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Mental Health Coming off Invega (paliperidone) injections, v 5.0

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Is metabolism a factor in how quickly one recovers from invega?
My metabolism is super fast and last time I checked, I have 5.2% body fat, does it mean that my elimination rate of invega will be quick?
 
Masterp423 said:
Damn 5.2% body fat? You must be diced to the fucking socks dude
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I'm very skinny yes.
I used to workout a lot before the injections, you could see my abs sticking out.
Now I have a small belly and puffy cheeks due to the fucking injections.
 
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UnluckyXeplion said:
Is metabolism a factor in how quickly one recovers from invega?
My metabolism is super fast and last time I checked, I have 5.2% body fat, does it mean that my elimination rate of invega will be quick?
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I usualy have body fat of around 5-8%. Right now it's under 5%.
 
Dreeery said:
yes but it's still bad it blocks dopamine a lott
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I study neurochemistry, biochemistry, chemistry and genetics.
Invega(Paliperidone) deforms and blocks protein receptors of dopamine/hestamine/adrenaline/serotonine/endorphine and also other recepors which aren't listed because it affects them less. Deformed receptors will have much lower efficiency and can take time to be replaced.It makes your metabolism slower and also your glands will be affected because dopamine(and some other stuff which it blocks) is used in regulating colon and small intestine, heart muscles and pancreas. Because of that It can cause pain in pancreas area, stomach pain(small intestine is misdisgesting food because of less regulation from brain), chest pain (because of thinus and pancreas issues), it can also cause you go to pee very often because your liver is working in overdrive + your colon and bladder is not regulated properly by brain - because of that you can also get constipation. Your heart beat can get arythmic. You can get thyroid problems or adrenal gland problems which will increase your anger but invega would block those receptors responsible for adrenaline (you wont feel it) but your body would still feel it and that can cause urge to move. It causes other types of damage too.

Humans have different sizes of neurons and synapses, and different brain structures - this is reason why paliperidone can't reach some parts of brain for some people (and it is less effective on them - but paliperidone being non effective and not causing severe anhedonia is almost non existant) or when it causes passouts.


(This site shows lot of mechanism-s of action from Invega oral but not all of them):

Paliperidone: Uses, Interactions, Mechanism of Action | DrugBank Online

Paliperidone is an atypical antipsychotic used in the treatment of schizophrenia and other schizoaffective or delusional disorders.
go.drugbank.com go.drugbank.com

Paliperidone effects on glands, digestive systems, heart, pancreas, liver and bladder are not acceptable and it is one of reasons for it to be banned.
Protein deforming is serious problem and such mechanisms of action from any drug should be banned.
Paliperidone has more than enough reasons to be removed and banned from market or at least removed and tested on healthy humans (which never had psyhosis, depression or mania) to see effects of it on human brain, glands, brain regulation of organs. Testing needs to be at least year long because of seriousness of the drug. Testing on mices and animals is not enough since they can't give proper response and their organism and metabolism is different + we have much more advanced and different brain. Mice who get paliperidone tried to starve to death.

People also need to be educated that anhedonia is not equal to depression. There are lot of people who say they are depressed when they take Invega and that they get anorgasmia (and because of that it is considered depressant drug but nobody talks about anhedonia which can be cause of depression and severe anhedonia is caused by Invega - one of most serious side-effects which should be on TOP of side-effects and not somewhere where nobody will find it) and lot of people consider depression is connected with saddness and its value is lessened because people consider that depression is mentaly induced while severe anhedonia can not be induced mentaly. This is why I never use depression as word alone but rather words like absence of emotion, absence of feeling experience, absence of reactions to stuff, etc - those stuff are more specific. Invega induced anhedonia and saddness until saddness is blocked too and turns into desperation which can look like saddness.
 
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OLDTIDEN said:
Congratulations on the job. Sounds like you are in for it.
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Thanks, I'm probably just going to try to keep this job first before I think about getting a second part time one. I haven't really done shit after work all week, it kind of wears you down. I'll try to study programming or do some other stuff too.
 
Dre87 said:
Thanks, I'm probably just going to try to keep this job first before I think about getting a second part time one. I haven't really done shit after work all week, it kind of wears you down. I'll try to study programming or do some other stuff too.
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I was studying programming before the injections, it was quite easy and fun. I could actually concentrate and immerse myself into it. Now it seems impossible to study.
I would like to go back to it, it will be a great way to spend my free time.
 
OLDTIDEN said:
I lost my abs too because of the injections. How are your dreams?
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I dream from time to time, not every night.
I remember my dreams when I wake up sometimes if that's what you meant to ask.
I don't get lucid dreams since the injections, and I also can't fall asleep easily like I did before, which sucks.
 
UnluckyXeplion said:
I dream from time to time, not every night.
I remember my dreams when I wake up sometimes if that's what you meant to ask.
I don't get lucid dreams since the injections, and I also can't fall asleep easily like I did before, which sucks.
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Good that you dream from time to time. I dream every night. It is a parallel world.
 
OLDTIDEN said:
Good that you dream from time to time. I dream every night. It is a parallel world.
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I used to get sleep paralysis quite a lot actually. In one of them, an entity tried to grab me during the dream and when I woke up, I could feel the areas where he held me, like after someone touched you kind of feeling. Was a weird experience.
 
Kaatrina said:
For me it was 1.5 - 2 years to feel fully recovered. I had a psychotic relapse 14 months off. If you are 80 days off I think that soon you will feel some relief on your anhedonia. I felt suicidal on invega too. Keep hanging in there
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Hey Kaatrina, did you take St. John Wort during your recovery? do you think it helps with recovery?
 
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UnluckyXeplion said:
Hey Kaatrina, did you take St. John Wort during your recovery? do you think it helps with recovery?
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I did not take St. Johns Wort. The only thing I took was some magnesium. I don't know if St. Johns wort is helpful. I think if it helps you feel good about recovery, then there's a good reason to take it. I think working out helped me more than supplements.
 
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