Cold injection

[narutokun]

Anyone injects their solutions in room temperature instead of heating?
Can large amounts of solution ~10mL non heated cause any harm?

 

[SPUNK]

I have done it before- a couple times I shot up some heroin without heat b/c I didnt have a lighter with me. I had to stir it up really good and it worked decently, but i still DEFINITELY prefer to heat it until right before the water starts to boil.

But also obviously any ampule (like valium, ketamine, morphine injectable ampules) would be injected at room temp. or even at a cooled temp. because they dont require heating. Cocaine also doesnt require heating when prepping a shot.

If you dont mind me asking, what are you injecting that is a 10mL liquid or requires 10mL of water and what type of needle are you using?

 

[narutokun]

^Midazolam pills 15mg/pill 10mL will help me get the most midazolam out of them. I always inject them cold. 26gs.

 

[SPUNK]

Oh ok.... I don't mean to detract from your topic, but how is the high? I've never injected benzo's in pill form, but I think I'll probably try it because im getting 50 valiums and 50 xanax's soon. I've had IV Versed when I had two fingertips chopped off and it was utterly amazing, much stronger than the one time I got ahold of one Diazepam ampule.

But anyways, I almost dont understand your question. Midazolam, and the other drugs that i mentioned in my previous thread, do not require heating, so why heat? It seems like the only drugs that should be heated are ones that require it in order to completely dissolve... am i missing something?

 

[phr]

If what you're shootin' dissolves easily(coke, heroin hcl), you don't need heat. It's a myth that heatin' will destroy all of the bacteria.

 

[Makaveli69]

I have never heated up coke any time I shot it and have never had a problem, id always heat heroin though but even when speedballing id heat the dope first then through in the coke and stir it up real quick.

I can't say about midazolam though I don't shoot pills.

 

[thugpassion]

I knew a guy that never cooked his herion(I always do). He only did it though because he got introduced to it in prison. You dont have to heat crystal or cocaine shots.

 

[johnnyb420]

only the -lam benzo's are worth shooting it is impracticle shooting diaz or xanax, there are ways to shoot them it is just not worth it at all

 

[Arsteraad]

If what you're shootin' dissolves easily(coke, heroin hcl), you don't need heat. It's a myth that heatin' will destroy all of the bacteria.

i agree. Heat should only be applied in norder to facilitate dissolution. The dope i get, although good and cheap, often REQUIRES heat in order to dissolve, i.e. stirring is not enough and the dope will simply float at the top of the solution.
But when heat is not necessary, it should not be used, as you may evaporate a significant ammount of your product.

 

[Arsteraad]

only the -lam benzo's are worth shooting it is impracticle shooting diaz or xanax, there are ways to shoot them it is just not worth it at all

i thought xanax WAS a -lam benzo (Alprazolam)

 

[The Young Geezer]

I always backloaded my heroin and midazolam (used another syringe filled with sterile cottons and cffe filters), then I used a micron filter, though sometimes I didn´t. I usually heated the H for about 10 secs, bt never heated the midazoalam (I had ampules, but mostly used dormicum 15mg pills), for the midazolam I filtered twice and used about 1,7ml of a 2ml syringe to inject 15mg, with heroin t was easier, a ggood ole´terumo .29 1ml 1 1/12¨did the trick...Though I dont reccomend injectin anything, I quit IV used about 3 months ago.....aI Injected so much dormicum pills and bpe daily in my arms and legs (I even shaved my legs to be able to see the veins), now I have no visible visibe veins in any part of my body, except the jugular.....never fucked up there, but my median cubital in my right elbow is so fucked up I think it´ll never heal, so be very careful....I have a shitload of morphine pills now, they aresmall as fuck, and there´s a 24hours pharmacy 1 block from here....but I swore to never IV again (unless it´s an ampoule of a rarity), and I´d love to go an buy syringes ad bang morphine all night long, but that phase is over, be very caredul, and alway dessinfect the area where you´ll shiot before and after, a cotton soaked in ethanol pressedhard against the injection site for a cople of minutes is the best way to avoid an hematroma....it´s fuj as fuck, but be safe.

 

[Arsteraad]

I always backloaded my heroin and midazolam (used another syringe filled with sterile cottons and cffe filters), then I used a micron filter, though sometimes I didn´t. I usually heated the H for about 10 secs, bt never heated the midazoalam (I had ampules, but mostly used dormicum 15mg pills), for the midazolam I filtered twice and used about 1,7ml of a 2ml syringe to inject 15mg, with heroin t was easier, a ggood ole´terumo .29 1ml 1 1/12¨did the trick...Though I dont reccomend injectin anything, I quit IV used about 3 months ago.....aI Injected so much dormicum pills and bpe daily in my arms and legs (I even shaved my legs to be able to see the veins), now I have no visible visibe veins in any part of my body, except the jugular.....never fucked up there, but my median cubital in my right elbow is so fucked up I think it´ll never heal, so be very careful....I have a shitload of morphine pills now, they aresmall as fuck, and there´s a 24hours pharmacy 1 block from here....but I swore to never IV again (unless it´s an ampoule of a rarity), and I´d love to go an buy syringes ad bang morphine all night long, but that phase is over, be very caredul, and alway dessinfect the area where you´ll shiot before and after, a cotton soaked in ethanol pressedhard against the injection site for a cople of minutes is the best way to avoid an hematroma....it´s fuj as fuck, but be safe.

Sorry to hear you dont have veins anymore.... we are reckless in youth.

 

[The Young Geezer]

Thanks for worrying bout my veins, I talked about it with my GP (hw knows all my drug abuse hitory, but is a great guy whon hoked me up in a clicnical investigation course that has very limited entries), anyway if idon´t IV anymore, which my girl and my mother control frequently some of my veins willl heal, but others are gone forever...so be careful, IVing ain´t no joke....the only syringes i use nowadays are the oral ones for babies 10ml without needle to plug...thpugh it´s not an habit luckily....gonna snort some yayo and embrace my girl who´s nodding the fuck out, I´ll be back later-, peace

 

[johnnyb420]

i thought xanax WAS a -lam benzo (Alprazolam)

you are correct but the problem is alprazolam is not water soluable you can shoot it bit it is not worth just to much hassle for no real benifit it will never feel like midazolam

 

[narutokun]

Oh ok.... I don't mean to detract from your topic, but how is the high? I've never injected benzo's in pill form, but I think I'll probably try it because im getting 50 valiums and 50 xanax's soon. I've had IV Versed when I had two fingertips chopped off and it was utterly amazing, much stronger than the one time I got ahold of one Diazepam ampule.

But anyways, I almost dont understand your question. Midazolam, and the other drugs that i mentioned in my previous thread, do not require heating, so why heat? It seems like the only drugs that should be heated are ones that require it in order to completely dissolve... am i missing something?

No, I'm sorry I was sort of fucked up when I made this thread. I think what I meant is that if injecting large amounts of non heated fluid in this case 10mL could cause any vein damage.
I don't recommend you shooting non-soluble benzo pills. They require ethanol to prepare because they are non water soluble, I've done it with estazolam and alprazolam and it's really nothing like midazolam. I'm sure I did extract most of the benzo contents out of those pills with the alcohol yes, I'm just saying they are nothing like IV midazolam. So like it's been said it's not worth it unless you got ampoules.
For me IV midazolam is a great choice because it's a great rush and since I have a high benzo tolerance I don't get as much amnesia as I did before, at an approximatly 45mg IV dose. IMO IV midazolam is the best benzo to IV and the rush stand on a class of it's own, meaning it's not very similar to other benzos and opiates.

 

[jasoncrest]

I'm just curious about something (it's is still on topic):
-is it dangerous to shoot really hot solution?
-is it dangerous to shoot freezing cold solution? (I remember someone in a thread here on BL said he was putting his loaded syringe in the fridge for a while, and then shoot it, he would call it a "cold shot")

 

[xxanxxtwo]

^^I'm looking for info on this. I've accidentally shot a very shot solution before, and it didn't feel good, though I don't know that it did any damage. Repeatedly doing this would not be good IMO...

 

[phr]

I have heard that shootin' a hot solution can cause vein damage, that's why it's recommended that you cool it down. I'm not sure where the cut off level is, but it's probably somewhere in the lower 100's F.

I'm not sure about an extremely cold solution though.

We shall wait for hfrs' response.

 

[Ham-milton]

i thought xanax WAS a -lam benzo (Alprazolam)

beat me to it, by a lot.

 

[Sgt. Stadanko]

I'm guessing the shot would have to be in equilibrium with your blood serum temperature. 37.5C maybe? Optimum enzyme temperature? Mild temperature changes can't be too harmful, just be careful when considering histamine release and vasoconstriction/dilation with certain drugs.