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Codeine & CWE Megathread: Version II - [insert witty title]

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IMO it doesnt matter if it's made prescription-only, or if they start to use the Project STOP software, the end result is the same - it will become impossible to obtain anything beyond therapeutic doses at any one time.
 
I am drunk, probably off the mark here, but did someone go on national TV and admit to breaking privacy laws just because he thinks it's the "lesser of two evils" end quote. Does that mean I am allowed to go and murder every single peadophile because that's the lesser of two evils - letting them live, and molest children, or killing them and getting them off the streets. I must be missing something here. Breaching privacy laws is breaching privacy laws. Just like murder is murder, and I would never do the latter, but because the former involves drugs, it's ok? What the fuck? Please, let me know if I am mistaken, deluded or just drunk.

Also. Shouldn't he lose his job? Does anyone live near him so they can report him to the police?
 
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I think the more people natter endlessly about how to get high off OTC Codeine on sites such as this, the quicker any further restrictions will become.
Not pointing any fingers, but this thread is so full of
a) useful comment
b) utter crap and
c) off topic banter
that it is no wonder the authorities are getting more wise to it.
If a legal loophole allows people to get stoned on junk they bought cheaply at the local suburban chemist, of course some hot-shot is going to want to put a stop to this. The previous examples of such things are so numerous so to not bear repeating.
Discretion is your - and every other CWE fan's friend.
 
Yeah, just like the whole "let's not talk about silk road thing". One of the highest trafficked sites on the internet (along with millions of other smaller site) talks about it, but we are such an IMPORTANT and exclusive club, that anything said on Bluelight is a whole nother ball game. Wake up.
 
I take it by your tone that you are addressing that "wake up" comment to me?
Well, you can keep all the illusions of bluelight's obscurity you like, but as arguably the most comprehensive and credible public drug forum in existence (which has a locally relevant subforum, in this here Aus DD), I think it is absolutely naive to think what that what is posted on public forums (in regard to scheduled drugs that are available OTC and easily extracted in a kitchen with a glass or two and a filter) does not catch the eye of "The Man"
(ie the sensationalist media, conservative-as-fuck AMA, reactionary politicians -of which we have many and others).

Do a little research on how salvia came to be banned in Australia.
Wake up?
Sorry, I don't take advice from self-admittedly drunk people.


Edit - the Silk Road dilemma is another issue entirely, based up the BLUA basic principle of "no sourcing".
 
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Whatever mate, don't read my drunken comments. Thanks for listening to my concerns.

Wake up was directed at ALL those people who consider bluelight the only source of information that media have access to. You are still, obviosuly, of the opinion that this one community was entirely to blame for one isolated incident. If you believe that, you should not be a moderator. Not because you are unfit for the job, but because you lack any kind of sense.

No disrespect meant. But seriously, as I said before. Wake up. This is the internet. No the bluelight net.
 
Just ban me, I am not for either thinking nor discussing anything with any kind of restraint. I think a week ban or so should allow me to come back with a clear head. Sorry for any offence I may have caused. Just ban me as I deserve it and can't promise, in my current state, that I won't continue to speak my mind. I apologise, there is no malice intended. Sometimes life gets the better of me and I just spout shit. Sorry, I am turning off the computer before I offend anybody else, most of which respect. I don't want to cause any more trouble.
 
Chill man, nobody is offended - nor is anybody blaming Bluelight.
We exist to stop morons necking handfuls of pills (and grams of para/ibu) but unfortunately we also act as a way of advertising easy ways to get high to the indiscreet masses.
Double edged sword - nobody is pointin fingers, just reminding people that subtly pays off in a regressive "ban it all" climate like we have in australia nowadays.
 
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poledriver said:
Codeine ban will induce headaches: pharmacists
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Hmmm that's strange, as have bought codeine quite a few times since 2010 but never once been asked for ID or anything. Pharmacists at most ask "is it for yourself? Are you on any other medication?". Often they ask nothing at all and just hand the box over.

Having said that ~2010 there was definite changes in that they started keeping the boxes behind the counter. I remember it used to be possible to buy like 4 boxes of 75 tablets without even talking to the pharmacist (the only person you had to get past was the cashier, often a young person who probably had no idea what it was you were buying anyway).

So does this mean that the rescheduling went through but pharmacists are just being lazy? Or is it because I don't look like I would be abusing them? From the article it sounds like they were planning to put it on the same level as pseudoephedrine, for which I've always had to hand over ID.
 
No no no. It's the

a) useful comment
b) utter crap and
c) off topic banter

that throws off the fuzz!!!
 
AminoAcid said:
Hmmm that's strange, as have bought codeine quite a few times since 2010 but never once been asked for ID or anything. Pharmacists at most ask "is it for yourself? Are you on any other medication?". Often they ask nothing at all and just hand the box over.

Having said that ~2010 there was definite changes in that they started keeping the boxes behind the counter. I remember it used to be possible to buy like 4 boxes of 75 tablets without even talking to the pharmacist (the only person you had to get past was the cashier, often a young person who probably had no idea what it was you were buying anyway).

So does this mean that the rescheduling went through but pharmacists are just being lazy? Or is it because I don't look like I would be abusing them? From the article it sounds like they were planning to put it on the same level as pseudoephedrine, for which I've always had to hand over ID.
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The 2010 changes were "restricting pack size" and having pharmacist's ask those questions you mention above.
 
Evilomlap said:
No no no. It's the

a) useful comment
b) utter crap and
c) off topic banter

that throws off the fuzz!!!
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The police have (to my understanding) very little say in what can be sold without a prescription.
They are law enforcers; not law-makers.
It's the populist politicians - and people that get themselves into horrid medical problems with OTC pill abuse (ie not cold water extracted) that ruin it for those of us with the skillz to find a way to eat codeine fairly safely.
And the "utter crap" reference is to the stuff people advocate that is not safe, and jeopardises the harm minimisation aims of Bluelight.
 
spacejunk said:
The police have (to my understanding) very little say in what can be sold without a prescription.
They are law enforcers; not law-makers.
It's the populist politicians - and people that get themselves into horrid medical problems with OTC pill abuse (ie not cold water extracted) that ruin it for those of us with the skillz to find a way to eat codeine fairly safely.
And the "utter crap" reference is to the stuff people advocate that is not safe, and jeopardises the harm minimisation aims of Bluelight.
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The fact is that politicians/reporters/LE Agents can (and do) take any post off here (even if it's completely retarded) and use it to spread the fear-mongering. That coupled with the users who don't CWE and end up in hospital/dead create the foundation for these draconian changes.

Regardless of the helpful posts that try to guide people away from damaging themselves. All the good this site does is generally overlooked by people who don't use drugs (read: those that are only addicted to what their doctor gives them, so it's ok/sarcasm)
 
Damn, I knew this time will come one day but not so soon :S I just wish they would educate people on how to safely take it (including extracting it). If they were so concerned about it then why not make codeine only pills? Codeine is relatively safe compared to say Ibu/para. It really saddens me, not to mention all of those people who legitimately need them for there pain who do not want anything stronger. In the end the government loses money on tax and the pharmacies make a lot less profits. Why cant they just find a resolution to fix all the problems so its a win win situation.

People always like to get high and always will. They will obtain it no matter what or look into substitutes including very dangerous ones. I do admit that I a recreational user but I also have my reasons as to why I do use it. It really saddens me and I think if it becomes too difficult to obtain, I like many others out there will move onto something else being suboxone or just end up using smack in higher doses. I just dont understand why cant they educate people on the dangers and show them a solution like CWE instead of ingesting so much harmful products (ibu/para)just like mentioned above. The goverment or whoever makes these decisions do not care about our well being or what is good for us so Im not really sure why this is happening. Lets hope it doesnt or we will make the move!
 
Just chiming in to reiterate my last point - we need to stick together. And we need to be prepared to stick up for what we all so passionately believe in.
 
I don't see pharmacies being down with any actual bans, maybe a Project STOP style system. OTC codeine is just such a huge part of their profit margin.
 
I really hope they don't ban it, though I really can't see it happening. I'm not naive, but if your we're a CWE junky in 2010, you will remember the huge fuss kicked up when they bought in the restrictions on codeine.

I think we will be looking at more restrictions. Maybe a compulsary nationwide database similar to Project Stop would be useful.

I don't think codeine is being glamourised here. Being a CWE junkie is boring, poossibly dangerous and incredibly time consuming. A lot of our posts reflect that.

I do see your point though. Perhaps a barebones instructional thread should be stickied here in ADD and the discussion thread moved to OD? I know it's been suggested before and I am only a green lighter.
 
all good for me. im a gaRdner two days a week so picked me up 9 poppy pods. made a tea out of it and ive got the nod.
 
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