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Codeine and CWE Megathread - The long awaited!

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I didn't really find DHC more potent per mg than codeine, really its a lot less sedating and I would say I get notably less out of a 200mL riko bottle (380mg DHC) than I would out of a 400-600mg CWE. Since I usually take my opiates while relaxing maybe I didn't notice some of the more stimulating properties DHC had to offer? I dunno... For me anyways I take codeine over DHC all day, any day.
 
I thought DHC products, particularly Rikodeine, had massive amounts of sorbitol in them.

Just read Blonde's post again, my apologies. Still, the cough syrup has copious amounts of sorbitol in them.
 
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I didn't really find DHC more potent per mg than codeine, really its a lot less sedating and I would say I get notably less out of a 200mL riko bottle (380mg DHC) than I would out of a 400-600mg CWE. Since I usually take my opiates while relaxing maybe I didn't notice some of the more stimulating properties DHC had to offer? I dunno... For me anyways I take codeine over DHC all day, any day.
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I didn't really find it that stimulating, granted I was using it with a lot of codeine and often other sedatives too. Can't really remember if it was 'stimulating' when I had it by itself; perhaps less sedating then codeine/morphine.

I don't mind DHC, but given the form it's available in I agree codeine over Rikodeine any day. :D
 
yeah, i think the whole experience of rikodeine (the sorbitol, mainly) taints any enjoyment i can get out of DHC. i mean, it's obviously the point of the preparation. pretty gross, but surely safer than it is for the poor fools who eat two packets of panadeine without extracting anything. it'll give you the shits, but it won't destroy your liver.

for me opiates induce a sense of calm and relaxation. this is pretty much what i am after when i take a dose.
a bloated gut making gurgling sounds along with gas and diarrhoea is not conducive to calm or relaxation, so i can't really give an informed opinion of dihydrocodeine.
i've only had the 'tainted if taken in recreational doses' stuff - but my suspicion is that if you had both codeine and DHC without unpleasant additives, that the DHC would be rather agreeable. but i just feel undignified and silly chugging that shit - it's a shame there is no CWE of rikodeine.
although, if there was, it probably wouldn't be available over the counter any more.
 
Does anyone know how much time we have til it will be basically a pain to get? How long does the re scheduling take once the decision has been made (public)? (not sure if I used the correct terminology here but hope u understand my question)
 
^ No decision has been made to toughen the rules though... unless I've missed something important lately?

See the MDPV thread I posted around Christmas time. Once a re-scheduling decision has been made, they will usually give some time until the change comes into effect. For MDPV it was at least three months, when they changed the laws for codeine in 2010 I remember we still had at least a couple of months before things changed.
 
Cwe just don't seem to do it for me anymore unless I have bud to go with it
 
DHC was really nice, after a year away from opiates, a bottle of sorbitol gave me a mild nod. Shit ruled, and then what follows was 48 hours of constant violent liquid shits. Never again.

I'll take codeine over it most of the time, my first opiate and its still nice. I usually take 300-400 mg nowadays and its still pretty enjoyable.
 
Am trying @ Sustanon's method of 50/50 cordial atm. Instead of using a shirt though, I am using a tea towel.

Rikodeine is a lot better than codeine IMO. It's only downfall is that it's almost improbable that you could get rid of all the sorbitol content found in OTC Riko, and the shits is almost unbearable.

Codeine, in the form of Panadeine Forte, still packs a couple of punches IMO. Dosages of 300 mg + 5 grams of Paracetamol will knock any pain outta the park (That's about 30-60 mg of morphine), plus I'd take codeine phosphate over rikodeine any day of the week, due to it's shitting and it only works right if you eat a foot long meatball Subway after having consumed the Rikodeine.
 
^ Ha, what does the footlong do? I find eating within half an hour of taking most drugs will dampen absorption, sometimes quite a bit if I eat too soon.
 
You need to have an empty stomach before you take codeine, try not eating for at least 3-4 hours and see the difference. Let me know how my method worked out for u ThHardMotherfucker.
 
Yeah and DHC products I was talking about were pure tablets with no sorbitol.

Still no guarantee I can get some. Just curious if I should take the risk in trying to acquire some or if I should just still to 'acquiring' my box of 100 pan fortes that I have got quite often in the past.
 
^ Oh... I don't the difference between them is drastic enough that it's worth it for anything other then the novelty factor. I haven't had a chance to experiment with pure DHC tablets, but from my experience using Rikodeine it's just a slightly different high to codeine. Less histamine reaction, some people find it a little more 'stimulating'.
 
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I didn't really find it that stimulating, granted I was using it with a lot of codeine and often other sedatives too. Can't really remember if it was 'stimulating' when I had it by itself; perhaps less sedating then codeine/morphine.

I don't mind DHC, but given the form it's available in I agree codeine over Rikodeine any day. :D
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Yeah I wouldn't say it is stimulating, just lacks sedative effects present with most other opiates that I use personally. Even oxy, which I would describe as stimulating at times, can induce a nod easier for me than DHC (never actually nodded on this substance) and overall for me DHC just lacked pleasant effects... It might be what someone else is looking for but the only way I would ever use this stuff again is if it was either free, in pure form (that is NOT rikodeine), or if I picked up a dope habit and it was my only option to alleviate sickness. I honestly find codeine more potent per mg than this substance but YMMV.
 
I take DHC regularly. It's just as enjoyable as codeine, but lasts longer.

Major problem, the only form its found in in Australia has a MASSIVE amount of sorbitol, which creates a serious gas problem for most. If you can deal with that, you'll be fine.

Oh, and I've nodded plenty on DHC (when you are taking 200mL of the shit, it tends to do that), but it does make sleeping itself a bit odd. Similar to Oxycodone in that respect.
 
^ Not to suggest this dose is appropriate for anyone else, particularly opiate naive individuals, but well over 50% of my experience with DHC matches or exceeds 200mLs of Rikodeine... Often used in conjunction with other depressants (not advisable) and personally felt probably less sedation with the addition of said depressants than I would having taken those drugs minus DHC. My first experiences using DHC were to pile onto a 'ceiling' dose of codeine and hope to achieve greater opioid effects, everytime I felt less relaxed or sleepy than I would from a 'ceiling' dose of codeine on it's own with the other drugs I was taking.

DHC is probably the only opioid other than oxycodone that has disrupted my ability to sleep but for me once I get to sleep the only thing that generally disrupts sleep with opiate/opioid use is if I use DXM to potentiate my dose.
 
Yeah, I do see what you mean. Despite having extensive experience with opiates, I generally have kept my usage to "once a week" sort of levels, so tolerance hasn't even been too crazy. I'd wager that might have something to do with it as well?
 
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