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Mental Health Coming off Invega (Paliperidone, Xeplion) injections v. 7.0

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CrimsonThornX said:
I gained a stupidly large amount of weight within the span of 4 to 5 months after the injection, since I went from a healthy 183 for my height of just over 6 feet to a whole freaking 264 pounds at it's worst which is insane. I believe there's many causes for it but is still entirely due to Invega one way or another.

For one, Invega itself alters the metabolism and causes a hormone imbalance, hence why most people gain some weight on it. I feel as if it shut down the part of my brain that determines when I'm full initially, because I'd never feel satisfied regardless of how much I ate. I also got no pleasure/enjoyment from anything at first aside from eating, which I started doing excessively as it's the only thing that gave me some kind of relief at first. And lastly, I couldn't sleep for even a single minute for literally months, so that must've seriously affected my metabolism as well.

Last time I weighed myself I lost over 10 pounds which was like a month ago, and while I haven't weighed myself again recently, a few people have mentioned that I do look increasingly visibly thinner. It sucks that I went from wearing medium shirts to XL ones for now, but hopefully I'll reach that point again without looking too disfigured from it.

Oh yeah forgot to mention that exactly 5 months off I started going to the gym again and started being on a calorie deficit again.
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I agree invega destroys our metabolism and I believe the increase in prolactin makes pur bodies think its pregnant. I truly hope that we get our bodies back. I'm trying anothet stat that gets my body back and better but damn its gonna take a lot of time and work.
 
HellFromPsychMeds said:
emotional mentality HAS a cognitive effect on you! Yes, these things actually do help route your grey matter again.
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<edited out unnecessary comment - SMod> So you are saying what we believe has a cognitive effect? This invega poison doesn't only cause cognitive issues but many more.
I don't believe or not believe in recovery, I'm neutral and going with an mindset "we will see what happens".
 
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t_xeplionhell said:
So you are saying what we believe has a cognitive effect? This invega poison doesn't only cause cognitive issues but many more.
I don't believe or not believe in recovery, I'm neutral and going with an mindset "we will see what happens".
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It's really up to you. If you feel neutral works, go with it. Your mindset does form the increase of neural pathways and connectivity to that normality as the pathway is utilised more.

You're right, cognitive issues are case by case. I did say that once but despite what direction you take here there will always be a complaint from some tool trying to swing absolute compass mechanics.

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No idea why I use Quora or signed up for emails in the first place but I recieved one in particular that I found so interesting I just simply couldn't ignore.

So some user named Timothy Fox asked: "Why do psychiatrists tend to discount the overwhelming evidence that antidepressants are harmful to their patients over time?"

The response from a Psychiatrist, Alan Koenigsberg, was: "Because I am simply not aware of what you are referring to as “overwhelming evidence that antidepressants are harmful to their patients over time.”

"In fact, my reading of the medical literature is exactly the opposite. The medical literature indicates that the overwhelming evidence is that there are not long term negative or harmful effects, and in fact, the medications actually influence neurotransmitters that help heal the brain."

"The evidence is unequivocal that stopping the medications in patients with chronic depression actually causes shrinkage of the hippocampus to the point where later treatment is not effective."

"So my reading of the literature, as well as my clinical experience, as well as that of my colleagues, is the opposite of what you purport."

So to begin, this of course is specifically referring to antidepressants as opposed to antipsychotics, however both still have a very high probability of causing devastating long-term or even permanent damage. What I do know is that for one, I'm not even slightly suprised or shocked to hear such a response from a psychiatrist, it's quite typical from my experience as quite literally every psychiatrist I've spoken to prior tried to support the same type of claim, strongly suggesting it's has greatly benefitted ALL of their clients, with ABSOLUTELY no consequences whatsoever.

The most recent one I spoke to even went as far as to boldly claim that every single side effect I was currently experiencing and have developed since has absolutely no correlation to the fact that I took Invega whatsoever. He then had the audacity to say that instead, every single supposed side effect I believed to be caused by Invega was in reality, a result of me suddenly experiencing psychosis, regardless of how much I attempted to explain that I've never experienced it prior, nor has it ever occurred within family or relatives even once. Throughout my life, I've only been diagnosed with two "mental illnesses, those being autism and general anxiety. And I know for an absolute fact that neither, not even psychosis, is even SLIGHTLY capable of causing such severe, such harmful, such unbearable side effects, not even close.

If what my last psychiatrist so confidently claimed was true, then by that logic, I would've already been suffering from anhedonia, akathisia, a poor metabolism, to be fair I have hypothyroidism but was still capable of loosing weight relatively easily, sexual issues, not even sure how that would work prior to puberty but I won't even ask, cognitive issues, despite having quicker, sharper, and more complex thinking abilites beforehand, and much more. On an unrelated side note, I feel the complete opposite towards my primary care doctor as she acknowledges all of my side effects were directly from Invega.

And finally, after everything I've personally come to learn, have experienced, and have seen from other's experiences, that I completely understand people's frustrations, including mine, from the consequences of taking certain meds, and the psychiatrists that perscribe them in the first place, seemingly unaware and oblivious as to how much harm they're really capable of doing, despite the overwhelming and clear amount of evidence supporting the exact opposite of what they believe. Now I completely understand why there's such thing as anti-psychiatry movements as well, I don't blame others at this point at all, it's completely understandable and justifiable in my opinion.

( I will say though, despite the fact that the grand majority of people do experience negative side effects from such medications, like myself, there are still a few that actually do benefit from them, and even require them to stabilize themselves and function properly, good for them I guess. )

Sorry for the very long response lol, I had no intentions at all to do this but when I noticed this in one if my e-mails it really pissed me off. 🤣
 
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HellFromPsychMeds said:
If you feel neutral works, go with it.
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I have made a conclusion that mindset doesn't speed up or slow down recovery since when I had positive mindset it did nothing, when I had negative one, same result.

At least I'm qualified to say this from me being 100 weeks off the Invega poison, still not recovered. New pathways can not be created efficiently if receptors are still being recycled/repaired. While Invega is still in the brain getting dissembled by metabolism, it will slow down pathways' creation because of excess lack of available space for new pathways and receptors to be formed.
 
Sexual function 50% still taking 1 mg risperidone after 9 injections of xeplion , last injection 19 march , losing 2 kg in three months, it's get better soon don't worry
 
Checking back in since saturday. I had a great night. Met a girl. Going out again next weekend. Been keeping busy. Did I miss anything? Hope everyone is hanging on
 
Baddream said:
Checking back in since saturday. I had a great night. Met a girl. Going out again next weekend. Been keeping busy. Did I miss anything? Hope everyone is hanging on
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it sounds like you’re functional and close to recovery. I Don’t want to speak for you, but are you close to healing?
 
Invegaishell said:
it sounds like you’re functional and close to recovery. I Don’t want to speak for you, but are you close to healing?
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I must say these last few days I’ve been feeling good. Mostly putting in OT at work. I wouldn’t say there has been a sudden change, but I feel like I’m moving in a positive direction. There’s been improvements in most aspects. But I have had to push myself beyond my comfort zone. Time still moves slow when I’m home by myself. But definitely feel better than before. Thank you for asking, I appreciate the kind words 😊.
 
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@Merek really hope you made it through the storm and decided not to return here. I’m 19 and would love to talk to you about recovery as you were the same age with the same issues. I had 6 injections am any estimate on how long of a recovery in in for? I’m 2 months and 1 week off and the torture is real. I just want the real me back.
 
I just made a sudden realization that's most likely what contributed to me getting injected with Invega in the first place. I was actually taking Risperidone for a few years during my childhood, up until my pre-teens, until I refused to continue doing so. Then at some point later I was perscribed antidepressants like sertraline and lexapro/escitalopram, the second one I never bothered taking however. On top of that I was also given hydroxizine more recently, but in this case it was specifically done so for insomnia. Jesus christ man, I've been drugged up the majority of my life, I'm convinced meds like Risperidone ( basically also Invega, but in pills ), permanently affected my development somehow, and most likely have permanent damage from Invega too. Well I suppose it's better to stop late then never I suppose. 🤷‍♂️

( Oh yeah forgot to mention that I was taking Abilify pills/injections too before Invega, yikes... )
 
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