipsychiatry.org/25reason.htm

Video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BhC6hUZJIJ0 a

The whole world should know the malicious truth about psychitry.
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Agreed wholeheartedly with you. there are many others who also can see the truth, however, unfortunately for us we are the minority in comparison to those who can not.

I'm not entirely sure what Koz26 is on about but he certainly does sound like a psychiatrist him/herself, or at the very least, somebody who is pro-psychiatry. In my opinion as a (non-consensual) victim of psychiatric torture, yes, by all means educate yourself with a VARIETY of research articles - if you are that way inclined - but I ask you, would it also be beneficial to first understand the roots of psychiatry? I am not interested in whatever is written in psychiatry's books about their foundations, more-so, I am interested in hearing of the then victims and people on the outside. I found I didn't have to look further than something as trivial as YouTube to find what I was looking for. There are a few lengthy doco's - some of which have over millions of views - which give a recount of psychiatry's history - which to me, was fast accepted as truth.

Sure, there will always be two or more sides to a story. I adopted the anti-psychiatry stance only after I had my first-hand experience with it. Prior to losing my life, I had never given much thought to psychiatry or even "mental illness". It's not something I had encountered in the 20 odd years. It came as a shock to me, how some foreigner whom I had obvious communication difficulties with (it seemed as if English was not his first-born language - yet, he was the one employed by the hospital), could, by miracle, label me in a way which would be permanent & life-long, by simply asking me a short series of extremely odd questions whilst toying with my mind thru his use of body language adjustments in synchronization with his possie.

I understand it may be difficult for some to follow what I am saying, due to the drugs - no doubt, as it is also difficult for me to write.

I'm not here to spark controversy - there could be nothing more pointless. The way I see it, is that we have all been tampered with thru the use of psychiatric drugs. In this way, we each share a common ground. We each are individuals, who come from a variety of backgrounds and experiences. Would it not be beneficial to unite in a way that allows us to recover to a level that is in alignment with our own goals?

I will refrain from sharing any more of my personal truths about psychiatry. I contradict myself to no-end since I was first drugged.

While I feel I lost my life long ago, and am dying at an accelerated rate, I have not yet commit suicide as my desire to return to who I was is greater than the loss I have experienced.

I check this thread mostly every day, some people who actually contribute in a meaningful way are my greatest source of help at the present. Unfortunately I can not yet offer the same. Thankyou, and I'm sure you know who you are.

I was wondering if anybody has tried to clear themselves of the drugs? A detox? To me, it seems like the most logical first step; to eliminate what I do not want inside of me. I agree that exercise might also be great to aid the elimination process, but I am still not yet able to move. I'm interested to hear of what you believe to be good foods to eat, supplements to re-balance myself, or anything else which sort of relates. For those who have come back to let us know about their improvements: can you think of anything specific that you did that helped you?

I dunno, guys. This is the largest active community of people 'Coming off Invega Sustenna' I could find, figured rather than talking about each others dicks all the time - yes, mines fucked too - we could try moving forward as a whole? Maybe I'm a nutcase to you, but the one beauty of the psychiatric drugging scheme, is that I literally do not give a fuck what anyone thinks - even more-so than I used to.

I feel fucked for not contributing and helping, even though I can't even help myself. Wouldn't be surprised if I cop a ban for ranting on like this, so gonna go smoke my 90th cig for the day and then return to some video games. Do wish you all the best & you have my word to return here if I do ever recover.
 
I think Koz has several points we all should consider, you cannot generalize and claim completely Psychiatry is a 100% scam and harm towards people, likewise Medications alone are not proven to be the only effective element in for example getting rid of anxiety and OCD which I have, however it is more of a combination of talk therapy, family support, positive thinking, that help because these will raise your serotonin levels in your brain and so forth, Medication is like a helping hand to climb a step, you have to do the rest, as a matter of fact many people get over depression from talk therapy alone with a good diet and exercise, I was in a similar situation like Koz however I just thought that everyone was against me especially police man, I had deep anxiety and anger, people thought I am paranoid. the most important thing is to think positive, because life has its up or down whether you had this paliperidone injection or not... think about it... People do get depressed but its proven episodic, which means a point in your life, there is no proof ever it is a life long issue, All the best to you all
 
ZombieMode said:
IThis is the largest active community of people 'Coming off Invega Sustenna' I could find, figured rather than talking about each others dicks all the time - yes, mines fucked too - we could try moving forwarding as a whole?
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Sometimes, discussing dicks is the only way we know how to cope.
 
It's not psychiatry that's evil. It's Janssens and Johnson and Johnson. The pharmecticuals that manufacture Invega Sustenna are evil. It's fucked up to say but they know that Invega Sustenna causes permanent damage yet they still keep it on the market. I wish death on Janssens and Johnson and Johnson. I hope that those who said they haven't recovered after a year eventually recover and recover their sex drive..... I'm 5 months off and still have no sex drive and libido. I also can't work out still. I just want to be able to run again.
 
ZombieMode said:
Agreed wholeheartedly with you. there are many others who also can see the truth, however, unfortunately for us we are the minority in comparison to those who can not.

I'm not entirely sure what Koz26 is on about but he certainly does sound like a psychiatrist him/herself, or at the very least, somebody who is pro-psychiatry. In my opinion as a (non-consensual) victim of psychiatric torture, yes, by all means educate yourself with a VARIETY of research articles - if you are that way inclined - but I ask you, would it also be beneficial to first understand the roots of psychiatry? I am not interested in whatever is written in psychiatry's books about their foundations, more-so, I am interested in hearing of the then victims and people on the outside. I found I didn't have to look further than something as trivial as YouTube to find what I was looking for. There are a few lengthy doco's - some of which have over millions of views - which give a recount of psychiatry's history - which to me, was fast accepted as truth.

Sure, there will always be two or more sides to a story. I adopted the anti-psychiatry stance only after I had my first-hand experience with it. Prior to losing my life, I had never given much thought to psychiatry or even "mental illness". It's not something I had encountered in the 20 odd years. It came as a shock to me, how some foreigner whom I had obvious communication difficulties with (it seemed as if English was not his first-born language - yet, he was the one employed by the hospital), could, by miracle, label me in a way which would be permanent & life-long, by simply asking me a short series of extremely odd questions whilst toying with my mind thru his use of body language adjustments in synchronization with his possie.

I understand it may be difficult for some to follow what I am saying, due to the drugs - no doubt, as it is also difficult for me to write.

I'm not here to spark controversy - there could be nothing more pointless. The way I see it, is that we have all been tampered with thru the use of psychiatric drugs. In this way, we each share a common ground. We each are individuals, who come from a variety of backgrounds and experiences. Would it not be beneficial to unite in a way that allows us to recover to a level that is in alignment with our own goals?

I will refrain from sharing any more of my personal truths about psychiatry. I contradict myself to no-end since I was first drugged.

While I feel I lost my life long ago, and am dying at an accelerated rate, I have not yet commit suicide as my desire to return to who I was is greater than the loss I have experienced.

I check this thread mostly every day, some people who actually contribute in a meaningful way are my greatest source of help at the present. Unfortunately I can not yet offer the same. Thankyou, and I'm sure you know who you are.

I was wondering if anybody has tried to clear themselves of the drugs? A detox? To me, it seems like the most logical first step; to eliminate what I do not want inside of me. I agree that exercise might also be great to aid the elimination process, but I am still not yet able to move. I'm interested to hear of what you believe to be good foods to eat, supplements to re-balance myself, or anything else which sort of relates. For those who have come back to let us know about their improvements: can you think of anything specific that you did that helped you?

I dunno, guys. This is the largest active community of people 'Coming off Invega Sustenna' I could find, figured rather than talking about each others dicks all the time - yes, mines fucked too - we could try moving forward as a whole? Maybe I'm a nutcase to you, but the one beauty of the psychiatric drugging scheme, is that I literally do not give a fuck what anyone thinks - even more-so than I used to.

I feel fucked for not contributing and helping, even though I can't even help myself. Wouldn't be surprised if I cop a ban for ranting on like this, so gonna go smoke my 90th cig for the day and then return to some video games. Do wish you all the best & you have my word to return here if I do ever recover.
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It's ok that you're not sure what I'm "on about." It's quite simple really. Invega Sustenna messed up my life, while some other psych meds helped me. The main point being that not all psych meds are bad and psychiatry as a whole isn't all bad. They aren't all good either.

I don't see how you can say I sound like a psychiatrist for having this point of view. I am merely speaking from experience much like yourself. For what it's worth, I'm not a psychiatrist. I'm actually a graduate student in the School of Education at PITT and a professional mixed martial artist. No desire to get involved in the field of psychiatry. I'm only trying to play devils advocate because this thread has thousands upon thousands of views but only a select few contributors in terms of posts. So, there might be people reading along who can benefit from certain psych meds that might be deterred from seeking out treatment cause all they read is, "Momma says, psychiatry is the devil."

-Hopefully the Waterboy reference puts a smile on someone's face
 
@Joey

You ever consider taking up a martial art like Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu? That might be a good outlet for you. And if you don't feel like you can exercise you can still learn new moves and techniques by studying online. I remember when I was injured about two years ago, I just studied Jordan Burrough's videos to work on my wrestling and it helped tremendously. Just a thought. Hope you feel better soon buddy!
 
Mr Ti thanks for mentioning. You send me useful stuff.!

My appointment scheduled for tomorrow has to be postponed due to a relatives death.. I was anxious for that and now I have to wait a little bit more.:\
Of all the side effects invega has on me the better one is definitly diminishing of sex drive. I had a sometimes uncontrollable sex drive. and a lot of sexual toughts . In a perfect scenario I would get off Invega but my sex drive would be the same as it is on invega.
I know some of you guys really care for your libido and maybe its in worst conditions than mine.
I shall say I have been reading even more successful stories as I search through the internet as the one of Mr TI. The problem is the waiting that we feel.
Anyways I'm apprehensive because I'm out of 6mg pills in 5 days and I still have to wait a bit more. I will have to go back to 9mg after I decreased it one month ago and I dont do well with 9mg:::
 
Get off them tablets koz26
In 6 months you'll be chillin on a joint with me and zombie or a beer and a cigar with mister T
 
Tim32

I really hope he means invega sustenna, not invega pills( which take 2-3 days to clear), r u sure he means invega sustenna?
 
Bad Robot said:
Get off them tablets koz26
In 6 months you'll be chillin on a joint with me and zombie or a beer and a cigar with mister T
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I appreciate the advice. Until I can find another way to prevent my manic episodes I don't really feel comfortable coming off my mood stabilizer though. Sucks too cause I hate the idea of taking something that puts a relatively low ceiling on the amount of happiness, excitement and motivation I can feel. But my manic episodes are just too intense and dangerous for me to take the risk.

I've been doing some research on the use of pregnenolone in the treatment/prevention of psychosis and schizophrenia. It looks promising. And preg shouldn't cause the same nasty side effects antipsychotics and mood stabilizers do. It's just a hormone precursor for basically every hormone in the human body. But I'm still on the fence as to whether or not switching from Lamictal to pregnenolone is worth the risk.

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@Koz

i think if you stop mood stabilizers you'll be fine... I still think their is Invega in your system. I honestly believe you can control your manic episodes.
 
Lazar said:
Tim32

I really hope he means invega sustenna, not invega pills( which take 2-3 days to clear), r u sure he means invega sustenna?
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Yes, invega sustenna injection. Here is the text.

"It does get better! I used to be tired, not able to run or do anything. No sexual sex drive, severe anhedonia. Severe suicidal thoughts every day. Not able to get drunk. Sleeping 18 hours a day. Weight gain. I took injections for about 8 months and I stopped taking it about 8 months ago. I AM COMPLETELY BACK TO NORMAL. Don't lose hope. After about 6-8 months you'll be back to normal, i swear it has been the worst time of my life going through this waiting period time wondering if I would ever come back to a normal life. [email protected] if you need to talk. I have been through this, you'll be able to recover."
 
I hope in a couple months we can hear success stories of those that have fully recovered from Invega Sustenna.

whats worse, Invega Sustenna or risperdal consta?
 
@Bad Robot how is your libido and sex drive? Are you able to discharge as much sperm pre Invega? Do you feel any improvement? Do you still think your recovering? How long do you think it takes for it to fully come out of the system? I also saw in your previous post that your exercising. What kind of exercises are you doing.... It's my 5th month off and I still can't run.
 
I just about finished month 8 or about to be. I probably feel how bad robot did. Cuz Ive only been two months behind him and I still cant jog its just not available. too tired to weak. Ciggys and weed make the days great by the beach and still will b. Gotta quit tho cuz. two jobs starting now. if I quit those then maybe Energy will double hopefully along with double the money and then triple when you count the 50% wage increase if it happens. Not that its good for the economy I dunno.. Crazy to think it all used to be and I still hope. Why is there still hope even tho its been so long?? Maybe cause after waitning so long, even the slightest improvements seem so massive, or my brains liquefying back to natural orbs, perhaps healing? Or maybe just the rasta pasta. Its all three actually I know,. But I feel sad when I think that optimism is pretty hard to have faith in. How would those things that make you jog or mating essentials like libido and testosterone ever be over looked? Because people are making money off it. Fuck invega.. Fuck Janssen Johnson and mutherfucking Johnson If they really get away with this as time proceeds, or I truly do feel sad for the future stream of victims and what other experiments for brain violation leads. Yes antipsychotic meds in general all have different risks and harms. But Invega is not even a debate, theres no way it passed the tests, even if it is intended for "extreme cases". Extreme consideration and evaluations should be implemented. Bottom line., even the most violent, least of all insane would and should be given the adverse effects we have when they could be as easily avoided as taking the pill instead. bottom lline.. We could all atleast change that aspect if passed through congress., for the sake of even one innocent person having the most real and yet spiritual handicapping effects of Invega, for so long its not true...If we don't then we have certainly failed the stream of consciousness that flows from universe to human, where accumulatively it lives in every human experience.. It is bigger than just us . Certain theries will show that we would be failing our very gods to not do what we can to stop it. The Map of the observable universe matches the map of the brain, duh. I'm not sure what else todo but just tell you all here so we atleast stay connected and united to stike sumhow someway.
 
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Forced psych meds is a crime against humanity. God gave as dopamine and serotonin to make us happy, to be motivated to build, socialize, exercise, hunt, mate and pretty much every positive aspect their is to life. Psychitists are very well aware of the damage antipsychs cause, but they dont give a rats ass, i constantly told my psych doc about my troubles with the invega but he brushed them off. In the psychirts eyes i am supposdly a violent psychotic who doesnt know right from wrong. Its such a shame that malicious people like psychitrist are left unpunished on this earth despite the colosal harm they do to poeple. If anyone needs to be inducted into an insane asylum, its those psychitrists.
 
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