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Codeine & CWE (aka cdub) Megathread: third time's the charm

Howdy Cowboy:)

When I went to squeeze the remaining Codeine out a bit of white sludge leaked out of the shirt and into the juice
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I wouldn't squeeze the shirt or whatever filter you're using directly into the glass that you are going to drink the solution from. Squeezing it can push through more paracetamol.

As codeine is water soluble, all you want is the clear liquid. You can squeeze the shirt/filter into another secondary filter to get the liquid which has soaked into the original filter. But don't squeeze the final filter into the drinkable solution. Especially if you have juice in there which makes it hard to tell how clear the solution is.

Paracetamol can cause damage which isn't obvious soon after ingestion - even if it's a large amount. If you're doing regular (or semi-regular) CWEs, you want to limit the amount of paracetamol you intake as much as possible, because that shit adds up and hammers away at your vital organs.
 
Hi Jazzcat:)

I'm pretty new to Codeine. Today I got my hands on the generic brand of Panadeine Forte called Codapane Forte containing 20 x 500/30. Did a CWE with 10 pills, they dissolved in 50 ml of tap water almost instantly, then straight into a coffee filter resulting in crystal clear liquid in about 10 minutes. Really happy with the results.
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Ahhhh... that takes me back. That was about the amount I had when I did my first ever CWE, which was in turn my first opiate experience. Many years ago.

As it turns out, 300mg was way too much for me, and I puked. Then I felt drowsy for a while. Then I spent the next five hours in a state of tranquility which was so mind-blowingly novel for me that I thought I'd had a taste of enlightenment.

Fast forward to present day: I rarely use codeine anymore because it doesn't do much unless I add lots of other shit to it. But the other day I had a histamine response out of the blue from a CWE which was supposed to be a booster to a bit of morphine I'd had earlier. It's like the third time I've had histamine reaction from codeine, after literally doing hundreds of them over the years. I just don't seem to get them. Except for the odd freaky surprise attack.

I itched so bad that I lay on the carpet with only my underwear on, and squirmed around like a worm trying to scratch every part of my body.

So... yeah... watch out for that....
 
I've never had that histamine response people talk about. I used to get a bit of the old opiate itches a couple hours in when I had no tolerance but that's it.
 
Oxyuranus said:
I've never had that histamine response people talk about. I used to get a bit of the old opiate itches a couple hours in when I had no tolerance but that's it.
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I get the itch real bad if I forget to take an antihistamine. My whole body goes bright red and itches long after I've broken the skin, not quite as bad as the histamine reaction from DXM but still unpleasant.

I dose around 300mg+ these days, anything under and it did nothing for me.

Codeine Cowboy - the colder your water, the less paracetamol and more codeine you'll dissolve, try not to squeeze your filter/shirt unless you are going to filter a 2nd time without squeezing. As Halif stated, squeezing forces some of the para blob through into your final solution.
 
Halif said:
I itched so bad that I lay on the carpet with only my underwear on, and squirmed around like a worm trying to scratch every part of my body.

So... yeah... watch out for that....
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Ahaha :)

It seems like a lot of people get a bad codeine histamine reaction popping up once in a blue moon for some unknown reason. I've always been susceptible to strong histamine release with opioids, but once in awhile I'll get a super bad response like that from codeine. My first experiences with heroin were horrible - I'd get incapacitating nausea after just a burn or two that'd leave me lying on the couch for hours unable to even turn my head without feeling like I was going to chuck. For that reason I'd pretty much written opioids off altogether - it was only when I discovered antihistamines that I could appreciate them at all. Dimenhydrinate completely kills the nausea for me.

It's gotten better as my tolly has increased but I can still get caught out with horrible nausea/itching if I don't take an antihistamine. Right now my body looks like I've been attacked by a rogue cat - I have scratches all over me from the fucking awesome smack I did last night. I must scratch myself raw when I'm asleep.
 
I've started dosing without an anti-histamine nowadays. It's more euphoric, and I barely itch in any case. I do like the itchies though - especially around my lower body area like legs and groin. Yum
 
How long do you guys let your solution filter? I use a big Harrison coffee filter and wait anywhere from 30min-2hrs. It's hard to know when that last drop is outta there, and it's even harder to wait. Sometimes I give the filter a bit of a shake (not squeeze) because that often breaks it.

Occasionally I've left it over night and the filter is often dry so I assume that's a pretty much %100 filtration. It doesn't seem to get me much higher though.
 
Depends on the brand.

Panadeine extra filters really quickly. Like within 10 minutes. I would occasionally leave it for half an hour or so.

The Mydol and Trust tablets seem to be made by the same manufacture. Their pills dissolve very slowly and the resulting solution filters even slower. Fucking annoying. So yeah, I used to leave it around 2 hours or so. I had the best results when I started the filtration before I left for work in the morning though.
 
infectedmushroom said:
How long do you guys let your solution filter? I use a big Harrison coffee filter and wait anywhere from 30min-2hrs. It's hard to know when that last drop is outta there, and it's even harder to wait. Sometimes I give the filter a bit of a shake (not squeeze) because that often breaks it.
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I just CWE'd the generic Panadiene Extras and it took about 30 mins with a Harris filter. I usually let it filter until I can't tell if there's any liquid left in the filter, squeeze the rest through and then filter a 2nd time. The 2nd filter always takes <1 min to be done completely.

600mg down the hatch and I'm feeling fine %)

EDIT: Question though, for those that get the histamine reaction, how long does it usually last for you?
 
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The itch and scratch is a histamine reaction... IME antihistamines (usually promethazine) dulls the codeine high. I love the itch of opioids, but with codeine i need 600mg + for a decent high... With H no histamine reaction usually tells me I have low quality gear... love the itch...
 
EDIT: Question though, for those that get the histamine reaction, how long does it usually last for you?
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I have got the histamine itch three or four times in six years of use (half of that daily) of various opiates, but the few times I got it, it lasted less than an hour (the peak that is).

HOWEVER, the last one that I was babbling about earlier in this thread which was set off by a CWE combined with two other opiates/opoids brought about the mother of all reactions - it started within twenty minutes, by the hour mark I was covered in a red rash and itching like a fucking naked mole rat covered in steel wool (it hurt to scratch), and .... wait for it...

although the severity dropped at the midway point (thank god), the total duraction of itchiness and visible red rashes was.....

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....drum roll.....

48 hours!!!!!!!!!!!!


I don't.... I mean.... It usually doesn't even...... six years of use, fairly robust tolerance.... what the fuck happened this one time?!??!!?!?!?!??!?!



<sorry for the melodrama - I'm bored>
 
Right... After being back on the chemist hopping bandwagon for a few months, I am fucking over it, it's just not worth the effort anymore.

So, starting today, I'm drastically reducing my dose with an aim to be completely clean from codeine in another fortnight or so. I have been on around 800mg a day. Today I am cutting that in half and reducing my dose to 400mg. That means I only have to visit one chemist a day from now on. Thank Fuck.

I've been burned by benzos in the past so the closest things I have are unlimited 300mg Lyrica and unlimited 300mg Gabapentin. I have a fair tolerance to both so I'm not sure how helpful they'll be. I've got the trusty old immodium, Celebrex (Celecoxib), Mobic (Meloxicam), Nurofen and Panadol Osteo (XR Panadol, it works so much better than IR) I also have a couple ounces of some real nice weed. An ounce of fucking crazy sativa and an ounce of a very indica dominant outdoor bud.

So, I think I'll be fairly comfortable!

Does anyone else enjoy the first 36 hours or so of withdrawal?
 
Thanks dude :)

Man this is freakin awesome. Best time of my life.

But no seriously I do enjoy it. Especially with weed. I start to get all emotional and music becomes awesome again. I'm all sweaty and scattered like I would be if I were commin down from speed. It's just nice.
 
What are the symptoms of codeine withdrawal? I've been using codeine close to daily for a while now, and have been noticing a feeling of starting to get a cold but then codeine seems to remove the feeling. Also, last week my anxiety ramped up a bit but then again that is pretty normal for me. Are there any sure fire symptoms of withdrawal that can be differentiated from a cold?

I have been using anywhere from 45mg to 200mg most days of the week (close to daily) this has been going on for months now.

If I have got myself a physical dependence, how bad are the withdrawals on these type of doses? What would I expect and for how long?
 
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