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Cocodamol - The drug of the credit crunch? plus other codeine/dihydrocodeine queries

I couldn't really tell you - It's the only opiate I've had, mate. I had to stay away from it when I came back home because it just feels too perfect for me personally. Much of my time at uni was spent in bed, on codeine feeling (not so) sorry for myself :\
 
A T-shirt also works quite nicely as a filter too IME.

Also not always is the solution clear at the end, it depends on what types of pills you used as fillers and binders can also get through the filter.
 
kitchen roll works fine if you use 3 layers and it's not shit kitchen roll.
why are you putting the glass back in the fridge after filtering? this acheives nothin and squeezing the coffee filters takes away the point of using coffee filters in the first place. thsirts are too variable IME some are fine but some let dangerous amounts of paracetamol through. if you want to see how effective your chosen filtration method in you can leave your solution in the fridge overnight and any remaining paracetamol will have sank to the bottom.
coffee filters are probably the safest way to do it bar lab grade filters but they are often useless unless you have filtered the solution first through a shirt or something as they just get blocked up.
 
I dont know why everyone seems to chill there stuff in the fridge, water from the tap runs more than cold enough after 5 seconds anyway. And if your using paramol then you will be very lucky to have a completely clear solution. I have done it so many times now that i can go from crushing to drinking in about 15-20 minutes, thats so long as i fold up the (splitable) sides of the coffee filter and put that into another coffee filter (i usually use 3 in total) that way after half of it has naturally run through i can just pick it up, squeeze the tops shut, and push through the rest, the result is a SLIGHTLY cloudy solution thats more that good enough. I have compared my more cloudy solutions to water mixed with paracetamol and there seriously never really more than 1-1.5g of paracetamol, which is fine, even once a day.

There is my experienced account of CWE, i have seriously done it over 500 times... prescription co-dydramol works the easiest, sinks to the bottom well fast, APAP doesnt even mix with the water for some reason, its almost design for CWE :) hehe
 
I usually do my CWE with Nurofen + pills, as there generally is a large supply of them in my house. I've read that it is much of a muchness, but is there any reason everyone seems to use Codeine/Para pills? Or is it purely because Codeine/Para are alot cheaper than Nuro + ?
 
^ I think cost is one of the main reasons. Also heard someone saying Nurofen + were a bitch to CWE, but i never found a problem with them.
 
I've never used nurofen or paramol. I've always went for the cheapest available; Winthrop or an own brand. I much prefer Winthrop because other brands I've tried seem to taste a bit funny/too sweet.
 
Can i use this CWE and is it safe for this product?

Hey all im thinking of doing a CWE with the Paramol, this is the first time i'v done anything like this so iv come for abit of advice.

Are these products safe to use for CWE? I had the ingredients but i cant figure out how to paste them on my new phone lol.

Im thinking of using the two cups and a Tshirt method because this seems the easiest thing to do for starting out.

I think the DHC per tablet is something like 7%


Cheers =]
 
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Yeh Paramol is fine for CWE's - did one with Paramol yesterday actually. Any non-soluble co-codamol product is ok. Read through the CWE megathread to get familiar with the technique and you'll be ready to go...
 
I cant really find what in looking for on that thread so ill just ask here if its ok so i can get direct answers to my questions.

Sorry if this is a ball ache guys =[

So lets just say i have bought the 32 tablets, how many tablets should i use for a first time user? Ok so i now have the right amount of tablets ready to go.

Now to my understanding i get two cups and in one cup i put enough cold water in just to cover the tablets (is this correct?)
And then after this i filter that water into another cup through a T-shirt, after iv poured this should the liquid go straight through the shirt or does it drip slowly? And if there isnt enough liquid in the cup is it ok to suck the rest through the shirt?

Many thanks =]
 
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Ok, here ya go:

First dose of DHC i'd probably go for between 50 and 80mg, start lowish to see how your body reacts. I used to use heroin and these days I can still feel it if I've had as low as 30mg codeine (DHC is roughly 1.5-2x as strong as codeine, correct me if wrong).

Crush up the pills, have about 2ml per tablet of chilled water ready and mix in the crushed tablets. Stir it around for 5mins and filter through the t shirt. You can squeeze it to get the water out.

Scrape up the mush inside the t shirt and dissolve again in some chilled water - same amount as first time.

Strain through the t shirt again after stirring for 5mins.

With the filtered water I'd stick it through a couple of coffee filter and this time just let it filter of it's own accord, no squeezing if you want a very paracetamol free solution.

The result should be clear to only very slightly cloudy.

Drink this and enjoy. And really, there is loads of info out there in the net just have a search for DHC or codeine cold water extraction. I'm just waiting for my girlfriend to dry her hair and get into bed so thought I'd take the time.
 
I dont have a coffee filter so should the shirt method be ok?
Thanks for taking the time to type that up buddy.
Right last question, will i be ok to do this on a night before work and feel ok the next day for work?
 
there's loads of info in this thread and all about mate, it doesn't hurt to do a bit of research yourself.

Using a tshirt completely depends on the individual shirt, some can be fine others can let through enough paracetamol to damage your liver. amnesiaseizures method is a bit excessive, no point doing it twice through a tshirt. The method using 3 sheets thick of kitchen roll in the top of a 2l bottle as detailed a few times in this thread and countless times elsewhere is the most successful method I have found. If unsure about the safety of your final product then you can leave it sitting in the fridge for a few hours and any remaining paracetamol will sink to the bottom.
 
It might seem a bit much but I always like to be sure I've got as much codeine as possible - the mush left behind always forms a much smoother solution (less grainy bits) so I felt the second wash was able to get to more of the codeine than the first......am I overthinking things here??

There's no way when I use 16 pills that there's anywhere near 3/4 grams of APAP left in that solution so I know I'm safe in that regard.

Will have to give your method a go at some point tho Evad..
 
Evad said:
there's loads of info in this thread and all about mate, it doesn't hurt to do a bit of research yourself.

Using a tshirt completely depends on the individual shirt, some can be fine others can let through enough paracetamol to damage your liver. amnesiaseizures method is a bit excessive, no point doing it twice through a tshirt. The method using 3 sheets thick of kitchen roll in the top of a 2l bottle as detailed a few times in this thread and countless times elsewhere is the most successful method I have found. If unsure about the safety of your final product then you can leave it sitting in the fridge for a few hours and any remaining paracetamol will sink to the bottom.
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Do you mean putting the kitckhen role on top of a 2l bottle with the solution in? If so then why not just use normal cups?
Cheers
 
Also i might be being abit silly but because of the little amount of water wont the paper just soak it up?

Maybe im getting it wrong but for a first time dose ill be only using about 6-7 tablets right?

I forgot to mention ill be using Paramol
 
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amnesiaseizure said:
It might seem a bit much but I always like to be sure I've got as much codeine as possible - the mush left behind always forms a much smoother solution (less grainy bits) so I felt the second wash was able to get to more of the codeine than the first......am I overthinking things here??

There's no way when I use 16 pills that there's anywhere near 3/4 grams of APAP left in that solution so I know I'm safe in that regard.

Will have to give your method a go at some point tho Evad..
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I'm just used to using more pills I think and worried that subsequent washes will do nothing but allow for more paracetamol to be dissolved in to solution. As co-codamol is so cheap I generally just use a larger number of pills to allow for a bit of waste as I feel it's worth the increased safety.

Ibanez88 said:
Do you mean putting the kitckhen role on top of a 2l bottle with the solution in? If so then why not just use normal cups?
Cheers
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cutting off the top of a 2l bottle and turning it upside down to use like a funnel

Ibanez88 said:
Also i might be being abit silly but because of the little amount of water wont the paper just soak it up?

Maybe im getting it wrong but for a first time dose ill be only using about 6-7 tablets right?

I forgot to mention ill be using Paramol
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wet the paper a bit first

you are seriously unwilling to do any reading yourself man, this thread is filled with advice and you wont even go back and read it, it's not a great attitude.
 
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