Classical music and psychedelics

[ParappaTheRapper]

If you were 300 years old mily cyrus would be classical. Think about it. Doo doo dod doo dodo (twilight zone) %)

 

[webbykevin]

If you were 300 years old mily cyrus would be classical. Think about it. Doo doo dod doo dodo (twilight zone) %)

I don't care if someone is 3000 years old, mily cyrus will still be shit.

 

[ParappaTheRapper]

hahahahah^ true

 

[lamanogaucha]

Well, at least she smoked salvia, so she can't be that bad...

But seriously, classical music is alive and well, and no, one does not need to be 300 years old. Many important and a few outright great composers are writing as we speak. Some of them are already part of the standard repertory, even.

 

[kidklmx]

External sounds is exactly why headphones are great for psychedelics, the noise cancellation makes it some form of sensory depravation. Close your eyes and you're somewhere else.

 

[dextrorfan]

Try listening to classical guitar, like youtube David Russel guitar. That's always been a favorite of mine, and it's super under-rated.

 

[Visuals]

Peter Sculthorpe. Hard to find, but very good. Really atmospheric and emotional. His works feel like nature to me

 

[Solipsis]

Cheers on the Max Richter suggestion, the Four Seasons recomposition was just perfect when I was cleaning and tidying up yesterday in anticipation of a MiPT comeup. Thanks.

 

[johannes kreisler]

Try listening to classical guitar

or play your own! the sound, feeling, even smell of the instrument blend together with your creativity and vice versa. done(/dosed ) right all your senses become pretty much one. ime 1 trip spent with your guitar can equal months of practice...

 

[captaintom]

I enjoy a bit of bach but my main musical psychedelic squeeze is indonesian gamelan music, that shit is intense!

 

[Solipsis]

The only Indonesian music I know is gendang pencha and you couldn't pay me good money to listen to that in a trip!

 

[captaintom]

The only Indonesian music I know is gendang pencha and you couldn't pay me good money to listen to that in a trip!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hox32Yzdp2k
i'll admit it's an acquired taste

 

[johannes kreisler]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxDc24zSuzU

 

[kidklmx]

John Cage does some good things: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NR0zVdjYXcw

This thread is giving me some incentive to dive deep into this world.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxDc24zSuzU

The guy looks like as if he enjoyed a few mushrooms himself back in the day:

 

[Solipsis]

Isn't that Arvo Pärt?

About John Cage I wondered: if someone is silent for 4 minutes and 33 seconds, is he plagiarizing Cage?

 

[kidklmx]

Yeah that is Arvo Pärt, which is the person I was referring to. (could've double posted to make it a bit clearer, but then I'd be getting the rage of a thousand moderators)

4'33" is an amazing piece when you're out in the woods in springtime

 

[electrodevo]

sibelius on dmt felt like the different layers of melody and instruments and tones and rhythms were just ripping out different parts of my ego to throw them around...plain chaos.

That's the problem, my favorite classical pieces tend to be the rather complex / deep late Romantic era stuff, and I'm not sure as a result they are quite as "trip friendly"... the huge amount of layers might confuse. Mahler's Symphony 2 is damn deep enough without anything for instance. Even less known favorites of mine like Vaughan Williams' Dona Nobis Pacem gets heavy on layers at times.

Perhaps simpler yet equally powerful stuff might work for trips, like the Tallis Fantasia from the aforementioned Vaughan Williams... or heck, some of the Renaissance polyphonic chants of Thomas Tallis and others themselves...

 

[lamanogaucha]

Here are some YT links to the pieces I had mentioned earlier. The CD's sound much better, of course, but these are pretty good for those that want to explore a bit!

* Berg: Piano Sonata, Op. 1 [Gould] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNk_A4ZoI30

* Debussy: La Mer [Abbado/Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_r-jvUKgys

* Ives: Symphony No. 4 [Thomas/Chicago Symphony Orchestra and Chorus] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO6YMHH-GrM

* Leifs: Hekla, Op. 52 [Shao/Iceland Symphony Orchestra/Schola Cantorum] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KwmwKgvbbo

* Ligeti: San Francisco Polyphony [Howarth/Swedish Radio Symphony Orchestra] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_rHRJ-btEg

* Prokofiev: Symphony No. 3 in C minor, Op. 44 [Jurowski/London Philharmonic Orchestra] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb-Za03C1xI

* Schoenberg: Verklarte Nacht, Op. 4 [Hollywood String Quartet, et al.; with score] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqODySSxYpc

* Varese: Arcana [Boulez/New York Philharmonic Orchestra; with score] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhLNxv_ltW8

One more, for fun:

* Machaut: Mass of Notre Dame [Ensemble Gilles Binchois] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwV_qLLPAGc

In order to render the Mass complete (as intended to be heard in church), this performance includes the anonymous (and much earlier) monophonic chants and responsorials. The polyphonic sections are Machaut.

 

[cpuller]

Great thread, its hard to find the classical music you like when you are uneducated about it like me.
Music that doesnt get on my nerves is hard to find anyways.

 

[lastest]

The songs on Kind of Blue by Miles Davis are just as beautiful, intellectually and emotionally, as any classical music I've ever heard. Not that I'm an expert on either genre, but the first time I heard 'Blue in Green' and 'Flamenco Sketches' while tripping (mushrooms) I realised music+drugs couldn't get much better than that, and down the years that's remained true for me.

I would really like to get into classical music more though, while tripping or sober, but where to start? I'll check out some of the suggestions in this thread for sure.