Codeine

[htina9200]

@htina9200 I agree with the others, opioids are just a band-aid patch. You should tell us what pain it is that you have, my pal.

Contrary to the others, 300 mg. codeine daily doesn't seem like much to me. Damn it! I have heard stories of people here taking 700 mg. or more codeine daily. If you still want to quit it, it shouldn't be too difficult. Only the psychological symptoms can be a bit strong, but with a lot of willpower you can quit for good,

 

[htina9200]

Hi I have arthritis, I'm a 47 year old female, I have had new joints so far in my feet and knee and now my hips and elbows are getting unbearable, my spine is buggered too. I have tried naproxen and tramadol and they didn't help the pain at all and just made me puke. I'm sorry if I sound like a right fanny, I'm also in the UK and I'm guessing your all in the US, thanks for all being kind enough to reply and try and help xx

 

[pally pete]

If you want to quit you need to forget ever getting high on it again. Tapering down and then getting high just once in a while as a treat doesn't worker at all. Ever. Never.
You can go so slow you barely feel anything if you just drop a couple mg a week. Just never go back up in dose.
When you're taking like 30mg a day switch to Immodium to help with the shits and wean off that. Maybe get some diazepam for the last week to help with sleep and anxiety.

To be honest with codeine you're basically fine after a week whatever disE youre on if you just cold turkey. Get 2 weeks off work and some comfort meds like diazepam or pregabs and spend a week relaxing with books/movies/walks/baths and lots of shitting. Eat well, exercise gently and get some isotonic drinks to help with the electrolyte depletion feom the sweating and shitting.

Good luck!

Yeh, codeine is actually quite easy to wean off quickly. Though your mind will tell you otherwise...

Yeah what kind of pain are you taking them for. Opiates areally lovely but they don't kill pain that effectively for very long. Physical therapy may be a way better option.
As I said if you are truly dome with opiates you can't dabble. To get over them you need to be fully off they for months it years.
And trust me codeine won't keep pain at bay for long. Tolerance rises and you end up taking them just to not be a sweaty, snotty, suffering mess. Opiates suck when you've been on them a while.

I'm on mrthanone 85mg a day and if I wanna get high I have to take 250mg minimum which would kill 5 normal people without medical attention. And all I feel is a little warmth. Quit now man. Opiates have taken fucking everything from me.

@htina9200 I agree with the others, opioids are just a band-aid patch. You should tell us what pain it is that you have, my pal.

Contrary to the others, 300 mg. codeine daily doesn't seem like much to me. Damn it! I have heard stories of people here taking 700 mg. or more codeine daily. If you still want to quit it, it shouldn't be too difficult. Only the psychological symptoms can be a bit strong, but with a lot of willpower you can quit for good, bro.

Hi, yes i suffered horrible withdrawl symptoms, I couldnt sleep, had the runs, felt like KI had flu and could hardly make the bed. I thought about it constantly and knew I could get another script, which I did eventually and took a load as soon as I got them. I felt so shit that I had no self control.

Basically... What THEY said.

The psychological aspect may be the monkey that follows you around for life. Physically it will be pretty rough as you attest in your post. But getting the monkey off your back (getting clean ) is the easier part...

Keeping the monkey off your back (the psychological addiction) is the hardest part.. As myself and many others will say due to our ongoing addictions/dependencies..

I wish I could give you some advice, but I myself have not had a true break from Benzos and/or Opiates in around 11 years... Having an addiction is fucking horrible - it makes what can be an already difficult life even harder.

You deserve a better life - believe me!

Try, try, try and keep yourself occupied engaging in any interests/passions/hobbies you may have. I know that's easier said than done. But as you're not yet that deep in a hole (relatively speaking) now is the time to make that extra effort to engage in healthier lifestyle options. As the longer and deeper the addiction goes on, and the more it takes a hold of you, you'll probably find as time goes by that you will lose interest in what were once your interests.

Ten dozen bag of Love and respect coming your way...

 

[htina9200]

Basically... What THEY said.

The psychological aspect may be the monkey that follows you around for life. Physically it will be pretty rough as you attest in your post. But getting the monkey off your back (getting clean ) is the easier part...

Keeping the monkey off your back (the psychological addiction) is the hardest part.. As myself and many others will say due to our ongoing addictions/dependencies..

I wish I could give you some advice, but I myself have not had a true break from Benzos and/or Opiates in around 11 years... Having an addiction is fucking horrible - it makes what can be an already difficult life even harder.

You deserve a better life - believe me!

Try, try, try and keep yourself occupied engaging in any interests/passions/hobbies you may have. I know that's easier said than done. But as you're not yet that deep in a hole (relatively speaking) now is the time to make that extra effort to engage in healthier lifestyle options. As the longer and deeper the addiction goes on, and the more it takes a hold of you, you'll probably find as time goes by that you will lose interest in what were once your interests.

Ten dozen bag of Love and respect coming your way...

Aww thank you, sometimes life is just shit, but I need to get out of this hole, thank you

 

[supersonic89]

Hi I have arthritis, I'm a 47 year old female, I have had new joints so far in my feet and knee and now my hips and elbows are getting unbearable, my spine is buggered too. I have tried naproxen and tramadol and they didn't help the pain at all and just made me puke. I'm sorry if I sound like a right fanny, I'm also in the UK and I'm guessing your all in the US, thanks for all being kind enough to reply and try and help xx

Not all are from the United States. I for ex. I am from Chile and I know people from Argentina, Peru, Ireland, France, Italy, etc. It's a pretty multicultural forum

Wow, what you have looks painful and at your age I doesn't even want me to imagine what you're going through. I who was only 29 when I had a herniated disc in my back and suffered from a great fuckig pain (could barely sleep), sadly I ended up getting addicted to tramadol, but it was terribly effective for pain. And when I took it with pregabalin the pain completely disappeared. Eventually my herniated disc healed on its own or by a miracle . I wouldn't blame you if you want to get back to take codeine. I think you should talk to your doctor.

 

[supersonic89]

Hi, I have been taking them for years for pain but taking the higher dose for about a year, I managed for about a month but then needed them for pain again but ended up using far too much of it again. Thanks for your help.

And did you take higher doses because your dose was no longer effective? It no longer calmed you the pain? Or was it merely to get you high? If it is because it was no longer effective, I understand that you took too much. Eventually, your doctor should have increased your dose or switched to another drug or added another. For the same reason, I think you should talk to your doctor.

Hope you feel better.

My regards.

 

[htina9200]

Not all are from the United States. I for ex. I am from Chile and I know people from Argentina, Peru, Ireland, France, Italy, etc. It's a pretty multicultural forum

Wow, what you have looks painful and at your age I doesn't even want me to imagine what you're going through. I who was only 29 when I had a herniated disc in my back and suffered from a great fuckig pain (could barely sleep), sadly I ended up getting addicted to tramadol, but it was terribly effective for pain. And when I took it with pregabalin the pain completely disappeared. Eventually my herniated disc healed on its own or by a miracle . I wouldn't blame you if you want to get back to take codeine. I think you should talk to your doctor.

Hi, yes unfortunately I am in pain nearly all of the time, tramadol just made me feel sick but they didn't take the pain away, I guess some things don't wprk for some people.

 

[htina9200]

And did you take higher doses because your dose was no longer effective? It no longer calmed you the pain? Or was it merely to get you high? If it is because it was no longer effective, I understand that you took too much. Eventually, your doctor should have increased your dose or switched to another drug or added another. For the same reason, I think you should talk to your doctor.

Hope you feel better.

My regards.

Hi, yes to begin with I would take 3 four times a day instead of 2 and it went up and up but then the feeling it gave me was warm and fuzzy and then I didn't feel the pain as much. My Dr isn't very helpful to be honest

 

[supersonic89]

Hi, yes to begin with I would take 3 four times a day instead of 2 and it went up and up but then the feeling it gave me was warm and fuzzy and then I didn't feel the pain as much. My Dr isn't very helpful to be honest

In a way I understand you. I started with 37.5 mg. of tramadol 3 times a day and after that dose no longer relieved any pain, so I went up to 50 mg. and then 100 mg. and so I continued. Eventually, I ran out of doses and ended up addicted to that feeling that opioids give you. I was very afraid to talk to my doctor because I was afraid he would cut me off the tramadol.

And you're right about tramadol. It doesn't work for everyone (some people are poor metabolizers). In fact, many hate it (especially in this forum ). But it works to me a lot. Maybe if I had been more responsible and honest with my doctor, I would not be in the situation I am now. I was taking tramadol and pregabalin (herniated disc).

 

[evo4ever]

Hi, I'm from the UK too and I can help u in terms of what pain relief is available to u from the NHS...

I'm a chronic pain sufferer as well and I'll list which opioid pain medicines I've been on....

Codeine
Tramadol
Dihydrocodeine (ER pills r available too)
Oramorph (IR Morphine liquid)
Zomorph (ER Morphine caps)
Longtec (ER Oxycodone pills which are equivalent to OxyContin pills)
Shortec (IR Oxycodone caps)

Thats all the opioid painkillers I've tried over the years and I've settled on the Shortec IR caps, I'm on 120mg a day which seems like a lot but thats whats required to control my pain. If ur doctor starts saying theres nothing stronger than Codeine or Tramadol or even Morphine then hes completely talking out of his arse!!! Oh and I forgot... Hydromorphone is available too in the form of Palladone IR and ER caps and Fentanyl is as well in the form of dermal patches but I'm not sure who makes them. And I agree Tramadol can be a nasty drug in terms of side-effects and if u suffer a lot with nausia then the Oxycodone meds r probably better.

Good luck,

 

[htina9200]

Hi, I'm from the UK too and I can help u in terms of what pain relief is available to u from the NHS...

I'm a chronic pain sufferer as well and I'll list which opioid pain medicines I've been on....

Codeine
Tramadol
Dihydrocodeine (ER pills r available too)
Oramorph (IR Morphine liquid)
Zomorph (ER Morphine caps)
Longtec (ER Oxycodone pills which are equivalent to OxyContin pills)
Shortec (IR Oxycodone caps)

Thats all the opioid painkillers I've tried over the years and I've settled on the Shortec IR caps, I'm on 120mg a day which seems like a lot but thats whats required to control my pain. If ur doctor starts saying theres nothing stronger than Codeine or Tramadol or even Morphine then hes completely talking out of his arse!!! Oh and I forgot... Hydromorphone is available too in the form of Palladone IR and ER caps and Fentanyl is as well in the form of dermal patches but I'm not sure who makes them. And I agree Tramadol can be a nasty drug in terms of side-effects and if u suffer a lot with nausia then the Oxycodone meds r probably better.

Good luck,

Hi I have been on dihydricodeine every time I have had a new joint but not for long then back down to codeine and they argue about the fact I take 8 tablets a day, which I as allowed but I think they don't get the pain levels I can be in from day to day. Thanks for the info

 

[Ganjcat]

If you do commit to cutting down try to hold out as long as possible before dosing this is very important you should really wait until night time if you can't then have 2 tabs when you wake up then do your normal dose in the evening 2-3 hours before bed

 

[htina9200]

If you do commit to cutting down try to hold out as long as possible before dosing this is very important you should really wait until night time if you can't then have 2 tabs when you wake up then do your normal dose in the evening 2-3 hours before bed

okay, I will try, I normally wake up in pain and take them before I even get out of bed, any other ideas

 

[4meSM]

You want to stop taking codeine but how are you going to deal with the pain? Do you have any other options? You should see a pain specialist if you aren't already.

If your pain is that serious and codeine is the only thing that works (so far) you will eventually start taking it again, if you truly want to break the cycle you need to find a better alternative.

 

[Ganjcat]

okay, I will try, I normally wake up in pain and take them before I even get out of bed, any other ideas

I was in the exact situation as you now I am on a methadone recovery program after a 2+year coming onto 3 heroin program and I still get pain only normal painkillers like what your using don't work anymore this is not the way trust me

 

[Ganjcat]

Why does codeine always manage to find the front page lol people said it was because of me but I haven't posted much in a while and certainly nothing about codeine although I still do take it to fill my stomach receptors before taking heroin

Very well I will tell my story with this drug tis and epic take that I wish to do justice

drone and anything else someone would shove down my nose my opiate addiction also started at this point with me thinking I'm clever and taking codeine every time I had a comedown and then just every time I had it i didn't get addicted though I moved city when I was 17 in order to try and quit drugs like mephedrone and weed mainly weed naturally I had no opportunity to get any codeine for a long time then I managed to blag a prescription off my doc I nearly jumped and did a dance when I realised I had secured a prescription for a box of 50x 30mg pure codeine tabs every 2 weeks I was only 18 some people would kill for that prescription at that age when I got home I was probably in a really happy mood I probably popped then in the kitchen instead of going up stairs I was so excited I already had experience with them over a year ago so knew they made me feel really really good and stuff and so was the beginning my friends of a long and lazy addiction meeting all sorts of great and pleasant character and the ultimate mission of getting out of bed everyday only to get as high as possible as quick and possible and then getting back in bed maybe play some gta 4 just like my school days of skiving off and playing gta 4 and get stoned instead I will probably take codeine now and again if I manage to get off the opiates it has a much more pleasant and less of a dirty high then heroin if your tolerance is low enough music for example which I LOVE to listen to high or sober sounds a lot better and I mean almost heavenly on codeine and on heroin it's no where near as enjoyable maybe it's becAuse I can't be assed to listen and just wanna nod out

 

[supersonic89]

You want to stop taking codeine but how are you going to deal with the pain? Do you have any other options? You should see a pain specialist if you aren't already.

If your pain is that serious and codeine is the only thing that works (so far) you will eventually start taking it again, if you truly want to break the cycle you need to find a better alternative.

Maybe take kratom?

It's definitely less addictive than codeine and I have heard good comments about its pain-killing properties.

Idk just an idea.

 

[evo4ever]

If the OP is in constant pain then its inappropriate to stop the painkillers, the OP shouldn't have to suffer in constant pain its unethical and the doctor should be doing more to get his pain under control, theres lots of options! It sounds like his doctor is "questioning his pain levels" which is wrong, id be looking for a different doctor if it was me!

 

[pally pete]

Hi, yes to begin with I would take 3 four times a day instead of 2 and it went up and up but then the feeling it gave me was warm and fuzzy and then I didn't feel the pain as much. My Dr isn't very helpful to be honest

I've found through years of various types and degrees of suffering this to be the unfortunate case. There are exceptions though - and as frustrating and demoralising as it can get, you have to keep searching and pushing for that correct/empathetic/compassionate/understanding Dr... They do exist.

Hi, I'm from the UK too and I can help u in terms of what pain relief is available to u from the NHS...

I'm a chronic pain sufferer as well and I'll list which opioid pain medicines I've been on....

Codeine
Tramadol
Dihydrocodeine (ER pills r available too)
Oramorph (IR Morphine liquid)
Zomorph (ER Morphine caps)
Longtec (ER Oxycodone pills which are equivalent to OxyContin pills)
Shortec (IR Oxycodone caps)

Thats all the opioid painkillers I've tried over the years and I've settled on the Shortec IR caps, I'm on 120mg a day which seems like a lot but thats whats required to control my pain. If ur doctor starts saying theres nothing stronger than Codeine or Tramadol or even Morphine then hes completely talking out of his arse!!! Oh and I forgot... Hydromorphone is available too in the form of Palladone IR and ER caps and Fentanyl is as well in the form of dermal patches but I'm not sure who makes them. And I agree Tramadol can be a nasty drug in terms of side-effects and if u suffer a lot with nausia then the Oxycodone meds r probably better.

Good luck,

I think you may be one of the lucky few who actually get to try the options for pain relief rather than getting palmed off like the rest of us. I've suffered with episodic and also chronic cluster headaches, so I know what an 11 on the pain chart feels like! I literally had to beg my Neurologist several times as well as several GP's before they would even prescribe me with Sumatriptan Subcutaneous Injections to help abort a " Suicide Headache ". And Sumatriptan isn't even an Opioid, or a habit-forming medication. It's the gold-standard Cluster Headache abortative (100% High-flow Oxygen 7 - 12 Litres per minute can also be used) But good luck to anybody trying to get the NHS to prescribe you that!

Hi I have been on dihydricodeine every time I have had a new joint but not for long then back down to codeine and they argue about the fact I take 8 tablets a day, which I as allowed but I think they don't get the pain levels I can be in from day to day. Thanks for the info

As I alluded to... There is a serious lack of empathy/understanding within the medical community that seriously needs to be routed out.

You want to stop taking codeine but how are you going to deal with the pain? Do you have any other options? You should see a pain specialist if you aren't already.

If your pain is that serious and codeine is the only thing that works (so far) you will eventually start taking it again, if you truly want to break the cycle you need to find a better alternative.

It took me a few years of begging my Neurologist to actually be seen by the pain specialist... And when I did, he said the only treatment he could offer me was Lignocaine infusion - which he himself admitted was not really applicable/appropriate for my condition.

If the OP is in constant pain then its inappropriate to stop the painkillers, the OP shouldn't have to suffer in constant pain its unethical and the doctor should be doing more to get his pain under control, theres lots of options! It sounds like his doctor is "questioning his pain levels" which is wrong, id be looking for a different doctor if it was me!

QFT.

 

[htina9200]

Hi, I'm from the UK too and I can help u in terms of what pain relief is available to u from the NHS...

I'm a chronic pain sufferer as well and I'll list which opioid pain medicines I've been on....

Codeine
Tramadol
Dihydrocodeine (ER pills r available too)
Oramorph (IR Morphine liquid)
Zomorph (ER Morphine caps)
Longtec (ER Oxycodone pills which are equivalent to OxyContin pills)
Shortec (IR Oxycodone caps)

Thats all the opioid painkillers I've tried over the years and I've settled on the Shortec IR caps, I'm on 120mg a day which seems like a lot but thats whats required to control my pain. If ur doctor starts saying theres nothing stronger than Codeine or Tramadol or even Morphine then hes completely talking out of his arse!!! Oh and I forgot... Hydromorphone is available too in the form of Palladone IR and ER caps and Fentanyl is as well in the form of dermal patches but I'm not sure who makes them. And I agree Tramadol can be a nasty drug in terms of side-effects and if u suffer a lot with nausia then the Oxycodone meds r probably better.

Good luck,

Hi I was just re reading your list of pain relief and wonder how you get your GP to help you that much. When I speak to mine they say to try and just take 2 in the morning and 2 at bedtime and just use paracetamol and ibuprofen during the day. I don't think they get the pain I am in. I have already had new joints in and I'm convinced I'm getting arthritis in other parts of my body. My fingers are starting to bend on the ends, my mother has fingers that point in all different directions so I think I am probably following suit. I don't understand why the GP is just like take paracetamol and you should be ok. I was thinking about saving money and going for a private MRI to see what they would say. Thanks for commenting