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[Combo Sub Thread] MDMA and Stimulants - Meth and adderall and amphet... I'm tweakin

In general, mixing stimulants is less safe than taking them individually. Meth, speed, and caffeine can all exacerbate the neurotoxic effects of MDMA.
 
MDMA and a couple of redbulls or caffeine pills does the trick for me. Don't go overboard with the caffeine though
 
mixing speed and mdma why do so many look down on it in here ?

hello all i was just wondering as to why so many of you in here get all uppity about the idea of mixing a stimulant like speed with mdma .

i've found it the best way to do this yet people look at me when i say about like i've got 2 heads for some reason i always thought it was common amongst mdma heads to do this i've even had replys of wtf i've never heard of it so any ideas people .

me i love getting a sledging type pill and mixing it with a really good dose of phet .

and yes i know some of the replies i get are to do with harm reduction .

sorry if i sound bitchy i'm not being just wondering :)
 
I think most of the ecstasy pills I took before had speed in it.. I actually liked it better coz it made me dance on the dance floor than just being lazy and sitting lol
 
foolsgold said:
and yes i know some of the replies i get are to do with harm reduction .
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Seems like you've answered your own question. Mixing amphetamine with MDMA exacerbates the neurotoxic effects of both, which means an unpleasant comedown and longer wait times between rolls.
 
i really only added that bit to cover that base more than answer the question it really seems like a taboo with most of the e heads iv spoken to bit like how we speed freaks ain't liked at raves for some reason purest mdma fiends can't stand base heads still dancing round the bass durms at 4am on day 3
 
This thread:
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/660304-Is-it-possible-to-safely-combine-amphetamines-with-mdma


has an extreme amount of information on the subject. I too used to enjoy the combination, but after a night of meth and MDMA and LSD fried the FUCK out of my brain, I decided never to do that again. Well, it's actually been over a year and a half since that awful night.. !! So, I'm trying the combo again in a little while.


NO METH That's the most important part... stick with amphetamine (phet), meth will FUCK YOU UP.





The combo is extremely neurotoxic though, it could be said to be the MOST damaging of any combo... except for maybe PMA and meth, but that's not commonly combined at all. I recommend NO ONE do it.. unless you know VERY well what you're getting into.


Keep the doses on the speed very LOW, the smaller the better. 15mg of pure amphetamine would be more than plenty, a tiny bit is all you need to keep you up and dancing all night. The more you take, the more dopamine that is released which in turn will increase free-radical oxidation which has been shown to be a great contributor to the damage accrued from MDMA over time.

Take a nice LONG break after, if you do plan on doing this. 45 days is the minimum, I say. 60-90 days should REALLY be the goal after such a harsh combo.








Also, the reason I don't (really) do it anymore.... it kills the love. It turns a roll where I'm running around giving people hugs and telling them how much I love them, to running around trying to find some more pills because I just dropped my last one and all I want to do is feel amazing.


Say no to meth, kiddies....
 
the problem is not with mixing "speed" and MDMA. the problem comes when I am buying MDMA and there is speed already in it. if I want to mix speed and MDMA I will buy speed and MDMA and mix them myself.

I don't want cut product wether it be speed or MDMA or otherwise.
 
A lot of MDMA and ecstasy comes with speed already in it.
Meth+MDMA just increase the chances of possible problems. It's not like it's the worst combination, there is much worse out there, but I don't really feel the need to mix either of them. They are great individually.
 
I didnt try the speed combo my previous rolls afterall, but still I want to do it next time.
I have a few more questions:
-If I normally take about 160mg of MDMA crystal, when I add a little amp (10mg) or 4-fa (25-30mg), can I keep the dose mdma the same?
-What will the amp do to the come-up ? With MDMA only, I have a slow gradual come-up to the peak, however, when speed is added, does it hit harder (like the instant come-ups) or slower?

And finally: When you consider the following parts of the MDMA experience: body high (the orgasmic warm 'glowing' feeling and tingles all over), euphoria (rave setting), music appreciation, psychedelic headspace (intensified colors, hallucinations), empathy and head rushes. What does the amp (in small amounts) do to all these parts of the experience compared to pure MDMA?
 
It couldn't hurt to stay at 160 mg of MDMA (although that's a pretty damn high dose). Though, to be on the safe side, I'd recommend bringing the dose down a bit since you haven't tried the combo. My guess is that it will hit harder, giving you a more abrupt come up (since you're adding more of a stimulant effect).

I've always heard that amp reduces the empathy one feels on MDMA, but as for reducing any other effects? I think it'll be minimal.

Maybe try an MDMA + MDA combo? There's much discussion on BL about it.

Post an update when you try. I'd like to hear how it goes. Good luck and stay safe.
 
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foolsgold said:
hello all i was just wondering as to why so many of you in here get all uppity about the idea of mixing a stimulant like speed with mdma .

i've found it the best way to do this yet people look at me when i say about like i've got 2 heads for some reason i always thought it was common amongst mdma heads to do this i've even had replys of wtf i've never heard of it so any ideas people .

me i love getting a sledging type pill and mixing it with a really good dose of phet .

and yes i know some of the replies i get are to do with harm reduction .

sorry if i sound bitchy i'm not being just wondering :)
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I personally figured out the dangers first hand. Vasoconstriction is a big concern that can be serious and deadly if you take too much amphetamine and other stimulants can expedite those effects.
 
NorthernLight said:
It couldn't hurt to stay at 160 mg of MDMA (although that's a pretty damn high dose). Though, to be on the safe side, I'd recommend bringing the dose down a bit since you haven't tried the combo. My guess is that it will hit harder, giving you a more abrupt come up (since you're adding more of a stimulant effect).

I've always heard that amp reduces the empathy one feels on MDMA, but as for reducing any other effects? I think it'll be minimal.

Maybe try an MDMA + MDA combo? There's much discussion on BL about it.

Post an update when you try. I'd like to hear how it goes. Good luck and stay safe.
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From what I know, MDA is more uppy/euphoric then MDMA, it makes you agitated and excited and want to dance around. Although, I think since they both add up to each other, you can easily get floored from combining the two.

I think speed+MDMA would make you last longer than MDA+MDMA, but for sure, the double MDxx would be a much more better high.
 
MDMA/B2 combo, B2 cancels MD? Affects MD Tolerance?

Hi all

On Saturday evening, me and some friends had a bag of B2/MDMA mixed (stupidly mixed, I know it was a bad idea, I know)

Unfortunately I missed the meow meow craze and didn't realise these two wouldn't go together well at all.

I didn't seem to get any MD effects at all, all of what I experienced seemed to be dopamine heavy (lip licking, eyes wide open etc.)

Now, there was definitely MDMA in the bag, if MDMA is consumed but the effects are cancelled out by another substance, does it still affect your MDMA tolerance? i.e. even though I consumed the substance the effects still happened except the other substance's effects overpowered MDMAs, does that make sense?

Before that night I hadn't taken any MDMA for about a month (very weak pills too)

Now, in a fortnights time i'm planning to take some MDMA powder (just MDMA powder), I've been taking 100MG 5-HTP daily just to be on the safe side.

Can anyone please give me some advice on what my tolerance will be like? Any helpful comments will be much appreciated.
 
Folley B2 isn't Butylone. B2 is a popular new RC it would seem that has very limited information which has been released.

It's being claimed the new "Meow Meow" and was pretty similar to Coke.

I just want to know if a dopamine reuptake inhibitor cancels out a seratonin one like MD (literally completely felt no euphoria, no MDMA like rush whatsoever) will it affect my tolerance for just MDMA.

Mixing isn't cool kids. Really is a waste of your health/money/experience
 
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