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Codeine and CWE Megathread - The long awaited!

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mooms said:
does anyone know if the final product can be stored for later use? sometime i'll do an extraction and not feel like consuming at the time.
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It will last in the fridge for a few days but the longer u leave it the more chance it will go off and be mouldy. Why not prepare it the day u drink it? Ive been working on an awesome tek that is very quick and efficient. If anyone is interested in my tweaked tek lemme know and ill post it up. Same tek as most CWE's but this one maxiumizes yeilds and takes roughly about 1 min to do.
 
You could also off evaporate the water and store the codeine as a powder.

Best method I've heard of is, stick the final product on a flat dish in the oven on the lowest setting with the fan on and the door open. Think you gotta keep it under 80deg celsius and out of sunlight as well..
 
^^^ True however there would also be a percentage lose for codeine too. Admittedly you could reduce this even further, but via each step, you're losing codeine.
 
Yeah ur yield will be a lot less with the evaporating tek. Every time I tried it I ended up with a mouldy solution:S Threw out 4-5 boxes because of this. Not good.
 
Add some alcohol like vodka or something to the mixture and keep it cool. Should last a while.
 
mooms said:
does anyone know if the final product can be stored for later use? sometime i'll do an extraction and not feel like consuming at the time.
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although extremely unlike to ever happen, I do think technically you are committing a crime when doing a CWE. You're manufacturing a controlled drug. Relating to that - possession of a controlled drug, and possession of the glass and coffee filter then become another charge and even your panadeine becomes a precursor chemical for the manufacture of a controlled drug.

[keep in mind I should be on xanax but got cut off, and i'm not sure of any of that.]
 
Probably all true. But in reality Im sure the only time you'd get nailed for something like that would be if you were running a large operation obviously extracting large quantities on a daily basis and selling the resulting solution.
 
Yeah, or police raid your house for whatever reason, ask if that's a glass of water in your fridge and you answer NO OFFICER THAT'S MY CODEINE EXTRACT......doh!

I just don't ever keep anything illegal on my property, not even weed, I go for a short walk to my secret stash and smoking spot, then walk home again. Paranoid much??? Yes, I'd say so, but helps me sleep at night.
 
the likelihood of getting charged for carrying out a CWE is very low. we're talking about the extraction of an OTC medication for personal use. not for supply, not hundreds of doses, just a quick and easy extraction with household products. like making a cup of tea or something.
yes, i'm sure it is illegal, but cops aren't always that clued-in about the drug culture. in fact, most of them are absolute squares who wouldn't recognise anything out of the ordinary in a glass of water in a refrigerator. even if they did ask you about it, there'd be a number of avenues of bullshit or even leveling with them that would be available to you.
"i realised, officer, that buying drugs off criminals was the wrong thing to do, but my back hurts so much, and i'm allergic to paracetamol - i thought this would be ok"
not going to work every time, but not worth freaking out about either. i once uh...knew a guy...who talked his way out of a shroom grow kit with 5 cops and a video camera in his one bedroom apartment. true story :D
 
Seems there's an intergrated codeine database now.

I got asked for ID 3 days ago and while he was recording it he told me it'd show up no matter where I went. I thought he was bullshitting because in the past, despite buying codeine daily and getting my ID recorded, there was no apparent communication between different stores.

Today though I went to a different chemist, an independent, no apparent connection to the other one and half an hour apart, got ID scanned and that purchase came up :/
 
fucking hell. that's really scary.
this is why i get paranoid about further restrictions on PST - our legal opies loopholes are tightening.
a sad start to the year. :(

edit - were you refused sale footsy?
does anyone know what the purchase limits are?
 
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Yeah, I was refused sale.

I think the guidelines suggest you can purchase once a week at the max. That's what I was told at certain chemists when I'd make the mistake of going somewhere they take ID more often than that. I'd guess it'd be at the pharmacists discretion though, and I doubt you'd get away with buying a weekly pack indefinitely.
 
i imagine this will leave hundreds, probably thousands of australians in a difficult position.
even though i stopped relying on daily codeine a few months before the increased restrictions of may 2010, i really feel for anyone who needs to do a CWE at least once a day to keep well.

this will push people unnecessarily onto maintenance (using drugs that are much harder to withdraw from), illicit opiates or diverted pharmaceuticals which are obviously a lot less easy to manage.
PST is in the same category as methadone and buprenorphine - long half-life, thus a very drawn-out withdrawal period in detox. not necessarily a better option for most people, especially as it is so hit-and-miss in terms of strength.

good luck to all those folks, i really wish you the best.

i suppose the best long term option for a lot of people is to try and detox while they are only dependent on codeine, but obviously this is easier said than done. another win for the technological nanny state.
 
Yeah, it isn't good at all.

I'm tapering off oxys with codeine atm, luckily most chemists still don't ask for ID atm, but I fear that this is just the first sign of things to come. Codeine has really saved my skin this week, and kept me fairly productive. It really is the best option to taper off most mild to moderate habits, or even to maintain a small habit cheaply. I agree with you that this will just force some people into even crappier situations, it's really going to cause more harm than good as far as I can see.
 
So is it the law now? I bought some on Monday and wasnt asked for ID.

I know pharmacists have the right to ask for it if they want to, but most obviously never do. Sure fucking hope it isnt a legal requirement now like pseudo.
 
Interesting and concerning post, footscrazy. I can confirm that this is not the situation in QLD at the moment.

I'm not sure how they run Project Stop in Victoria, but perhaps the state Pharmacy Guild has taken it upon themselves to add codeine containing products to the program so as to accomplish this? In QLD when entering a request into Stop, you select from a list of products and it would be simple to add codeine products to this list, and since it is a website based program it would not be very difficult to implement either.

I'll see if I can get some more information about this.
 
Ive also ordered codeine products from 3 different websites in the last 2 weeks and none of them had any new guidelines relating to the codeine containting products. Just the typical "only 1 per person per order" spiel.

One site even lets me order a packet of 30 P+ as well as 3 packs of 12 pan extras.


Anyway Im going to go out to day and try to buy some. See what happens. (Im in NSW btw).
 
lol I have this image of confused supermarket managers around the country... scratching their heads at the sudden popularity of poppy seeds. The amount of stock they order which usually lasts a month or two is now selling out in a week :\
 
footscrazy said:
Yeah, I was refused sale.

I think the guidelines suggest you can purchase once a week at the max. That's what I was told at certain chemists when I'd make the mistake of going somewhere they take ID more often than that. I'd guess it'd be at the pharmacists discretion though, and I doubt you'd get away with buying a weekly pack indefinitely.
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What state are you in?

One purchase every Five days is guideline however it's for short term relief of pain. So while most chemists don't care about the 'short term' bit as you say it's up to pharmacist discretion so you can get banned. at the huge Warehouse type pharmacy I"m limited to 1 purchase a month, but what is worse is they are quickly destroying the independent pharmacies due to their low staff wages [some pharmacists are paid $17/h and only use kids as pharmacy assistants] and ability to sell stuff cheaper, and new CW's are popping up all over the place. I think they are now the largest chain of chemists in Australia. They share their databases [probably illegally] so I have been a victim of restrictions for months now.

If CW successfully destroy all competition i'd be fucked . 1 purchase of panadeine per month, and no other chemist chain to go to... ouch!. Btw, some chemists are actually linked together though you wouldn't know it. Near me. I have an independent and a chain pharmacy near each other. The main pharmacist I see in the independant store actually owns the chain store chemist near by. This is quite common and I know of another case near by. Pharmacies can only legally be owned by pharmacists but the pharmacists that own the chemist usually work at another store [I don't know why]
 
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Not quite sure whether this is relevant to recent posts, but thank you for this thread. It's rather helpful information and I'm sure it will serve me well in the future.
As for buying issues, I've never really had an issue with buying from QLD. However, there seem to be a lot of independent pharmacies around my area. I've only ever carded twice.
 
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