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RCs Clonazolam (Clonitrazolam)

Blotters are quite dangerous as they can be unevenly dosed leaving some blotters with half a dose while others have two and with clonazolam that's a disaster waiting to happen. With liquid solutions as long as you shake them before measuring a dose you should be OK, but shelf life isn't guaranteed. Be very careful who you buy from and make sure they are reputable
+1 it's both very easy to make very accurately dosed blotters and very easy to fuck it up completely and end up with the dose per blotter varying a lot from blotter to blotter so one of his 0.5mg blotters is actually 0.25mg, one is 0.5mg and one is 1,5mg.... all from the same sheet right next to each other.... so once he'll get a low dose one and not feel anything and next time he'll get a high dose one and black out/fall asleep (although for me clam isn't that hypnotic so I would probably black out while staying awake which is even worse since that's when you do stupid shit without even remembering anything.... flam on the other hand will just knock me out so I won't do any stupid shit but just sleep).

And the whole tolerance/addiction thing varies a lot between people... some will get addicted fast and have really bad wds from relatively low doses taken for a short time and end up with a high tolerance that lasts forever while others can take a lot for a long time and stop with no real problems and have baseline tolerance soon after that and the worst part is you don't know where you are until you try... I went trough a lot (I won't post any numbers so people don't get any ideas.... but let's just say they were very high) of this + flam + fpam + nifoxipam in a few months and had sky high tolerance so it was really pointless to continue so I just stopped (I had a taper plan and everything ready since I assumed I'd need it), but guess what.... no wds ever happened (ok I had some insomnia for a few days, but I have that naturally anyway so 1h vs 2h to fall asleep is really not much of a difference), no shaking hands/seizures/nothing.... the funniest part was waiting for the wds to start which they never did.... 3 weeks later I felt 2mg of diazepam just fine I did the same thing again a few times with the same results except that more benzos were involved norflurazepam and nitrazolam were available
 
I just took .7 clonazelam 40 min ago. It has a creep on effect . I felt like I took 2 2mg clonipin. I took another 10 minutes ago. Haven't felt that one yet but the first one is continuing to progress. I'm sure I will feel awesome bc I sing to have a high tolerance to benzos even when I go without them for several weeks but this is just really for my PTSD and anxiety and honestly just to feel better and be more motivated because I've been depressed and they seem to help with that with my antidepressant medications to be more motivated to do things. So I would recommend just taking one pins or pellet that's from <snip> and they are .7 of lam. Then I think the full peak reaches as 60 minutes of potential . Now that I took the other. I will let yall know how it goes after I feel that one, which starting now. It honestly it's like a Xanax as in strength and shorter half-life and it also feels maybe like a mixture of colanapins and with added energy I feel. But that's usually because benzos give me energy. But it does feel different from klonipen but honestly it feels better.
 
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Omg these benzodiazepines are crazy. I started methadone maintenance after ordering 100 clonazolam .5mg pellets and 100 .25mg flubromazolam pellets. Things were ok until I started on the methadone. I quickly got my dose up to 90mg and was taking pills with it. I don't remember much but my family felt that they were losing me. I was a complete mess. Talking nonsense.. Nodding and drooling.. Burning cigarette holes in everything from clothes to couch cushions... Getting arrested... The only thing that saved me was my girlfriend taking the pills from me while I was nodding and at the same time my clinic cut my dose in half for "sleeping in the waiting room of the clinic". Man was I sick from taking a 45mg methadone cut in one day which should be illegal... The terrible withdrawal I experienced could not be explained but it was only then and after a few days that I started to regain some mental clarity and was able to see the pain in my family's eyes as they looked at an adult baby pretty much dying in front of them.
The problem with these pills is they don't kick in until a few hours after dosing. So redosing is really common because the user either thinks he could handle it or he thinks he is not getting high for whatever reason. By time the extremely potent benzos hit it's too late and when mixed with an opiate like methadone or anything else pretty much, a myriad of terrible events can happen in the users life, including possible death. So please use caution and don't redose. You are playing with fire and no matter how big and tough you are, fire burns.
 
^There's a reason pretty much everyone on this board warns against mixing opiates and benzos (especially methadone and benzos).
 
What's the best way to taper off of about a 3mg/day(1mg 3 x a day) clonazolam dependence? The negative consequences with memory and just generally making me feel lazy and lethargic aren't worth it. I ordered diclazepam because I know it's a long lasting benzo with the least potential for abuse(it's definitely not fun or euphoric) and possibly good for weaning off of other benzos. How would you convert the ashton manual to such a dependence in this case? I have no insurance so going to a doctor for valium isn't an option and I want to continue my active life... academia, especially.
 
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You don't get WD from chipping benzos. That's probably the only angle one can look at benzos that make them less addictive than opiates, a couple days "binging" on benzos won't bring you withdrawals, lol. I'm surprised no one called you on that, this is a HR forum afterall (which means erroneous hypothesis should be called on, it's nothing personal).[/QUOTE
After 25yrs of opiat and benzo addiction I have come to find that personaly Benzos are the hardest of hardest to WD from. Not so much in the physical sense but the head fuck that comes along with benzodiazepine WD last for months if not a year but I wouldn't know about a year cause 4 months is the longest I've ever stayed clean from benzos but i don't usually taper but ATM I'm tapering off valium from very large doses of clonazepam a day for 10yrs so I'll see how it goes this time.
Only on 15mgs a day and coming down 5mgs a month so still a long road ahead but i feel much more positive this time doing it this way.
Sorry to get off topic but i needed to chuck my 2 cents worth in on benzo WDs.
 
Tried clonazolam for the first time yesterday. This is the only benzo I have tried that I would call euphoric and euphoric it is. I would say the euphoria is on par with a strong opoid. Can see this being very addictive. Gonna take some serious control to just chip away at it. Wonderful chem though in my opinion.
 
Does anyone know what other solvents will dissolve clonazolam? Propelyne glycol seems to be the most talked about but it's kind of a one trick pony -- you have your solution of PG and clon and then you're stuck with it; PG doesn't evaporate, it just becomes a sticky mess. I read here on reddit that some folks say it will dissolve 10mg/ml in isopropyl alcohol, but I'm skeptical since it's well said that it's insoluble in ethanol. And yet I've had this on a blotter paper product before, so there must be some evaporatable solvent out there that will dissolve this. I've not read every post in this thread but I've been looking around here and the rest of the web, so what am I missing? anyone got any ideas or experiences outside of PG? much appreciated, thanks!
 
Sounds a bit like the Kaleidoscope vision' I used to get on Ketamine.



I guess you may be referring to me when mentioning the 300mg Xanax binges? I wasn't 'Dicksizing'. I was trying to put into perspective how bad I was on Benzos, and how far I'd come. (10mg Diazepam per day) And what is possible next... How I can feel myself slipping back down that route of abuse - hence the record of Benzos and doses.

I'm sure you can empathise a little due to your own previous attempt(s) at tapering (4mg Clonazepam - 20mg Diazepam) that even you admit was too fast for you to cope with. Yet as you say, you " feel 2/3 less addicted " So how less addicted does that leave me feeling.. It doesn't matter because it's completely relative.

I'd say it's a bit harsh to blame my behaviour for the people in other countries being unable to source Benzos/Pharmaceuticals? I understand the actions of people who abuse (Most of us on Bluelight) has an effect on drug laws, drugs in the mainstream news, and mainstream opinion etc..

I'm not proud of my levels of drug abuse, infact, many find them hard to believe. I wish I was lying! Bluelight is about the only place I've ever really been able to talk about it, as I feel we share a lot more in common than anyone else I've spoken to. Even saying that, I've yet to find somebody who can truely relate to some of my experiences.



Second that, when from 70 mg a day C-LAM, yes that's correct, already had a benzo habit and this was like a godhug for people with panic attacks down to 10 (which I realize is still seriously dangerous territory and am working vigilengtly to drop that). I am not proud of this, in fact I'm downright freakin ashamed that I let supply dictate my use rather than common doses. I am SURE I will have to pay heavily at some point as these seem unavailable from my sources, or rather always out of stock. but the point is no
one is bragging or proud of fucking up bad, I hope.

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Maybe he's born in '88 too though. It was a light joke, but people who go on about taking 100s of mg of benzos active at 0.25mg have poor judgement to start with. All their reports are almost : "see how I have no judgement, those RC benzos should all be burned into a big pile!"
 
Received 5 grams of clonazolam powder from a relatively shady Chinese supplier. Small crystals and powder of a pinkish hue. Not soluble at all in water, decided to make a .5mg per ml solution using isopropyl alcohol. Initial .5 trial on another relatively benzo tolerant individual looked promising. Self trial induced a bit of euphoria and calmness, feel strange when walking. All in all an enjoyable experience, product is good and ready for the rats.

EDIT: If this substance is actually clonazolam (at this point it could be a number of benzos/triazolos) I don't understand how someone could black out and talk shit on half a milligram. I could imaging blacking out while drinking on this but isn't that to be expected? People are honestly in some cases much too stupid to have access to powerful and cheap substances such as benzo derivatives/ fent analogues and the myriad of other mind altering substances sold online. That's just my two fents though.
 
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Maybe he's born in '88 too though. It was a light joke, but people who go on about taking 100s of mg of benzos active at 0.25mg have poor judgement to start with. All their reports are almost : "see how I have no judgement, those RC benzos should all be burned into a big pile!"

I've seen this post a thousand different times and it's soooo true. really have to be a daft fucker to blame a substance for ones own pattern of abuse and or bad experience.
 
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I was on Reddit rn and a guy posted how he can only buy 20 mg of clonazolam at a time because he doesn't trust himself with larger amounts. Jesus Christ if you're not confident in your ability to do what YOU want, DONT order it at all.
 
FYI, there is an edit button under each of your posts. No need to post three times in a row.
 
I was on Reddit rn and a guy posted how he can only buy 20 mg of clonazolam at a time because he doesn't trust himself with larger amounts. Jesus Christ if you're not confident in your ability to do what YOU want, DONT order it at all.

I order myself small amounts of flub-lam, fonazepam, c-lam or diclazepam, like 30 of each, if I can't get powder. For some people it might be a good idea to get a starter kit, like 10 clonazolam, 10 f-lam, 10 pyrazolam, 10 etizolam. It would likely lead less to addictions that will be hard to explain to a doctor as to why you suddenly need 2mg of clonazepam or something twice a day and say you've been buying these "branded" calming products (hint hint) and found out they contained benzodiazepines available in other countries only. There, I think I gave the best phrasing to get yourself out of a possibly deadly (and only because it is possibly deadly) sudden benzo withdrawal.

I order shit but I got 3 benzo rx's...helps me to stock them, I like to mix some of them, but there's no point in adding valium or lectopam (brand name for bromazepam up here) to f-lam or c-lam. F-lam with temazepam is out of this world amazing though. Especially when I'm at the point where listening to political podcasts (that present even more real reasons to find this repeat of 2004 of an American (s)election so ghastly it fucks with my head big time. When you're a Canadian and you would prefer Trump to the crazy, cross-eyed, drugged-up (likely on coke and benzos) with a more and more looking like he's dying Bill Clinton (it wouldn't be a third Bill term, the guy's dying).And all the DNC shenanigans...especially 2 days before Sanders quit the democratic party, he was roughed up, there's picture of this, on the last day of the convention, where he looked like he was gonna throw up surrounded by the Hitleries, sick to his stomach. That deal he made with her to try and get the most real Democrats (centre-left, left people, not red humanitarian hawks with a D on their name. Dick Durbin, I'm thinking of shits like you), was certainly over after his own secret service goons attacked him and that's why he had this gash on the right side of his cheek. He was either roughed up with punches or with a blunt weapon. There's the pic out there, it's very funny because the pic comes with the person who posted it on Facebook with her text under. And then it was scrubbed from all Bernie forums apparently, and I trust Ed Opperman on that. Yeah, anyway, it's a real upside down world when a Canadian, prefers Trump to be President. I have no say in it, but the guy isn't threatening all forms of life on the planet, hasn't called Putin "Hitler", I guess with all her emails, she didn't know that almost everyone by now know about Godwin's Law. Those FOIA caused by that hero of a investigative journalist Jason Leopold (despite his current neocon employer) caused emailgate, he's a fuckin FOIA machine. If she's President and just listens to all these neocons who are making a comeback, rebranding themselves and now are fine with Democrats, well, the cancer with the Democratic Party...If she thinks she can antagonize Russia without causing worldwide death of 99% of species on Earth, I'll be benzin' myself stupid for the next 2 years. Although, with the Sanders voters revolt, who decided not to even vote, some are going for Jill Stein (green party), but third parties can't win because of that stupid electoral college thing, which originally when it was made, made sense, there was one guy going on his horse in South Carolina up to Washington in all states when all communications were still by letter/courrier. It made sense then, it does not now. And those primaries are baloney, the open ones are great, the closed ones are anti-democracy.

Alright, the benzos got me rambling time for bed. While I put on Bad Religion - Slumber
 
I'll just remind people to be very very careful with this compound as it can very easily turn on you as it did me. Be very careful of your dose as even 100 mcg can be quite potent leading to a reduction in coordination, slurred speech, and judgement impairment that can very easily lead to one overestimation ones ability to handle a dose that can lead a blackout that ends up lasting multiple days due to the very long duration of effect this compound has while it also can literally reduce short term memory to the point one acts purely on impulse leading to a high likelihood of being influenced to compulsive redosing as this compound has a very highly likelihood of causing such desire.


Idiotic benzo intolerant and naive only having a very limited set of experiences with minor doses decided that it would help to have my first stockpile that was 76.mg to tackle Suboxone ct withdrawal. The plan was ct and keep myself knocked out dosing minimal amounts titerating 100 mcg only taking 500 mcg in a 12 hour period until I was ready to be without opiates. That lead to endingvup the morning after receiving it the day before in the afternoon blacking out without a single memory 4 days later where I became a complete monster as all my bottles up stress exploded after sucking what I thought was not much that I could manage after spilling it into my sheet. I was terrified as I woke up four days later having to spend the next two asking the people I know I'm my building what I did after realizing once I woke and found my room a mess with my dog missing (luckily at my parents thanks to a concerned neighbor) only after explaining myself because those I knew and caused problems for had chose to ignore me besides expressing strong feelings of anger and rejection with me until they realized I understood how foolish and stupid I was to attempt using benzos while deciding never to use benzos, liquor, or anything really to just mask physical issues hopes to improve my will to live without taking the concern of how they affect ones thoughts and behavior by denying the possibility o understood of being so detrimental it makes things worse than having nothing. Luckily they forgave me as I've never experienced that kind of situation before in my life.

Again I recommend everyone who decides to use such powerful benzos even if tolerant to think twice and take the necessity of responsible moderation seriously before they regret it as I do.
 
Aha Jesus I understand what you're saying about having less on hand leading to less potential for abuse. It also really depends on the situation and your own head. I personally didn't order 10,000 hits of clonazolam for personal consumption, and I could see how if someone was using it to medicate for some self diagnosed problem of theirs, how having a variety and less product could be good. I just can never justify buying 100 hits when 10k only cost like 400 usd
 
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