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Codeine & CWE (aka cdub) Megathread: third time's the charm

Withdrawals are similar to the flu, depending on how dependant you are.

Cold chills destroy me through winter in wd. I live in a cold part of Australia and have been able to handle the weather my whole life. But now I can't stand winter if I'm currently dependent on opi's (unless I'm high on them I suppose).

Runny nose, watery eyes, slight blurred vision at times. Lethargy.

Another bad thing for me is I get brain zaps that co-inside with stopping an SSRI whilst being addicted. I stopped that SSRI a year ago too.

Opi's in general, if it's just codeine these symptoms shouldent be as bad.
 
And because you've been using a fairly low dose the physical wds will likely be minimal. As Brewster said, it's te lethargy and psychological discomfort which really effects me the most.
 
Yeah, I'd think you'd have to be pretty unlucky to get any sort of withdrawals from those doses, and if any, very minimal.

I agree Brewster, the cold absolutely kills me since I've been on opies. Then getting the sweats inside all my layers of clothes, I hate it.
 
How long should I space between heavy drinking and taking 3 grams or so of apap + codeine? This will be happening daily for a bit over a week, either drinking or nodding. Just wondering how long I should leave between the two if Im doing them on the same day
 
What are the symptoms of codeine withdrawal? I've been using codeine close to daily for a while now, and have been noticing a feeling of starting to get a cold but then codeine seems to remove the feeling. Also, last week my anxiety ramped up a bit but then again that is pretty normal for me. Are there any sure fire symptoms of withdrawal that can be differentiated from a cold?

I burn up when sedentary. On the move not so bad. Also a mild depression and feeling of unwellness but so mild wouldn't say I actually feel sick, but if I were to take another codeine hit, I suddenly realise how much better I feel, and that's the trap I've found myself in, especially when I need to feel well while coming off the stuff. Everything resets again. I realise how bad it must be to be a smack addict coming off the stuff considering codeine withdraw is so mild in comparison. Another withdrawl symptom used to always be liquidy shits, I was forever getting prescriptions medications to solidify my shits, and come to think of it anti nausea meds to stop the feeling of near puking. Goes to show how body can adapt as I don't need either medication these days
 
How long should I space between heavy drinking and taking 3 grams or so of apap + codeine? This will be happening daily for a bit over a week, either drinking or nodding. Just wondering how long I should leave between the two if Im doing them on the same day

Don't take APAP with your codeine. Is there any reason you can't CWE the pills?

I haven't had an issue with drinking and dosing codeine on the same day, but with the APAP I'd be careful as it's going to take a toll on your liver.
 
Don't take APAP with your codeine. Is there any reason you can't CWE the pills?

I haven't had an issue with drinking and dosing codeine on the same day, but with the APAP I'd be careful as it's going to take a toll on your liver.

I'm going to be in Thailand so getting everything I need for a cwe could be difficult and I'm really shit at cwe's so I'd rather not do one if I dont have to. I might just do a cwe for half of the dose I want then take the full pills to make up the rest. But if I do decide to just have them all with the apap I'm just wondering how much time I should wait before getting blind. Or if I am blind and want to do it how long should I wait to sober up
 
Is it really going to be that difficult to get some coffee filters, or a shirt at the least? Hell, you'd have no troubles taking the filters in your luggage over there.

Not having a go at you mate, just looking out for your health. If you're going to be drinking heavily it's best to be kind to your liver. Don't want to hear stories of you waking up in a Thai hospital.
 
Black Rabbit of Inlè said:
Is it really going to be that difficult to get some coffee filters, or a shirt at the least? Hell, you'd have no troubles taking the filters in your luggage over there.

This. Just stick some coffee filters in your bag, they take up fuck all room. I've made cdubs whilst backpacking around various places, it's not hard to do at all. If you have limited time/space, I find just filtering through coffee filters pretty effective. Get a triple layer of them wet and put your gunk straight into it, you can even squeeze it gently without the filters ripping. With only a few tablets as you seem to be suggesting, it'll take you less than 5 minutes, and the only other thing you need are cups, which can be found everywhere.

I don't think there's one standard answer as to how long you should wait after taking paracetamol to safely drink. I think the important factor here is that you'll be doing it daily - so what may have been non-harmful on the first day, may carry a much greater risk of causing harm when you have several days of this pattern behind you. Paracetamol toxicity can occur at lower doses when those doses are taken daily, so I think your risks increase the longer you do this.
 
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I'm going to be in Thailand so getting everything I need for a cwe could be difficult and I'm really shit at cwe's so I'd rather not do one if I dont have to. I might just do a cwe for half of the dose I want then take the full pills to make up the rest. But if I do decide to just have them all with the apap I'm just wondering how much time I should wait before getting blind. Or if I am blind and want to do it how long should I wait to sober up

Read about 'paracetamol permanent liver damage' (or paracetamol toxicity).

Your liver will hate you after a week of chugging pain pills and drinking alcohol evey night.

Alcohol raises the risk of getting permanent liver damage from paracetamol.
 
yesterday I scored a 200ml bottle of Rikodeine ! lol shit is awesome total of 380mg of dihydrocodeine in cough syrup bottle for those who haven't come across it. It is a little stronger than codeine mg probably 1.5 I'd say, not as euphoric as codeine dose on a good day, but it lasts much longer and will hit you every time because it isn't enzyme dependant as far as I can see

only thing is it is harder to get it out of the pharmacists even though it is S3 like codeine stuffs
 
Did a cdub on 40 chem own yellow tabs. Solution came out yellow which freaked me out but I searched and a couple years back someone raised the same concern and a couple of you guys said it was fine.

I've been doing these a while and it's the first time I've seen it! I triple filtered to be sure so now I'm gonna slam it and put my paranoia to rest :)
 
I'm gonna slam it

I'm sure you mean drink it - as in slam it down - as in drink it quickly.

But, I'm just pointing out for anyone else reading this, that you cannot shoot up ("slam", "bang", etc) codeine extracts. It's very dangerous.

This is my harm reduction contribution for the day. I will now commence making stupid and "witty" comments in other threads...
 
A worthwhile reminder to others who might have misinterpreted what I meant. I did indeed drink it. Don't shoot the extract kiddies.

For the sake of discussion can't (APPROPRIATE) codeine solutions be administered subcutaneously?
 
I reckon make a huge syringe/needle straight into the liver so it can be quickly converted to morphine, that would be best ROA imho
 
I reckon make a huge syringe/needle straight into the liver so it can be quickly converted to morphine, that would be best ROA imho

lol.

Ok, seriously, nobody think of injecting codeine. Especially a CWE. Why must harm reduction be so... funny some times, that people may misinterpret humour? Anyway, life sucks and then you die, die quicker if you inject codeine if you want.
 
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