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Mental Health Coming Off Invega Sustenna (Paliperidone) v.2

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Guys I have done a couple of researches. Here is what I have learned.
Invega changes our way we perceive the world, changes a few chemical in the brain.
There are also things that are impacted through hormonal imbalance, low testosterone.
What invega directly does to us :
- confusion
- impaired memory
- depression
- anxiety
- lack of sociability
- we can't philosophize the way we used to

What hormonal imbalance does (wether it is invega or not):
- low libido
- dry skin
- fatigue
- muscle weakness
- irritability
- depression

Once you don't feel the first symptoms listed there. It could mean that invega almost left your body and that the remaining symptoms are low testosterone levels.
People who received steroids and testosterone shots said there body didn't produce this hormone anymore. They had to wait 2 months before the body produces this hormone again.

I could be right, I could be wrong.

Best regards.
 
Hello Users

I found this thread/forum about a year ago and have been visiting it regularly for about a 4/3 year.

I know that in this very long thread mainly victims of the Neuroleptic: "Sustenna Invega" are active.

But I have suffered cognitive + emotional damage from
the Neuroleptic: "Olanzapine" [Zyprexa ].

--> So I guess I'm the outsider here. --- :(

This thread (in this forum) is the only one I have found in the last 2 years that is still active. All others on the internet have been shut down for years (users who haven't been online for a long time).



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Due to the fact that I have strong concentration disorders since taking the Neuroleptics, I could not register for the last 4/3 year, because I find it difficult to do even the simplest tasks on the PC.

I simply do not have this "overview" any more, which every normal healthy person has.
I can see 100% with my eyes, but the pictures don't sit together properly cognitively when I read something.

(which is necessary to operate normally in different menus on different websites or user interfaces)




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I hope that I will be less desperate when I see that other people on this earth have the same problem as me.

Maybe we can support each other emotionally and hope that we can all get back the "healthy" brain we had before the Neuroleptics.
 
@germanbackyard : welcome to the thread. If you have any question feel free to ask me or any other member. You definitely have the right to be on this thread if you had an IM injection of antipsychotics.
I had 2 injections in May.
 
@zack365

thx :)

but I had a Neuroleptic not as 'Injection'. I had it in "Taking oral Pills" 3 years long. (This is why i wrote "outsider")

We all sitting in same Boat. Damaged by Antagonists, which blocked our postsynaptic Dopamine-Receptors ----- :(
 
@germanbackyard: typically the 4 psych med injections that are similar in the debilitating way people suffer are invega/xeplion, zyprexa/olanzapine, abilify/aripiprazole and haldol/haloperidol. some people have taken the pill form of one of the aforementioned and had negative interactions as well, more rare when that happens but it does.

i took zyprexa at very high doses (100+ mg) for a couple years, i had the opposite experience you have, i've been rather fortunate in using psych meds than most people until invega/xeplion. though during my time back then and up until now i've met others who suffer from it in pill form like you do. hence part of why we say here that we're all different.

we've had people in this thread over the years on occasion who suffer from other psych meds, this is for invega/xeplion but we have welcomed them here on occasion as well. mostly it has been from other injections. your not the first one for the pill form though. i never took that injection myself but there have been about 3 on the injection here in the past and one or two on the pill form. i do remember one of them being Brandi81.

there are two other threads in the mental health forum here where she and other people have posted about what they go through with zyprexa. you can look them up for some reference as well, maybe even PM them. my laptop suffered the blue screen of death yesterday and i had to start from scratch but if you want later today i can see what i backed up before this happened.

welcome to the thread. what you are experiencing is not unheard of. it does get better. (from one outsider to another ;))

how about you start by listing what your experiencing for not only us and your benefit but in case someone else reads this in the future, for posterity reasons.
 
my (short) story:



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•Diagnosis: Psychosis

In my acute psychosis, I had severe anxiety disorders at home.
Besides, my emotions (all: negative + positive) and my cognitive speed were very strong (maybe: 130 % than normal)

-exactly the opposite as I am now (caused by Zyprexa)-

I laying 1 one year with psychosis in bed. (Only stand up 1x time a day, to drink and eat, but without TV, PC, Newspaper, Communication, ...)



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•Medication: Zyprexa

Then I was admitted to hospital (with Court order), because I was in delusions
(only concentrated in special things) and only drank and ate irregularly.

They the gave me another Court Order and I had to take "Zyprexa".

After 2 weeks i lost all my Emotions, Senses, and Concentration-Speed ( maybe 10% of 100% )



After some month in hospital I was allowed to return home.

then I lay at home for two more years just in bed without doing anything on the day.

But i was in a similar bad situation as before "Zyprexa" (where i still had the psychosis).
Although I took Zyprexa + the antidepressant "Setralin" every day,
I found the situation even worse than without Neuroleptic because during my psychosis, where I had not yet taken "Zyprexa", I at least still had strong human emotions and could think very fast (and think eloquently).



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•Stop: Interrupt taking Zyprexa + Sertralin

then I've decided to stop taking Zyprexa + Sertraline (from one day to other)


Then I got into this dilemma that lasts to <today>.

I thought, if i stop Zyprexa, the bad Symptoms go away., which I have since taking.
But, No: I'VE JUST KEPT ALL THE DAMAGE-SYMPTOMS TO TODAY. (I have them now since 2,5 Years, without taking any Medicaments)



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•Try to rehab: Try to get my old brain back

Now i tried many different substances (medicines, nootropics, vitamins, ...) since maybe 2 years. But nothing has helped so far.

-About 40x different materials, over 700€ spent-

(I'm very desperate, maybe never to get my born-given brain back again)


LIKE THIS:
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It's been 9 months after my only and last 2 Invega shots. I am having problems with my girlfriend due to this shit. I have good days and bad days, but unfortunately I have way more bad days than good days. I am so happy for the people that fully recovered from this poision. I don't see the day when I get to that point. To be honest this experience looks forever, but I keep fighting even that every step that am taking forward looks even harder, this is the reason why this seems impossible.


The lack of energy and lethargy is killing me. Do anyone knows what can help?


I can truly said no matter how hard this experience looks like if other fully recovered, we the ones that still suffering from this crap we can fully recover as well. Sometimes I think life it's unfair but I guess everything happens for a reason, I do believe in God, I do believe in faith.


I know how tough it's.

You all are in my prayers :)
 
@I_Want_To_Recover I'm sorry about your problems with your girlfriend. I have a rough time too. The inability to argument on an intellectual level is driving me insane right now. I cannot defend myself like that and I won't accept this for a long time. I used to be a pro at making reasonable arguments and I just can't accept this. It has to get better. We have to recover. Just be careful at what you put into your mouth, trust in the natural and spiritual way of healing. Thanks for the prayers
 
Day 190

My mood is almost normal. My intellectual functions are almost back as well.
Now waiting for my testosterone to go back to normal.

@I_Want_To_Recover : I know it is tough. If you can exercise, I advise you to do so. Exercising in my experience makes me feel better on the long term and I believe it makes recovery shorter. I believe in God as well. Now more than before especially because my girlfriend is a woman of God. I am lucky to have her now.
If you saw my post with all the recovery timeframes from 29 people on this thread I collected. Then you know, the average healing time for people who had 1 to 4 shots is 11 months.
 
@Empty1128

-L-Dopa
-Cocaine
-Calcium-Channel-Blocker
-Potassium-Channel-Opener
-Cerebrolysin
-Cortexin
-Cannabidiol
-Ketamine
-Ergot alkaloids
-etc.

Yes, on my "Some Stuffs which I have not yet tried out, but want to do in future" - List
is also Cerebrolysin.


But very difficult, if no doctor wants to help us.
I guess you have the same problems, with stupid doctors, which just always & always
repeat the same phrases: "No that are just the Negative-Symptoms..." & "Neuroleptics are completely harmless, they never damaged brains in history" and other crap.


And then we can't even defend ourselves with eloquent language and valid arguments. Because our language skills are so run
down from the blocked dopamine system that we sound like a naive 8-year-old child when we talk.


it's a vicious circle.

*Hell*
 
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Rosi71 said:
Are there people, who l?st their emotions forever?
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Yep Rosi71. My emotions are GONE they won't be coming back sadly for me. which is sad. Oh well. At least I still have my family and my partner (Women) of 10 years and a full time job and earning the evil thing called (Money). So i don't care anymore about it fuuck it. In the next life I will know don't TOUCH APs.
 
Is it me or has this thread become very negative? I just wanna tell you guys to never lose hope. There are people that blame everything on Invega and are on other medication that cause similar problems or don't let the brain return to its natural homeostasis. Nothing lasts forever. There are people who just don't care about their health and eat whatever, drink whatever, taker other shit and experiment with stuff that is damaging. You never know the whole story and there are things that people don't tell because it's to personal. So please don't get discouraged. Keep holding on. For some it may even take more than 2 years. I have seen people taking all kinds of psych drugs and recover after years. But they do recover as well. Remember to take care of yourself and keep up a healthy lifestyle instead of a "fuck it" attitude. People giving up after months and saying, recovery doesn't happen is not something you wanna say. It's a long process and it takes at least a year. So stay patient and don't try to force recovery and stop messing up the brain even further with other substances. This is not how this works.
 
My Journey to be off Invega starts now

I just got back from talking to the psychiatrist about getting off invega and although he went against it and only wanted to lower the dose he respected my wish to quit cold turkey. My last shot was on November 8th so its been about a month. I?ve been reading up on niacin and its healing of pyschosis and bipolar. I will talk to my mom about buying some pills. I hope this works, God willing.
 
Yeshuah said:
Is it me or has this thread become very negative? I just wanna tell you guys to never lose hope. There are people that blame everything on Invega and are on other medication that cause similar problems or don't let the brain return to its natural homeostasis. Nothing lasts forever. There are people who just don't care about their health and eat whatever, drink whatever, taker other shit and experiment with stuff that is damaging. You never know the whole story and there are things that people don't tell because it's to personal. So please don't get discouraged. Keep holding on. For some it may even take more than 2 years. I have seen people taking all kinds of psych drugs and recover after years. But they do recover as well. Remember to take care of yourself and keep up a healthy lifestyle instead of a "fuck it" attitude. People giving up after months and saying, recovery doesn't happen is not something you wanna say. It's a long process and it takes at least a year. So stay patient and don't try to force recovery and stop messing up the brain even further with other substances. This is not how this works.
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@Yeshuah. Not i'm not been negative at all mate. I'm telling it how it is. I'm not on any medication at all now for the past 2 months now. I eat fairly good. I don't drink alcohol or do drugs. -This website might be the *internet* but what do I have to lose telling bullshitting. I'm stating facts. If you don't want to believe me that's fine. I wont get my emotions back and I wont fully heal. it's a FACT it's set nearly in stone mate. I'm not wasting my life hoping it will happen. The old say go's *If it's to good to be true - it most likely is.* I hope most of you fully heal but it's not going to happen for me.
 
@all. Who would like me to record a video of me and uploading it to youtube and telling the story of me going though the whole invega IM recovery? Happy to to this. :)
 
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@all. Who would like me to record a video of me and uploading it to youtube and telling the story of me going though the whole invega IM recovery? Happy to to this. :)


Please of course, if you speak slowly and clear englisch, then we can translate it with integrated Youtube-Translator.
Every story more, which reaches the public and enlightened about this world disaster, is a good one.
 
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